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What do you consider rape? What are your views
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Rape is…I cannot explain what an awful, awful thing it is. Nobody should go through it…I mean Nobody! What do you consider rape? If a sober guy has sex with a drunken girl or a passed out lady, is that considered rape? If a man manipulates/blackmails/tricks a girl or man into having sex, is that rape? Likewise if a woman blackmailed and tricked a guy into having sex, would you consider that rape? I understand there is a bit of double standards when talking about girls raping guys, but it is not as uncommon as you may think.
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#19100541 - 11/07/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Any time someone is engaged in a sex act without saying the word "yes".
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
#19100550 - 11/07/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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NWlight said: Any time someone is engaged in a sex act without saying the word "yes".
What if they are blink and deaf and mute?
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: 245willow19]
#19100552 - 11/07/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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When they start gesturing wildly at their exposed genitals and humping the air and touching themselves I'd say it's fair game
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
#19100559 - 11/07/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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NWlight said: Any time someone is engaged in a sex act without saying the word "yes".
Sometimes "no" means "yes".
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: qman]
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: akira_akuma]
#19100575 - 11/07/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's not rape if you yell surprise
... someone had to say it
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: qman]
#19100576 - 11/07/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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When they start gesturing wildly at their exposed genitals and humping the air and touching themselves I'd say it's fair game
That would make some awesome porn geographical animal channel vids...deaf, blind people in their home enviroment frustratingly trying to lure a mate by performing a ritual dance before being laid and pumped
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: 245willow19]
#19100584 - 11/07/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Esekon Kelly said: Rape is…I cannot explain what an awful, awful thing it is. Nobody should go through it…I mean Nobody! What do you consider rape? If a sober guy has sex with a drunken girl or a passed out lady, is that considered rape? If a man manipulates/blackmails/tricks a girl or man into having sex, is that rape? Likewise if a woman blackmailed and tricked a guy into having sex, would you consider that rape? I understand there is a bit of double standards when talking about girls raping guys, but it is not as uncommon as you may think.
Passed out girl, yes. The rest of them no, though a lot of that is unethical.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: luvdemboomers]
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Esekon Kelly said: Rape is…I cannot explain what an awful, awful thing it is. Nobody should go through it…I mean Nobody! What do you consider rape? If a sober guy has sex with a drunken girl or a passed out lady, is that considered rape? If a man manipulates/blackmails/tricks a girl or man into having sex, is that rape? Likewise if a woman blackmailed and tricked a guy into having sex, would you consider that rape? I understand there is a bit of double standards when talking about girls raping guys, but it is not as uncommon as you may think.
Passed out girl, yes. The rest of them no, though a lot of that is unethical.
Having sex under duress or threat = rape.
Whether you are under threat via physical violence or your career being ruined, etc.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: luvdemboomers]
#19100605 - 11/07/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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luvdemboomers said: It's not rape if you yell surprise
That's only in Canada
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
#19100619 - 11/07/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Esekon Kelly said: Rape is…I cannot explain what an awful, awful thing it is. Nobody should go through it…I mean Nobody! What do you consider rape? If a sober guy has sex with a drunken girl or a passed out lady, is that considered rape? If a man manipulates/blackmails/tricks a girl or man into having sex, is that rape? Likewise if a woman blackmailed and tricked a guy into having sex, would you consider that rape? I understand there is a bit of double standards when talking about girls raping guys, but it is not as uncommon as you may think.
Passed out girl, yes. The rest of them no, though a lot of that is unethical.
Having sex under duress or threat = rape.
Whether you are under threat via physical violence or your career being ruined, etc.
I disagree. It's shady as fuck and unethical but not rape.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: luvdemboomers]
#19100639 - 11/07/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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whether a girl lets you put your dick in her because she's scared you will hurt her or because she's scared you will reveal her darkest secret and ruin her life, either way she doesn't want to be there.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: luvdemboomers]
#19100646 - 11/07/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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One a related note my gf at the time and I got really fucked up one night on booze/pills and ended up having sex. In the morning she said she didn't remember it but didn't care since she obviously wanted it at the time. Fast forward a few weeks and we broke up. During one of our more heated arguments after we had broken up she threatened to submit a police report saying I drugged and raped her the night we got fucked up. I was in such disbelief I didn't even know how to respond. Luckily we stopped talking and I've cut off contact with her since then.. The fact that she could possibly have sent me to prison over mutual sex just because she was mad at me is insane..
To answer your question, the courts are so one-sided against males when it comes to rape that I wouldn't even consider bringing a drunk girl home.
That is seriously fucked up, dude. Your life could have been ruined if she went through with it but thankfully she didn't...and another note, keep away from crazy bitches
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: Greendreams]
#19100648 - 11/07/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Greendreams said: One a related note my gf at the time and I got really fucked up one night on booze/pills and ended up having sex. In the morning she said she didn't remember it but didn't care since she obviously wanted it at the time. Fast forward a few weeks and we broke up. During one of our more heated arguments after we had broken up she threatened to submit a police report saying I drugged and raped her the night we got fucked up. I was in such disbelief I didn't even know how to respond. Luckily we stopped talking and I've cut off contact with her since then.. The fact that she could possibly have sent me to prison over mutual sex just because she was mad at me is insane..
To answer your question, the courts are so one-sided against males when it comes to rape that I wouldn't even consider bringing a drunk girl home.
Women have been taught that regrettable consensual sex is rape, it's not, but men still suffer lots of stress and harassment from their false allegations.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: 245willow19]
#19100653 - 11/07/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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whether a girl lets you put your dick in her because she's scared you will hurt her or because she's scared you will reveal her darkest secret and ruin her life, either way she doesn't want to be there.
What happens if it is the other way around? I've heard of girls raping (if you could call it that) guys by drugging them and sticking things up their...butt and other biazzre shit.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: 245willow19]
#19100656 - 11/07/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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in my mind its along the line of, anytime someone doesnt show expressive interest in consenting.. i think its tricky to use words like 'yes' and 'no' because they are after all, just words.
blackmail is exploiting someones consent, not rape.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: 245willow19]
#19100660 - 11/07/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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whether a girl lets you put your dick in her because she's scared you will hurt her or because she's scared you will reveal her darkest secret and ruin her life, either way she doesn't want to be there.
What happens if it is the other way around? I've heard of girls raping (if you could call it that) guys by drugging them and sticking things up their...butt and other biazzre shit.
I said girl because thats more typical.
but it is the exact same whether it's a man or a woman
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
#19100668 - 11/07/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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NWlight said: whether a girl lets you put your dick in her because she's scared you will hurt her or because she's scared you will reveal her darkest secret and ruin her life, either way she doesn't want to be there.
Having consensual sex on the misguided premise that someone MIGHT reveal a secret is NOT rape.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: qman]
#19100674 - 11/07/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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NWlight said: whether a girl lets you put your dick in her because she's scared you will hurt her or because she's scared you will reveal her darkest secret and ruin her life, either way she doesn't want to be there.
Having consensual sex on the misguided premise that someone MIGHT reveal a secret is NOT rape.
It's called extortion and it instills fear in the victim, the same way a threat of violence would.
In both situations they do not want to be having sex
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
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I said girl because thats more typical.
but it is the exact same whether it's a man or a woman
I'll try and dig up some articles of girls cutting off guy's penises because they didn't want sex or girls basically doing some kind of fucked up shit to some poor hefty guy with a meaty weapon tied to a tumbling rock about to roll off the edge of a ledge. Also I find it weird the way some guys enjoy 'rape porn' .
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: 245willow19]
#19100691 - 11/07/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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rape fantasy is also one of the most common for women.
I read somewhere than around 50% have that fantasy.
it doesn't mean they actually want it to happen. Just like I might watch some nasty porn doesn't mean I actually want to do it in real life
Go ahead and find those articles about women cutting off male genitalia, I fail to see why there is a double standard in that situation. The woman probably went to jail for a long time after they were charged
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: 245willow19]
#19100704 - 11/07/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rape is any sex (regardless of the genders involved) that is non-consensual, coerced, forced, or otherwise any sex where someone does not, in a clear st8 of mind, say "Yes please have sex with me."
Rapists are scum
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: 245willow19]
#19100707 - 11/07/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Some women enjoy rape porn and rape role play, as well. Is that weird to you too, or do you just hold a double standard as part of your "good guy" schtick? Are you offended by unusual sexual predilections? More importantly, why? Should we all be puritanical in our sex lives?
PS: playing good guy isn't going to get you any pussy, pal. This whole pseudo-chivalrous garbage doesn't work.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
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NWlight said: whether a girl lets you put your dick in her because she's scared you will hurt her or because she's scared you will reveal her darkest secret and ruin her life, either way she doesn't want to be there.
Having consensual sex on the misguided premise that someone MIGHT reveal a secret is NOT rape.
It's called extortion and it instills fear in the victim, the same way a threat of violence would.
In both situations they do not want to be having sex
The burden of proof in the court of law for rape in those circumstances is beyond high, voluntarily engaging in sex and then claiming it was based on extortion is a hard sell, "not wanting to be having sex" and willingly engaging in sex is not rape.
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Some women enjoy rape porn and rape role play, as well. Is that weird to you too, or do you just hold a double standard as part of your "good guy" schtick? Are you offended by unusual sexual predilections? More importantly, why? Should we all be puritanical in our sex lives?
What do you mean good guy schtick? Do you think I am pretending to be good in order to look like I have morals...dude you are too judgemental towards me. You think I am some rapey, scumbag, drug fiend, loser, crackhead, white trash, rag head, hillbilly, closeted homosexual who has formed a fake life for himself in order to escape slanderous attacks. Come back later when you've cooled down. I don't want an agruement here.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: 245willow19]
#19100742 - 11/07/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You are most of those things by your own admission, but above all, you are a troll.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: qman]
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qman said:
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qman said:
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NWlight said: whether a girl lets you put your dick in her because she's scared you will hurt her or because she's scared you will reveal her darkest secret and ruin her life, either way she doesn't want to be there.
Having consensual sex on the misguided premise that someone MIGHT reveal a secret is NOT rape.
It's called extortion and it instills fear in the victim, the same way a threat of violence would.
In both situations they do not want to be having sex
The burden of proof in the court of law for rape in those circumstances is beyond high, voluntarily engaging in sex and then claiming it was based on extortion is a hard sell, "not wanting to be having sex" and willingly engaging in sex is not rape.
The issue was not whether you can later claim it was extortion and go to court.
The issue was not even about whether or not it is easy or difficult to prove.
We were discussing whether blackmailing someone into having sex with you was rape, which it is.
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sVs said: You are most of those things by your own admission, but above all, you are a troll.
wow, nailed it. did... did this guy just tell us all how he is a rapey, scumbag, drug fiend, loser, crackhead, white trash, rag head, hillbilly, closeted homosexual?
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
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You are most of those things by your own admission, but above all, you are a troll.
What the fuck are you then? The Mahdi  . End of discussion. You're more of a troll than I could ever think of becoming...
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wow, nailed it. did... did this guy just tell us all how he is a rapey, scumbag, drug fiend, loser, crackhead, white trash, rag head, hillbilly, closeted homosexual?
It's all true...I am a dirtyu homophobic rag head son of a bitch jk Dude...let us get back onto topic, please
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The "I know you are but what am I" defense. A timeless classic.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: qman]
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NWlight said: Any time someone is engaged in a sex act without saying the word "yes".
Sometimes "no" means "yes". 
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: zappaisgod]
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lol that story is burned into my memory as well.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
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NWlight said: rape fantasy is also one of the most common for women.
I read somewhere than around 50% have that fantasy.
it doesn't mean they actually want it to happen. Just like I might watch some nasty porn doesn't mean I actually want to do it in real life
Go ahead and find those articles about women cutting off male genitalia, I fail to see why there is a double standard in that situation. The woman probably went to jail for a long time after they were charged
They did get in legal trouble, but then a bunch of women at a table on a tv show talked about it and their response was laughter, the reverse would not happen =double standard.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: Vriska Serket]
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Vriska Serket said: no never means yes you piece of shit
Sometimes it does, but that is a very specific subtext of sex.
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Vriska Serket said: no never means yes you piece of shit
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NotTheDevil]
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NWlight said: rape fantasy is also one of the most common for women.
I read somewhere than around 50% have that fantasy.
it doesn't mean they actually want it to happen. Just like I might watch some nasty porn doesn't mean I actually want to do it in real life
Go ahead and find those articles about women cutting off male genitalia, I fail to see why there is a double standard in that situation. The woman probably went to jail for a long time after they were charged
They did get in legal trouble, but then a bunch of women at a table on a tv show talked about it and their response was laughter, the reverse would not happen =double standard.
That's fucked up a man having his manhood chopped off isn't funny at all. The same goes for women who have their nipples removed or clit cut up or a gun...nevermind
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: qman]
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NWlight said: Any time someone is engaged in a sex act without saying the word "yes".
Sometimes "no" means "yes". 
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: Vriska Serket]
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Careful who you re: to in your posts, now.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
#19100892 - 11/07/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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NWlight said: whether a girl lets you put your dick in her because she's scared you will hurt her or because she's scared you will reveal her darkest secret and ruin her life, either way she doesn't want to be there.
Having consensual sex on the misguided premise that someone MIGHT reveal a secret is NOT rape.
It's called extortion and it instills fear in the victim, the same way a threat of violence would.
In both situations they do not want to be having sex
The burden of proof in the court of law for rape in those circumstances is beyond high, voluntarily engaging in sex and then claiming it was based on extortion is a hard sell, "not wanting to be having sex" and willingly engaging in sex is not rape.
The issue was not whether you can later claim it was extortion and go to court.
The issue was not even about whether or not it is easy or difficult to prove.
We were discussing whether blackmailing someone into having sex with you was rape, which it is.
You twisted the argument quite a bit there
A gay man can try to extort me into having him fuck me in the ass, I would never let him do it, if I did, it wouldn't be rape, that would be a choice I made.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: 245willow19]
#19100893 - 11/07/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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NWlight said: rape fantasy is also one of the most common for women.
I read somewhere than around 50% have that fantasy.
it doesn't mean they actually want it to happen. Just like I might watch some nasty porn doesn't mean I actually want to do it in real life
Go ahead and find those articles about women cutting off male genitalia, I fail to see why there is a double standard in that situation. The woman probably went to jail for a long time after they were charged
They did get in legal trouble, but then a bunch of women at a table on a tv show talked about it and their response was laughter, the reverse would not happen =double standard.
That's fucked up a man having his manhood chopped off isn't funny at all. The same goes for women who have their nipples removed or clit cut up or a gun...nevermind
She also put it in a garbage disposal so it couldn't be reattached.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: mellowparty]
#19100894 - 11/07/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Been there done that.
Hey, baby. Wanna hook up?

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She also put it in a garbage disposal so it couldn't be reattached.
Ugh...wait...what? Are you serious? Sources? Man I can't believe this shit...she must be an evil bitch...fucking witch...burn her 
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: 245willow19] 1
#19100902 - 11/07/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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something super extreme
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: Vriska Serket] 2
#19100910 - 11/07/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Vriska Serket said: i told yer mum to settle down after i systematically oppressed her last night m8
Good one, m8. Were you raped or something? You can't seem to have a level-headed conversation about the subject. Try not to let your personal weaknesses or shortcomings cloud your thoughts in the future.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: qman]
#19100917 - 11/07/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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NWlight said: whether a girl lets you put your dick in her because she's scared you will hurt her or because she's scared you will reveal her darkest secret and ruin her life, either way she doesn't want to be there.
Having consensual sex on the misguided premise that someone MIGHT reveal a secret is NOT rape.
It's called extortion and it instills fear in the victim, the same way a threat of violence would.
In both situations they do not want to be having sex
The burden of proof in the court of law for rape in those circumstances is beyond high, voluntarily engaging in sex and then claiming it was based on extortion is a hard sell, "not wanting to be having sex" and willingly engaging in sex is not rape.
The issue was not whether you can later claim it was extortion and go to court.
The issue was not even about whether or not it is easy or difficult to prove.
We were discussing whether blackmailing someone into having sex with you was rape, which it is.
You twisted the argument quite a bit there
A gay man can try to extort me into having him fuck me in the ass, I would never let him do it, if I did, it wouldn't be rape, that would be a choice I made.
dude, no. If a gay man found out that you stole from a company and threatened to tell your boss that is blackmail and if he asked you to have sex with him in order to not say anything that is Extortion
extortion instills fear of consequences to gain services = rape
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: mellowparty]
#19100922 - 11/07/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dude I would destroy your asshole and gape it wide like an open door...GTFO! You are my BITCH!! No man can rape me...I am...unrapable
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: 245willow19]
#19100931 - 11/07/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thats what she said
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: 245willow19]
#19100952 - 11/07/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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NWlight said: whether a girl lets you put your dick in her because she's scared you will hurt her or because she's scared you will reveal her darkest secret and ruin her life, either way she doesn't want to be there.
Having consensual sex on the misguided premise that someone MIGHT reveal a secret is NOT rape.
It's called extortion and it instills fear in the victim, the same way a threat of violence would.
In both situations they do not want to be having sex
The burden of proof in the court of law for rape in those circumstances is beyond high, voluntarily engaging in sex and then claiming it was based on extortion is a hard sell, "not wanting to be having sex" and willingly engaging in sex is not rape.
The issue was not whether you can later claim it was extortion and go to court.
The issue was not even about whether or not it is easy or difficult to prove.
We were discussing whether blackmailing someone into having sex with you was rape, which it is.
You twisted the argument quite a bit there
A gay man can try to extort me into having him fuck me in the ass, I would never let him do it, if I did, it wouldn't be rape, that would be a choice I made.
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Been there done that.
Hey, baby. Wanna hook up?

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She also put it in a garbage disposal so it couldn't be reattached.
Ugh...wait...what? Are you serious? Sources? Man I can't believe this shit...she must be an evil bitch...fucking witch...burn her 
I think this is the right one, but I don't have sound
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
#19100965 - 11/07/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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sorry I fucked that up m8
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nah I wasn't raped I just don't really have to energy to argue so I figured I might as well just 8e a moron a8out it 8ecause that's how the internet works.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: Vriska Serket] 2
#19100984 - 11/07/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NotTheDevil] 1
#19100990 - 11/07/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You and me tonight, white boy. Prepare your asshole cause it's about to become a cumdumbster for me and my hefty homies, dawg. Word on the street says your asshole is the tightest
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Hey, baby. Wanna hook up?

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Ugh...wait...what? Are you serious? Sources? Man I can't believe this shit...she must be an evil bitch...fucking witch...burn her 
I think this is the right one, but I don't have sound
Fuck that dude...I am going back to fucking green alien bitches from mars...fuck humans!
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: mellowparty]
#19100991 - 11/07/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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>moyes
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: qman] 2
#19101021 - 11/07/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Greendreams said: One a related note my gf at the time and I got really fucked up one night on booze/pills and ended up having sex. In the morning she said she didn't remember it but didn't care since she obviously wanted it at the time. Fast forward a few weeks and we broke up. During one of our more heated arguments after we had broken up she threatened to submit a police report saying I drugged and raped her the night we got fucked up. I was in such disbelief I didn't even know how to respond. Luckily we stopped talking and I've cut off contact with her since then.. The fact that she could possibly have sent me to prison over mutual sex just because she was mad at me is insane..
To answer your question, the courts are so one-sided against males when it comes to rape that I wouldn't even consider bringing a drunk girl home.
Feminist have taught women that regrettable consensual sex is rape, it's not, but men still suffer lots of stress and harassment from their false allegations.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
#19101398 - 11/07/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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NWlight said: Any time someone is engaged in a sex act without saying the word "yes".
WOW.
I've raped my wife hundreds of times then. I don't remember the last time either of us asked for consent and was given a "yes."
Me: Dear, might we engage in intercourse this evening? Her: sure. Me: As you know, I need a "yes" in order for it not to be rape. Her: I'm fine with it. I want to have sex. Me: That's not a "yes." I need a literal, "yes." Her: Nevermind then...you killed the mood.
I think your statement is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen come out of an adult brain.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: Enlil] 2
#19101402 - 11/07/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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NWlight said: Any time someone is engaged in a sex act without saying the word "yes".
WOW.
I've raped my wife hundreds of times then. I don't remember the last time either of us asked for consent and was given a "yes."
Me: Dear, might we engage in intercourse this evening? Her: sure. Me: As you know, I need a "yes" in order for it not to be rape. Her: I'm fine with it. I want to have sex. Me: That's not a "yes." I need a literal, "yes." Her: Nevermind then...you killed the mood.
I think your statement is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen come out of an adult brain.
You take his words too literally.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: mellowparty] 1
#19101561 - 11/07/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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he's a lawyer they go to school to learn how to split hairs bro.
the problem is occasionally their services come in handy
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I have missed you so much.
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mellowparty
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
#19108563 - 11/09/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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NWlight said: he's a lawyer they go to school to learn how to split hairs bro.
the problem is occasionally their services come in handy 
Yes lol, this happened to me once. Like I said one thing and the guy accusing me of shit twisted my words towards something that was so far out of reality I laughed out loud (wasn't a very smart move on my part tho )
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