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Re: Ulbricht pleads not guilty to Silk Road Charges [Re: Enlil]
    #19149408 - 11/17/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

were detracting a little from the point here. in the top-right corner of the indictments you can see specifically the charges. Maryland indictment is as follows

new york charges which are the ones he is currently going to court for:



the new york charges dont mention murder. those are specifically large-scale drug charges, computer hacking, and money laundering through use of the computer.


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Re: Ulbricht pleads not guilty to Silk Road Charges [Re: Enlil]
    #19150013 - 11/17/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Apparently you have not done proper research. He is also being chagred with attempted witness murder, and use of interstate commerce facilities in comission of murder-for-hire




That's certainly not part of the federal case.  He might be charged separately in a state court for attempted murder, but I know nothing about that.





While it is in a different state, it is still in a federal court. This dude is going away for a loooooong time


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Re: Ulbricht pleads not guilty to Silk Road Charges [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19150564 - 11/17/13 04:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't realize there was a second indictment.  In any case, he's still innocent until proven guilty.  No evidence has been presented, and we don't know what will actually end up happening should this go to trial.

I wouldn't be surprised if he pled to a single charge and did 5 years or less.


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Re: Ulbricht pleads not guilty to Silk Road Charges [Re: Enlil]
    #19156494 - 11/18/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Really?  Obviously you have a lot more experience in this, but this is the sort of get the feds jizz theirselves over for ages...I can't imagine they'd be happy with anything less than a couple decades in jail.  The prosecution does have a lot of work to do explaining exactly how the crime worked, but it's also just as hard explaining why he didn't commit a crime, and we all know that the benefit of the doubt, regardless of what the law says, goes out the window the minute the jury hears about the poor children and the oodles of crack and heroin this guy helped send out...


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Re: Ulbricht pleads not guilty to Silk Road Charges [Re: sonamdrukpa] * 1
    #19156521 - 11/18/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's very early to be counting chickens, though.  The feds might only have a solid case for one charge.  It is very common to overcharge in these cases, and most likely the prosecutor has done so for the purpose of negotiating back to a position that he/she thinks is fair based on the strength of the case.

I wouldn't be surprised if he got life in prison, either.

It's way too early to be calling the outcome.


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Re: Ulbricht pleads not guilty to Silk Road Charges [Re: Enlil]
    #19156538 - 11/18/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Fair enough.


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