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Do rich people get sour fruit?
Or do they get the same publix fruit we all get? Just curious.
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Rich people shop at whole foods which never has any impurities in there fruit or vegetables. In fact you can easily judge someones socioeconomic status based solely on the grocery stores they go to and the way they walk.
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Oh I didn't know that wow.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: dark3st]
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We just get the scraps
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Rich people don't have money for food because they spend it all on fancy cars and high class hookers.
But seriously, I've had plenty of filthy rich friends in my lifetime, and you would think they just never ate because most of them never had more than a box of wheat thins, eggs, milk, and a shit load of Gatorade stocked. Turns out they have the privalidge of going out to eat every fucking night.
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A lonely and sad neckbeard of an admin had to bolster his personal inadequacies with a brash and excessive display of the only form of power he will ever have. All at 30 days of my expense. You can only feel bad for the guy.
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BORING.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: dark3st]
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dark3st said: Do rich people get sour fruit?
Or do they get the same publix fruit we all get? Just curious.
It depends who they are really. Some people just get fruits anywhere, more health consious people might go with the all natural, no pesticides, non gmo route at natural food stores which can be a little more expensive.
One store near here sells lemons for around a dollar each I think that are naturally grown.
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I guess I mean do people who live in super rich places (Malibu) have better publix/targets/Walmart etc.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: dark3st]
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They have better grocery stores IMO but also more expensive
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we get fruit baskets, and delivery.......... geez.
you guys are thinking of the middle class.
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All I know is that once you get rich, your laugh changes to this:
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skatealex2 said:
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dark3st said: Do rich people get sour fruit?
Or do they get the same publix fruit we all get? Just curious.
It depends who they are really. Some people just get fruits anywhere, more health consious people might go with the all natural, no pesticides, non gmo route at natural food stores which can be a little more expensive.
One store near here sells lemons for around a dollar each I think that are naturally grown.
As opposed to unnaturally grown lemons?
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why the hell would anyone with $ shop for food?
seriously, the rich CANT shop for food. they dont recognize the things you guys eat.
trust me on this. when i was 22 i got sent into a real supermarket for for a BBQ. i had to ask where the meat was.
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Gilgamesh18 said: Rich people shop at whole foods which never has any impurities in there fruit or vegetables. In fact you can easily judge someones socioeconomic status based solely on the grocery stores they go to and the way they walk.
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skatealex2 said:
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dark3st said: Do rich people get sour fruit?
Or do they get the same publix fruit we all get? Just curious.
It depends who they are really. Some people just get fruits anywhere, more health consious people might go with the all natural, no pesticides, non gmo route at natural food stores which can be a little more expensive.
One store near here sells lemons for around a dollar each I think that are naturally grown.
As opposed to unnaturally grown lemons?
Don't troll my God damned thread.
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anne halonium said: why the hell would anyone with $ shop for food?
seriously, the rich CANT shop for food. they dont recognize the things you guys eat.
trust me on this. when i was 22 i got sent into a real supermarket for for a BBQ. i had to ask where the meat was.
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in syracuse and rochester ny, the upper class (doctors, lawyers, etc.) shop at a grocery chain called wegmans. there are walmarts and price choppers and grocery depots, but that's where the poor irish, black and latino people shop.
i used to live in NYC, and like one of the guys above me said, if you have money and live in NYC you usually have like, soda and chips at your crib and then eat out every day. there are places like whole foods and trader joe's that are like, organic grocery stores but there are glorified corner stores with over priced spaghetti n stuff (IMO). actually it's really easy to get by eating out every day in NYC, because there are SO MANY RESTAURANTS that you can always find a cheap place or mexican corner store to buy stuff at. the BITCH thing about NYC is that it's hard to find a grocery store that sells EVERYTHING (like food, vitamins, medicine, whey protein, glasses, etc,). you gotta live in the suburbs if that's what u want. the REALLY rich people that WORK in NYC usually live in new jersey or long island. in these cases, the people prolly buy food at high end grocery stores (like in rochester ny).
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Re: do rich people... [Re: stimpson]
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middle class shops at whole foods........... serious money, its all delivery. most money your gonna see at whole foods is someones maid getting almond milk.
the serious peeps , get everything shipped or delivered in stryo coolers, and dry ice , and the maids lug the stuff in from service entrance.
going for groceries, is like asking to get kidnapped or something. and besides, they dont have valet.
seriously.
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Both of you very insightful! I appreciate the non trolling seriousness.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: dark3st]
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dark3st said: I guess I mean do people who live in super rich places (Malibu) have better publix/targets/Walmart etc.
Maybe some do and charge more or have a nicer store layout if people are buying more stuff there... I feel like it would likely be similar though...
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you guys are confusing middle class millionaires with real money.
this is like asking wich airline has best first class seating. none of em do.
hence , the advent of the lear jet.
its the same with food. whole foods is where real money , sends the butler in the range rover, for emergency t bones for the yorkies.
and yes, the cook heats them in the convection oven for them.
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haha what the fuck are "groceries"?
you guys cook for yourselves? 
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Re: do rich people... [Re: NWlight]
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you guys cook for yourselves? 
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lol .....real money, the maids dont even know how to cook, or speak french , so they cant even talk to the cook.
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I get lost every time I try to find the kitchen, I gave up years ago
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Re: do rich people... [Re: NWlight]
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NWlight said: I get lost every time I try to find the kitchen, I gave up years ago
also, cook? singular? haha you poor piece of crap
i used to breeze thru it on the way to the hot tubs or tennis court. how many cooks do ya need? they have assistants.
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I guess I'd be OK with only one chef (per family member of course), but you've gotta have at least a few cooks. And of course those cooks have assistants.
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#19101733 - 11/07/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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NWlight said: I guess I'd be OK with only one chef (per family member of course), but you've gotta have at least a few cooks. And of course those cooks have assistants.
get on my level
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Re: do rich people... [Re: stimpson]
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i used to live in NYC, and like one of the guys above me said, if you have money and live in NYC you usually have like, soda and chips at your crib and then eat out every day. there are places like whole foods and trader joe's that are like, organic grocery stores but there are glorified corner stores with over priced spaghetti n stuff (IMO). actually it's really easy to get by eating out every day in NYC, because there are SO MANY RESTAURANTS that you can always find a cheap place or mexican corner store to buy stuff at. the BITCH thing about NYC is that it's hard to find a grocery store that sells EVERYTHING (like food, vitamins, medicine, whey protein, glasses, etc,). you gotta live in the suburbs if that's what u want. the REALLY rich people that WORK in NYC usually live in new jersey or long island. in these cases, the people prolly buy food at high end grocery stores (like in rochester ny).
You used to live there? Whole Foods is for nutlogs but Trader Joes is quite reasonable. Further there is Fairway and D'Agostinos and local fruit and vegetable stands and butchers all usually within anybody's walking distance. Then there is the typical NYC apartment which has a kitchen the size of a postage stamp. Finally the really rich do not move to LI and NJ. They move to Westchester and Connecticut.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: NWlight]
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I often laugh when I see people making fun of rich people, and criticizing them; Often times I see people who are poor/not rich that do this. I think it's a huge case of jealously, and envy.
Not all rich people are scumbags, except people like the OP act as if every single mother fuckin' rich person out there is a total scum bag. They aren't, there are plenty of scum bag rich people, just like there are plenty of scum bag poor people.
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thedeadwalkk said: I often laugh when I see people making fun of rich people, and criticizing them; Often times I see people who are poor/not rich that do this. I think it's a huge case of jealously, and envy.
Not all rich people are scumbags, except people like the OP act as if every single mother fuckin' rich person out there is a total scum bag. They aren't, there are plenty of scum bag rich people, just like there are plenty of scum bag poor people.
False all rich people are morally perfect. otherwise they wouldn't be rich.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: NWlight]
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Re: do rich people... [Re: NWlight]
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For the vast majority of people getting food is all about getting it locally. I trust my neighbor a lot more than some vendor selling high price products to yuppies
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_22485.cfm
The only way the rich are getting their hands on the good shit is if they go find the locals themselves. Probably the best perk of rural life
Urban areas won't get cheap produce until they grow it close to home.
edit - well i guess the ultra rich are gonna get fed the good shit no matter what if they care to.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: Juicin]
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Juicin said: i guess the ultra rich are gonna get fed the good shit no matter what if they care to.
we do care to.
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Juicin said: I trust my neighbor a lot more than some vendor selling high price products
how do you trust your neighbor's food if he isn't rich? 
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Re: do rich people... [Re: Juicin]
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The only way the rich are getting their hands on the good shit is if they go find the locals themselves.
locals dont have bluefin, beluga, blood oranges, saffron, or good wines and cheese for starters.
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Juicin said:
The only way the rich are getting their hands on the good shit is if they go find the locals themselves.
locals dont have bluefin, beluga, blood oranges, saffron, or good wines and cheese for starters.
When i say "good shit" i'm talking about the health factors. Not taste or scarcity of the food
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Re: do rich people... [Re: Juicin]
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what is to stop me from hiring someone to travel to your shitty little "rural" town and buying groceries there?
I think I hired someone to do that....
man I don't even know how my food gets to my house.
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NWlight said: what is to stop me from hiring someone to travel to your shitty little "rural" town and buying groceries there?
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When i say "good shit" i'm talking about the health factors. Not taste or scarcity of the food
i would die without those things. and, english chocolites.
and ,perrier water, or fuji waters, doesnt just grow in bottles ya know.
were talking basic shoe closet fridge middle of the night wake up after 1/2 grams of dabs munchie medical NEED here......
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Re: do rich people... [Re: deadwk]
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thedeadwalkk said: I often laugh when I see people making fun of rich people, and criticizing them; Often times I see people who are poor/not rich that do this. I think it's a huge case of jealously, and envy.
Not all rich people are scumbags, except people like the OP act as if every single mother fuckin' rich person out there is a total scum bag. They aren't, there are plenty of scum bag rich people, just like there are plenty of scum bag poor people.
Its not that they are scumbags, people laugh at how incompetent and oblivious the rich are when it comes to the "real world", and the fact that they talk funny. There are alot of downsides to being rich for sure, but when it comes to assholes rich assholes are the worst of the worst. Poor people don't start wars.
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Gilgamesh18 said: Rich people shop at whole foods which never has any impurities in there fruit or vegetables. In fact you can easily judge someones socioeconomic status based solely on the grocery stores they go to and the way they walk.
Hahaha I know a lot of lower middle class 20-somethings who shop at whole foods cuz they live in cities and it's convenient to their neighborhood. Also know a lot of wealthier people who are into farmers markets(which is really the best way to get organic and fresh shit that's also fairly priced.)
Maybe I'm just lucky cuz PA goes from crowded cities to bumblefuck nowhere really REALLY fast and there's amish butchers and organic farmers who sell their goods at open-air markets in philly.
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thedeadwalkk said: I often laugh when I see people making fun of rich people, and criticizing them; Often times I see people who are poor/not rich that do this. I think it's a huge case of jealously, and envy.
Not all rich people are scumbags, except people like the OP act as if every single mother fuckin' rich person out there is a total scum bag. They aren't, there are plenty of scum bag rich people, just like there are plenty of scum bag poor people.
Its not that they are scumbags, people laugh at how incompetent and oblivious the rich are when it comes to the "real world", and the fact that they talk funny. There are alot of downsides to being rich for sure, but when it comes to assholes rich assholes are the worst of the worst. Poor people don't start wars.
Competency and social status are not mutually exclusive..i know you're not saying they are, I'm just saying in general.. When I first moved out I had no fucking clue about a lot of shit about the real world, no street smarts, super naive, no exposure to real suffering...moving to a shady area in a big city that i barely knew put a lot of stuff in perspective for me. Real fast. I got by on dumb luck in that neighborhood alone..
idk, man, like I personally am flat ass broke and have slummed it in the past and when I need to, but when people meet my family they usually say something like 'woah..your family is rich'...they're not, they're upper middle class people who have come from lower socioeconomic situations, got educations, and work very hard for the money they have and budget just as much(actually, moreso, much much moreso than the average person). I grew up around horses and I have spent a great deal of my life picking up horse shit in freezing temperatures at 5am, my parents taught me to work and taught me to live within my means(srsly, I am still shocked that so many people think that because they can pay for things with a credit card they can go crazy and live totally outside of their means). They also taught me to be grateful for what you've got, and well..to just not be an asshole. No one likes an asshole. Money doesn't define a person, either way.
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Yeah I was raised that way too. I guess it is not rich people who are the problem as much as people who put money before community and family values.
Fuck being raised by employees and worrying about being kidnapped in public places though. That is absurd to me. I'd take my problems any day. No jealousy, only amusement that such a life is consider desirable by some.
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sour fruit sounds good a pomegranate would be nice saw them today don't know if there are any organic food places or anything thing like that around me never saw one or heard of one a guy i know opens a big stand on the side of the road every spring and he has some good stuff am pretty sure that would count there are some stands up now but they don't have every much and are far away
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When i say "good shit" i'm talking about the health factors. Not taste or scarcity of the food
i would die without those things. and, english chocolites.
and ,perrier water, or fuji waters, doesnt just grow in bottles ya know.
were talking basic shoe closet fridge middle of the night wake up after 1/2 grams of dabs munchie medical NEED here......
Wow, you need bluefin tuna? You need it? You would die without a fish who's population has decreased so much over the last 20 years that it's questionable whether or not it will be here in the next 20?
As a sushi chef I take particular offense to this. Even in the restaurant industry everyone has tried to cut back on how much maguro gets used because the future of the animal is uncertain.
Wow after reading all of your posts in this thread I totally get it now. You fucking berate everyone who wants to grow mushrooms without a pressure cooker because you are literally incapable of contemplating an existence where such a 'cheap' thing may be inaccessible. You've never had to work for anything. You've never been so poor that you've had to make the choice between paying for your kid's shoes or paying your rent on time.
When the 'new age' you talk about finally comes you're not going to be around to see it. People like you are going to be the first against the wall, the first to beg for their lives while there is a gun to their head. Not because you did something wrong. But because you didn't do anything right. The rich claim they've earned their right to horde their wealth while millions have nothing. You are the people who are blessed in this life, and yet when you die I know you will suffer because when the walls that separate the poor from the rich finally crumble and the smoke from the barrel of your executioner's gun dissipates, the undoing of your soul will not be your mistakes or your bad investments, it will not be your white lies or your greed. It will not be your pride or your lust or your gluttony.
Your sin is your indifference. And for that you deserve to suffer. You are the absolute worst kind of person. Everything you've described in your posts paints the picture of the egotistical superior who is above the unclean methods of the mere common folk. I hope I get to pull the trigger myself. Whatever you think the 'new age' is going to be it is NOT going to be something that you will get to be a part of because it won't be something you'll be able to buy your way into.
Fucking Die.
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Wow, you need bluefin tuna? You need it? You would die without a fish who's population has decreased so much over the last 20 years that it's questionable whether or not it will be here in the next 20?
dude the more endangered the better 
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stimpson said: in syracuse and rochester ny, the upper class (doctors, lawyers, etc.) shop at a grocery chain called wegmans. there are walmarts and price choppers and grocery depots, but that's where the poor irish, black and latino people shop.
The lower class shop at Wegdogs too. You ain't never heard of the Pondscum Wegmans? It's not open anymore, but it was for a very long time.

Does that look like somewhere rich people would go for their groceries? Don't be fooled, that's not a picture from the 80s, that's exactly what it looked like up until it closed last year.
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An Aldi's is opening up pretty close to me, I'm excited as fuck
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stimpson said: in syracuse and rochester ny, the upper class (doctors, lawyers, etc.) shop at a grocery chain called wegmans. there are walmarts and price choppers and grocery depots, but that's where the poor irish, black and latino people shop.
The lower class shop at Wegdogs too. You ain't never heard of the Pondscum Wegmans? It's not open anymore, but it was for a very long time.

Does that look like somewhere rich people would go for their groceries? Don't be fooled, that's not a picture from the 80s, that's exactly what it looked like up until it closed last year.
Dude wegmans is the shit! And actually a pretty affordable place to shop, too, they just also happen to offer fresh high quality shit as well. it's the best of both worlds.

Also they're one of the only grocery stores to sell beer and wine in PA(grrr) so people here are obsessed. AND they're open 24/7.
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When i say "good shit" i'm talking about the health factors. Not taste or scarcity of the food
i would die without those things. and, english chocolites.
and ,perrier water, or fuji waters, doesnt just grow in bottles ya know.
were talking basic shoe closet fridge middle of the night wake up after 1/2 grams of dabs munchie medical NEED here......
Wow, you need bluefin tuna? You need it? You would die without a fish who's population has decreased so much over the last 20 years that it's questionable whether or not it will be here in the next 20?
As a sushi chef I take particular offense to this. Even in the restaurant industry everyone has tried to cut back on how much maguro gets used because the future of the animal is uncertain.
Wow after reading all of your posts in this thread I totally get it now. You fucking berate everyone who wants to grow mushrooms without a pressure cooker because you are literally incapable of contemplating an existence where such a 'cheap' thing may be inaccessible. You've never had to work for anything. You've never been so poor that you've had to make the choice between paying for your kid's shoes or paying your rent on time.
When the 'new age' you talk about finally comes you're not going to be around to see it. People like you are going to be the first against the wall, the first to beg for their lives while there is a gun to their head. Not because you did something wrong. But because you didn't do anything right. The rich claim they've earned their right to horde their wealth while millions have nothing. You are the people who are blessed in this life, and yet when you die I know you will suffer because when the walls that separate the poor from the rich finally crumble and the smoke from the barrel of your executioner's gun dissipates, the undoing of your soul will not be your mistakes or your bad investments, it will not be your white lies or your greed. It will not be your pride or your lust or your gluttony.
Your sin is your indifference. And for that you deserve to suffer. You are the absolute worst kind of person. Everything you've described in your posts paints the picture of the egotistical superior who is above the unclean methods of the mere common folk. I hope I get to pull the trigger myself. Whatever you think the 'new age' is going to be it is NOT going to be something that you will get to be a part of because it won't be something you'll be able to buy your way into.
Fucking Die.
my condolences your so angry elastic.
id suggest, change your own life paradigm, rather than seek to lower all to your obvoius discomfort thru violence.
lack of a PC in a grow, is like a carpenter without a saw or hammer. i dont feel a need to endorse " oliver twist " type grows. if its a contest to cheap, by all means accept the trophy cup.
your kids are no responsibilty but your own. i dont bitch at you about the cost of my maid.
a sushi chef? schooling me on blue fin? thats jack the ripper in sea life terms. you pale even my hubris.
tell ya what, order your sad angry life, then tell me about mine.
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Rich people buy immigrants to pick fresh fruit from trees. They don't own the trees, they just make the people steal the fruit and bring it back to them.
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if everyone is a victim of rich peeps money, how come the rich arent doing way better?
what i think you guys are missing here, is theres 2 types of money. inherited money, and merit money.
everyone hates inherited money. even merit money hates inherited money . only loosers hate merit AND inherited money, as "merit" money, is available to all.
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good point. Like the old rich Australian bitch with inherited money who said poor people don't work hard enough like
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Wow, you need bluefin tuna? You need it? You would die without a fish who's population has decreased so much over the last 20 years that it's questionable whether or not it will be here in the next 20?
dude the more endangered the better 
tastes so good knowing the proletariat can barely afford it
lol you can drop the act now. For one, your grammar is not up to par as a hundred mil/1 bil family would be and various other reasons it is easy to see.
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Can someone explain the importance on an online thread to act like you're rich?
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Wow, you need bluefin tuna? You need it? You would die without a fish who's population has decreased so much over the last 20 years that it's questionable whether or not it will be here in the next 20?
dude the more endangered the better 
tastes so good knowing the proletariat can barely afford it
lol you can drop the act now. For one, your grammar is not up to par as a hundred mil/1 bil family would be and various other reasons it is easy to see. 
Since when did all millionaires have good grammar?
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unknown, forgets we can hire peeps in college to spell check, conjure up papers, and ,even sit thru classes as imposter guest hosts.
besides, half of us bribe our way into college, cuz our social lives are too intense in HS . its why we all have tutors and trainers. who the hell has time otherwise?
if education equaled money, the whole system would collapse.
i tried faking being poor in 2003. i was really bad at it.
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anne halonium said: unknown, forgets we can hire peeps in college to spell check, conjure up papers, and ,even sit thru classes as imposter guest hosts.
besides, half of us bribe our way into college, cuz our social lives are too intense in HS . its why we all have tutors and trainers. who the hell has time otherwise?
if education equaled money, the whole system would collapse.
i tried faking being poor in 2003. i was really bad at it.
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Anne Hallonium is SPOT ON about about Upper Class eating habits. The difference between Upper Class Eating and Middle Class with money is pretty damn different.
Upper Class kitchens will more often than not do everything from scratch as possible. Any time saving devices inside a kitchen are not as classy because upper class people don't need to save time.
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anne halonium said: unknown, forgets we can hire peeps in college to spell check, conjure up papers, and ,even sit thru classes as imposter guest hosts.
besides, half of us bribe our way into college, cuz our social lives are too intense in HS . its why we all have tutors and trainers. who the hell has time otherwise?
if education equaled money, the whole system would collapse.
i tried faking being poor in 2003. i was really bad at it.
this is starting to get pathetic
you are starting to get more annoying. do you have anything to ADD to the subject other then quipping about how "lulsy" this all is to you?
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Nope, everything has pretty much been said in this thread that needs to be said.
Which most of it was common sense anyways.
So now I'm just laughing at the wannabee trolls
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anne halonium said: if everyone is a victim of rich peeps money, how come the rich arent doing way better?
what i think you guys are missing here, is theres 2 types of money. inherited money, and merit money.
everyone hates inherited money. even merit money hates inherited money . only loosers hate merit AND inherited money, as "merit" money, is available to all.
A lot of people are happier without money. That doesn't make them a loser.
not sure if trolling, speaking for rich people, or if you truly are the .001%
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although im loathe to admit it. we had a cook for our dogs.
i used to cook for my himalayan cat though. the cook didnt like him, and would over cook his steaks. so the cat would sneer.
id usually get up and cook a proper t-bone for him at night. he was into omaha beef. gram wouldnt let us feed him the KOBE.
i miss that cat, i keep his oil painting above my bed.
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What do you do in your free time anne?
besides paying people money to wipe your ass.
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akira_akuma said: you're trolling.
Nope, just posting on a forum but I'm done. this last post had me in tears and my stomach hurts from laughing:
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anne halonium said: although im loathe to admit it. we had a cook for our dogs.
i used to cook for my himalayan cat though. the cook didnt like him, and would over cook them. so the cat would sneer.
id usually get up and cook a proper t-bone for him at night. he was into omaha beef. gram wouldnt let us feed him the KOBE.
i miss that cat, i keep his oil painting above my bed.
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anne halonium said: although im loathe to admit it. we had a cook for our dogs.
i used to cook for my himalayan cat though. the cook didnt like him, and would over cook them. so the cat would sneer.
id usually get up and cook a proper t-bone for him at night. he was into omaha beef. gram wouldnt let us fed him the KOBE.
i miss that cat, i keep his oil painting above my bed.
This is really how the upperclass are. Any one who thinks this is trolling should read more about class from the perspective of culinary aspects, reading habits, taste, socialization, language, etc.
A single bookshelf and what items are on a table can usually give you all the details you need to denote class.
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zee007 said: What do you do in your free time anne?
besides paying people money to wipe your ass.
we have bidets and towel service silly.
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I like annes postings on the lifestyles of the rich and famous very interesting even if a fabrication still fascinating.
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I don't consider someone rich if you can see their house from the street. Unless the 'house' is an entire floor or two of an NYC skyscraper, that doesn't count.
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Agreed gated communities isolated properties privacy is generally paramount for the ultra wealthy.
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I think people would rather be called a nigger than be told they are from the lower class.
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anne halonium said: although im loathe to admit it. we had a cook for our dogs.
i used to cook for my himalayan cat though. the cook didnt like him, and would over cook them. so the cat would sneer.
id usually get up and cook a proper t-bone for him at night. he was into omaha beef. gram wouldnt let us fed him the KOBE.
i miss that cat, i keep his oil painting above my bed.
This is really how the upperclass are. Any one who thinks this is trolling should read more about class from the perspective of culinary aspects, reading habits, taste, socialization, language, etc.
A single bookshelf and what items are on a table can usually give you all the details you need to denote class.
There's a difference between rich, and the type of rich you are referring to. I don't have to read all that shit to make assumptions about someone making such far-fetched claims on the internet.
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So tell me at least 5 differences.
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i make no apologies for my good fortune. and, would wish fortune for all of you.
just trying to educate, and bridge the gap.
this is sorta enlightening to me. i really have no clue how alot of you get by. or, why ya tolerate it.
for what its worth, the 100 mill peeps , sneer at the 10's of mills peeps, if that makes anyone feel better.
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anne halonium said: i make no apologies for my good fortune. and, would wish fortune for all of you.
just trying to educate, and bridge the gap.
this is sorta enlightening to me. i really have no clue how alot of you get by. or, why ya tolerate it.
for what its worth, the 100 mill peeps , sneer at the 10's of mills peeps, if that makes anyone feel better.
someone has been watching to much downton abbey.
although most of what you say is true, it really is just common knowledge with a personal edge to make it believable to the commoner.
Billion is the new million as most in the know would say.
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we had our own gated valley, and, gram kennels had remote control. we were " releasing the hounds" long before mr burns was.........
Apolly " gets it", and has obviously seen how we live.
food service, is just a small part of it.
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Apollyphelion said: So tell me at least 5 differences.
K. Rich is having money to spend on a range rover, a $300,000+ house, living in a nice neighborhood, designer clothes, and going out to eat 6-7 days a week. Not just having a limo driver, a chef, a $500,000 wrist watch, and all the outlandish things described as "rich" in this thread. If you don't consider any of the things I've listed wealthy enough to be classified as being rich then I think you are being ignorant.
I'm not defining rich with the things I've listed, I feel rich is more like what people consider middle class in america, but I listed 5 things like you asked.
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anne halonium said: i make no apologies for my good fortune. and, would wish fortune for all of you.
just trying to educate, and bridge the gap.
this is sorta enlightening to me. i really have no clue how alot of you get by. or, why ya tolerate it.
for what its worth, the 100 mill peeps , sneer at the 10's of mills peeps, if that makes anyone feel better.
The gap will never, ever, ever, ever be bridged. There will always be people who prefer the T.V. Guide to Jung And that friction will cause snobbery And the ability to rarely relate.
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K. Rich is having money to spend on a range rover, a $300,000+ house, living in a nice neighborhood, designer clothes, and going out to eat 6-7 days a week. If you don't consider any of the above wealthy enough to be classified as being rich then I think you are being ignorant.
I'm not defining rich with the things I've listed, I feel rich is more like what people consider middle class in america, but I listed 5 things like you asked.
That is affluent, and not necessarily upperclass.
It is rich, but not Old Money.
Two people can make the same amount of money and be from different classes.
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K. Rich is having money to spend on a range rover, a $300,000+ house, living in a nice neighborhood, designer clothes, and going out to eat 6-7 days a week. If you don't consider any of the above wealthy enough to be classified asbeing rich then I think you are being ignorant.
300k house? the kennel and the hot tub decks, cost 180k, just to dynamite the cliff for the walkways and terraces. and haul off the stone.
i never saw the bill on the actual buildings.
and ,that didnt include the damages to the plaster in the guest house, when the shock wave went thru the rock!
range rover arent a big deal. we howled when we got them in HS, we wanted pink bentleys. lemem tell ya , a cream range rover, is NOT a pink bentley. its kinda a buzz kill actually.
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K. Rich is having money to spend on a range rover, a $300,000+ house, living in a nice neighborhood, designer clothes, and going out to eat 6-7 days a week. If you don't consider any of the above wealthy enough to be classified asbeing rich then I think you are being ignorant.
300k house? the kennel and the hot tub decks, cost 180k, just to dynamite the cliff for the walkways and terraces. and haul off the stone.
i never saw the bill on the actual buildings.
and ,that didnt include the damages to the plaster in the guest hose, when the shock wave went thru the rock!
If your buildings don't have at least one aesthetically pleasing gable, It would automatically like lose 10 points in my book. If I had to pretend I'm psychic I would bet it is French Style chateau with Mansart Roofs.
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just trying to educate, and bridge the gap.
this is sorta enlightening to me. i really have no clue how alot of you get by. or, why ya tolerate it.
for what its worth, the 100 mill peeps , sneer at the 10's of mills peeps, if that makes anyone feel better.
bridging a gap? More like building a ladder to the moon.
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cant say who designed the house, or youd look it up.
it was hardly versalles. the fountain was barely big enough to skinny dip in.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: zee007]
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K. Rich is having money to spend on a range rover, a $300,000+ house, living in a nice neighborhood, designer clothes, and going out to eat 6-7 days a week. Not just having a limo driver, a chef, a $500,000 wrist watch, and all the outlandish things described as "rich" in this thread. If you don't consider any of the things I've listed wealthy enough to be classified as being rich then I think you are being ignorant.
I'm not defining rich with the things I've listed, I feel rich is more like what people consider middle class in america, but I listed 5 things like you asked.
A $300 000 house is rich?

You make me laugh. You can barely buy a condo in my city for that. $300 000 is a baseline, not even CLOSE to rich. The rich we're talking about in this thread is $2 000 000+ house.
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K. Rich is having money to spend on a range rover, a $300,000+ house, living in a nice neighborhood, designer clothes, and going out to eat 6-7 days a week. Not just having a limo driver, a chef, a $500,000 wrist watch, and all the outlandish things described as "rich" in this thread. If you don't consider any of the things I've listed wealthy enough to be classified as being rich then I think you are being ignorant.
I'm not defining rich with the things I've listed, I feel rich is more like what people consider middle class in america, but I listed 5 things like you asked.
A $300 000 house is rich?

You make me laugh. You can barely buy a condo in my city for that. $300 000 is a baseline, not even CLOSE to rich. The rich we're talking about in this thread is $2 000 000+ house.
Re-read the entire post and then get back to me.
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I don't care who designed it The point was to figure out architectural style And I would guess French style Mansart roofs (if built recently, probably no stratification) Dormer windows, most likely Neo Classical Not all palaces are equal I've been to enough to know However I would guess French probably not Germanic or Eastern Europe style
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300k , would be a down payment on the condo im in right now.
for what is worth, grams estate, and my city house, we seized in 1999 , for back taxes.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: zee007]
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So whats your opinion on the current topic then akira?
that pwnsarus should stop acting like dick in every thread where he can act pompous about his living expenses.
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Neo Classical is some fine design.
I like Neo Classical However I think Art Noveau Neo Renaissance Gaudi (who is in a league of his own) and Queen Anne styles are nicer.
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gram was into 1950s modern look. that kinda narrows the designers down some.
and no , we didnt have a waterfall in the house. its out by the hot tubs.
gram actually came from pre revolution french money. she was trying to get away from that sorta. its over played by new money.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: zee007]
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K. Rich is having money to spend on a range rover, a $300,000+ house, living in a nice neighborhood, designer clothes, and going out to eat 6-7 days a week.
$300K is really not especially expensive for a house. The average sale price of a house around here is over $500k.
http://www.torontorealestateboard.com/MARKET_NEWS/market_watch/
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Neo Classical is some fine design.
I like Neo Classical However I think Art Noveau Neo Renaissance Gaudi (who is in a league of his own) and Queen Anne styles are nicer.
Art Noveau is way nicer. probably the nicest in my opinion. Gaudi, i ain't even heard of so... i look it up.
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and no , we didnt have a waterfall in the house. its out by the hot tubs.
gram actually came from pre revolution french money. she was trying to get away from that sorta. its over played by new money.
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW Now I'm definitely NOT gonna hunt down the desginer. I don't care if it was made by Frank Lloyd Wright. I have such a disdain for 'modern' style, especially buildings that aren't skyscrapers.
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OMG psi, your an elitist in a mansion! dont tell em ya also have a PC, and indoor plumbing, or youll be assaulted...........
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I am absolutely snobby about architecture however it is a passion people rarely have so I never get to flaunt, I mean share my snobbery.
Your estate was probably the nicest fondue pot ever made. That's how I feel about Modern Style.
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for what is worth, grams estate, and my city house, we seized in 1999 , for back taxes.
if that makes anyone feel better. not every day is roses.
Never really felt bad in the first place. You could make me feel better by helping me pay rent this month though 
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So whats your opinion on the current topic then akira?
that pwnsarus should stop acting like dick in every thread where he can act pompous about his living expenses.
I apologize, I assumed you were replying to the passed couple pages as a whole. I was wondering what all the hostility was about. Annoys me more when people have no clue what they are replying to and make false accusations..
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we liked it.
not to fond of the damn yankees that seized it though.
hey, personally, im partial to versalles also. its genetic........
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I certainly don't own the house I live in, but I'd guess it would probably sell for somewhere in the ballpark of $300k. It's a 3 bedroom bungalow in the suburbs.
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Zee I apologize, I assumed you were replying to the passed couple pages as a whole. I was wondering what all the hostility was about. Annoys me more when people have no clue what they are replying to and make false accusations..
me too. plus, the hostility in general is just palpable on here. it's like most everyone has got to be on the defense about one thing or another, all the freakin' time.
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K. Rich is having money to spend on a range rover, a $300,000+ house, living in a nice neighborhood, designer clothes, and going out to eat 6-7 days a week.
$300K is really not especially expensive for a house. The average sale price of a house around here is over $500k.
http://www.torontorealestateboard.com/MARKET_NEWS/market_watch/
hah 300k isn't expensive? I suggest you move somewhere more practical man
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K. Rich is having money to spend on a range rover, a $300,000+ house, living in a nice neighborhood, designer clothes, and going out to eat 6-7 days a week.
$300K is really not especially expensive for a house. The average sale price of a house around here is over $500k.
http://www.torontorealestateboard.com/MARKET_NEWS/market_watch/
hah 300k isn't expensive? I suggest you move somewhere more practical man
Anne, you are not allowed to quote this 
As I said, $300k is not expensive at all. Some people enjoying living in an interesting city. You gotta pay to play.
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It's definitely well beyond anything I ever plan on living in, but 300k for a house in the burbs of a major metropolitan area sounds about what I would expect.
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play the useless inane shit game that makes nothing happen for nobody. whoopy fun times.
lets just make a big sore on the planets face. that's an achievement@!
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Re: do rich people... [Re: jewunit]
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I agree, but to say 300k for a 3 bedroom living space, or a condo (even in a metropolitan area) isn't expensive is ridiculous.
The logic here is pretty simple.
Edit: In other words, it is expensive to live in a major metropolitan area
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It's below average for a metropolitan area of several million people. But yes that would be quite expensive for me. My parents own a house here and work middle class jobs. My mom is a nurse and my dad is a principal now but worked most of his career as a teacher. My inlaws drive subways for a living and own 3 houses (2 here and one in Florida.) Keep in mind that most people take decades to pay off their houses.
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I agree, but to say 300k for a 3 bedroom living space, or a condo (even in a metropolitan area) isn't expensive is ridiculous.
The logic here is pretty simple.
Edit: In other words, it is expensive to live in a major metropolitan area
i almost didn't get it, but then i was like "oh a get it".
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I agree, but to say 300k for a 3 bedroom living space, or a condo (even in a metropolitan area) isn't expensive is ridiculous.
The logic here is pretty simple.
Edit: In other words, it is expensive to live in a major metropolitan area
i almost didn't get it, but then i was like "oh a get it".

Think it's about time I call it quits on this thread.
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I agree, but to say 300k for a 3 bedroom living space, or a condo (even in a metropolitan area) isn't expensive is ridiculous.
The logic here is pretty simple.
Edit: In other words, it is expensive to live in a major metropolitan area
$300k for a house is ridiculous? 
One day you'll grow up and live in the real world. That is not at all expensive.
My parents paid $200k for their house 20 years ago in the suburbs of a small city. They didn't even have paved roads at the time. That $200k is at least $300k by today's standards. If you're in a real city the price is far higher.
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is it annoying you or just making you begrudged for wasting your time over this shit? then yes, do it. do yourself a favor, because you'll most likely just end up arguing your very same point, the whole time, while no one listens.
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I agree, but to say 300k for a 3 bedroom living space, or a condo (even in a metropolitan area) isn't expensive is ridiculous.
The logic here is pretty simple.
Edit: In other words, it is expensive to live in a major metropolitan area
$300k for a house is ridiculous? 
One day you'll grow up and live in the real world. That is not at all expensive.
the real world is pervasive and disgusting. you need to live there, because... you know, you love this shit.
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Yes, it is expensive to live in a major metropolitan area. That doesn't mean that people who own houses in such areas are particularly rich though. What qualifies as rich is up for debate, but IMO "middle class" is a more accurate description of people who make more money than the poor but a lot less than the very rich, and compose a sizable portion of a country's population.
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PS: Pwn read again
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I agree, but to say 300k for a 3 bedroom living space, or a condo (even in a metropolitan area) isn't expensive is ridiculous
he's saying that SAYING IT ISN'T EXPENSIVE. get the argument right, so it can be fucking resolved. GOD.
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Exactly...
Oh and pwnasaurus, we must not live in the same world.
I pay $950 a month for a house I feel is too big for me. Man you should see all the land I have, although it's sorta surrounded by city life, it is still relatively quiet and peaceful. Stop making all these fucking assumptions, I know what struggle is. You live in a world that offers far better opportunity, but you refuse to see it.
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Wow, you need bluefin tuna? You need it? You would die without a fish who's population has decreased so much over the last 20 years that it's questionable whether or not it will be here in the next 20?
dude the more endangered the better 
tastes so good knowing the proletariat can barely afford it
lol you can drop the act now. For one, your grammar is not up to par as a hundred mil/1 bil family would be and various other reasons it is easy to see. 
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unknown1123 said: Can someone explain the importance on an online thread to act like you're rich?
Dude im just having fun. Anyone who took me seriously or thought I was actually trying to pretend I am a billionaire is a retard.
Thought it would be pretty obvious. And excuse my hostility but you took the first swing at me
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Re: do rich people... [Re: NWlight]
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Re: do rich people... [Re: zee007]
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akira_akuma said: is it annoying you or just making you begrudged for wasting your time over this shit? then yes, do it. do yourself a favor, because you'll most likely just end up arguing your very same point, the whole time, while no one listens. 
Exactly...
Oh and pwnasaurus, we must not live in the same world.
I pay $950 a month for a house I feel is too big for me. Man you should see all the land I have, although it's sorta surrounded by city life, it is still relatively quiet and peaceful. Stop making all these fucking assumptions, I know what struggle is. You live in a world that offers far better opportunity, but you refuse to see it.
Let's say that $950 a month was your payment on a 25 year mortgage. That's $285K in payments over that period. Obviously a good sized chunk of that will go to interest, but a person who can afford a $300K house over 25 years is really not all that much richer than you are.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: psi]
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yah, but he's saying it's unnecessarily expensive or unnecessarily big and needless.
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He never said that, at least not that I can tell. All he said was it's expensive, then demonstrated that he could easily afford it.
A lot of it is relative. To me even $500 a month is out of reach expensive, but that's because of where I am right now. To many of my peers that's cheap.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: jewunit]
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maybe i am mistaken. it's waht it looked like he said, to me. he seems to me, to be making not a comparison, but a point about how expensive items are needless. i was hoping he'd reiterate, because well damn, this thread...
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I agree, but to say 300k for a 3 bedroom living space, or a condo (even in a metropolitan area) isn't expensive is ridiculous
he's saying that SAYING IT ISN'T EXPENSIVE. get the argument right, so it can be fucking resolved. GOD.
My god this is stupid. There's no resolving an argument when the first premise is flawed. Making the claim that a 300k house is expensive -to someone living around the poverty line- is no big jump of reasoning. But saying that "what most consider middle class should be considered rich" is ignorant.
The whole point here is that No, to a real wealthy person, 300k isn't shit. And one of the main reasons the whole wealth disparity issue is so misunderstood is because of fools like you muddying it up like this. People mortgage their 300k house to buy a range rover and then think they're rich, so they vote for the interests of billionaires. There is wealth out there that you can't even comprehend, you're too busy getting mad at your neighbor for buying a 2br house. A yacht you can land a helicopter on is unnecessary.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: Lynnch]
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ok, i have nothing against rich people or whatever you're complaining about. go away. people can do what they want.
like i said, he isn't making a comparison... he is just trying to make a point. if you're so smart help the man out in his position. don't pander your rhetoric to me, when i'm not even really fighting the issue, here.
fucking christ.
PS: there is alot of wealth out there and it's accumulated and it's central to the well being of live on this planet, because we made it that way.
doesn't make it right, or better or "natural" or anything, either... so why are getting so upset over someones opinion on the matter, if it doesn't effect you and your amassing of wealth?
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Re: do rich people... [Re: Lynnch]
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How are they supposed to land their helicopter on their yacht without a helipad?
that made no sense. I'd say its 100% necessary
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I'm not upset about his opinion, or point or whatever it was. I read something blatantly silly and felt it would be irresponsible to not respond and set it straight.
Much of the last thousand years of human history has been centered around the fight against the accumulation of wealth and power in the hands of the few, and for progress towards prosperity for the many.
What they really need is a yacht that can fly!
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Re: do rich people... [Re: Lynnch]
#19105289 - 11/08/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The spruce goose is a wooden plane that could take off and land from water.

Flying yachts are just a step away....
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Re: do rich people... [Re: NWlight]
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ill admit, when we were in monte carlo, we couldnt get a slip once for a whole day, and ,had to go to shore on the zodiac.
it was sorta embarrasing, because peeps do have yachts with helipads.
adding insult to injury, i was kicked out of one of the casinos within an hour for card counting, having only made 16k.
talk about boring vacation.
this kind of thing is a real issue.
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my condolences your so angry elastic.
id suggest, change your own life paradigm,
order your sad angry life, then tell me about mine.
I don't need to order my life, YOU'RE the one who claims you would die without tuna. Your kind of ignorance is what gets people killed. YOU are the reason people are starving. There is enough wealth in this world to end poverty... but that's not your responsibility. Not as human being. Not as a compassionate soul. When you get murdered in your bed in the revolution it will be justice. Your crime is letting everyone else die so you can live your exquisite lifestyle at everyone else' expense.
I'm far past worrying about my money now that I'm done working like a slave as an apprentice. For the record, our restaurant only uses sustainable fish from farms. We never serve bluefin, though you're right, when I was working as a slave I had to butcher my fair share. I didn't think anything of it because I was young. Then I wised up. Mastery has brought me comfort, if at the expense of my health. But your right, I am angry.
I'm angry that poverty still exists in an age when the means to end it sit right in front of us and the only thing stopping it is the inaction of those with wealth. You should get used to this kind of anger, because it's only going to become more and more common if things stay the same much longer. Your time is running out Anne.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: Lynnch]
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Much of the last thousand years of human history has been centered around the fight against the accumulation of wealth and power in the hands of the few, and for progress towards prosperity for the many.
What they really need is a yacht that can fly!
what we need is to lay less claim to material possessions and just live for people. unfortunately being divided makes people apathetic and spoiled and uncaring. possessions remedy that.
i am not of school of thought, that "everyone should strive to capitalize on investments and their abilities to make money, so they can amass wealth for themselves and their family"
i am of the school of though that "everyone should strive to make the world a better place"
sometimes it involves money... sometimes what we've gained is helpful in making positive changes in the world. i don't judge people for making or having money... i do whoever think people who think they are right all the time, because they're doing what THEY WANT, are being ridiculous. but we all do it, though, don't we. it's rare to see someone striving for helpfulness without being condemning, preachy, insulting or callous.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: NWlight]
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LOL, he's passionate, you shitter!1
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yeah, and you were there? 
you don't know, you don't care, you're just glad that you wasn't there.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: Lynnch]
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akira_akuma said: maybe i am mistaken. it's waht it looked like he said, to me. he seems to me, to be making not a comparison, but a point about how expensive items are needless. i was hoping he'd reiterate, because well damn, this thread...
Haha yes, this is the point I'm trying to make.
Holy shit, I know you guys are more intelligent than this... How many ways do I have to explain this???
Okay, lets pretend houses are clothing. You can go to a department store and spend $30 on an outfit or an outfit with the same fucking logo at retail price. In the United States, you can choose to live in a highly populated city for 10x the cost of an even nicer house in certain areas.Quote:
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I agree, but to say 300k for a 3 bedroom living space, or a condo (even in a metropolitan area) isn't expensive is ridiculous
he's saying that SAYING IT ISN'T EXPENSIVE. get the argument right, so it can be fucking resolved. GOD.
My god this is stupid. There's no resolving an argument when the first premise is flawed. Making the claim that a 300k house is expensive -to someone living around the poverty line- is no big jump of reasoning. But saying that "what most consider middle class should be considered rich" is ignorant.
The whole point here is that No, to a real wealthy person, 300k isn't shit. And one of the main reasons the whole wealth disparity issue is so misunderstood is because of fools like you muddying it up like this. People mortgage their 300k house to buy a range rover and then think they're rich, so they vote for the interests of billionaires. There is wealth out there that you can't even comprehend, you're too busy getting mad at your neighbor for buying a 2br house. A yacht you can land a helicopter on is unnecessary.
This has nothing to do with what I was arguing ...
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you don't know, you don't care, you're just glad that you wasn't there.
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LOL
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akira_akuma said: yeah, and you were there? 
you don't know, you don't care, you're just glad that you wasn't there.
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LOL
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akira_akuma said: yeah, and you were there? 
you don't know, you don't care, you're just glad that you wasn't there.
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LOL
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Re: do rich people... [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said: He never said that, at least not that I can tell. All he said was it's expensive, then demonstrated that he could easily afford it.
Hahaha what?? This makes no sense, I say it is expensive because I can't easily afford it and yeah, I was also trying to make a point. Where did I demonstrate I had 300k to blow?
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Re: do rich people... [Re: zee007]
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i think their point was though, that "being rich is good DURRRR"
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its alright, but you do note downsides.
500$ month, sounds like half the pot bill, not rent.
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akira_akuma said: i think their point was though, that "being rich is good DURRRR"
idgaf what they think. If they wanted to make a point sure, but it was completely unrelated to the point I was making.
Fuck all of this. I feel like I'm teaching little kids how to stack leggos, I didn't sign up for a day care, and I have work anyway in 30min.
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actually we knew the wall was coming down before it happened. it was the talk of berlin months before they did it. the concierge , told us all about it one night.
people belong to different schools of thought... people in Communism wanted what the US had, because they were sick of playing second fiddle. Capitalism is simply more favorable to people a different school of thought, then that of Communists; and at some point Communism couldn't support itself on the world stage, sharing it with Capitalism. it's really only that simple. it had nothing to with what i'm sure you think is "evil communism". it only had to do with a trend.
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idgaf what they think. If they wanted to make a point sure, but it was completely unrelated to the point I was making.
oh. well...
well... being rich is good so... so...
THERE!
sorta like that?
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akira_akuma said: i think their point was though, that "being rich is good DURRRR"
its alright, but you do note downsides.
500$ month, sounds like half the pot bill, not rent.
sounds like excess to me. blatant excess.
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excess? we call that austerity.
ive even cut the dom back to 2 bottles a week.
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i call it wasteful of natural resources and pandering.
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i think ill pass on that one. im trying to be relatively polite, and limit the "ayn halonium" stance.
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jewunit said: He never said that, at least not that I can tell. All he said was it's expensive, then demonstrated that he could easily afford it.
Hahaha what?? This makes no sense, I say it is expensive because I can't easily afford it and yeah, I was also trying to make a point. Where did I demonstrate I had 300k to blow?
It's not exactly "blowing" the money, everyone needs somewhere to live and it's an asset you can sell later if desired. How many people who own a house just had the full cost sitting around in their bank account and bought it up front? Most pay a mortgage for decades. You mentioned how much you pay monthly for housing. Add up the total you would pay out over a typical mortgage term and it's a sizable amount (a little under $300K over 25 years.) People who buy houses that cost $300k are paying more every month than you do because of the interest (which does add up to a massive amount,) but if they're "rich" then you're not really all that far off from it either.
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I can't believe any of you guys even believe half the shit anne is saying
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Re: do rich people... [Re: jewunit]
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i know its incomprehensible someone is first world.
i couldnt fake being poor if i had a tutor. i dont even know how you guys survive really.
like im gonna stand around in choo shoes and a 6500$ gold chain, and get trailer park cred.
thing is , annie isnt the enemy. the larger system is your enemy.
im just trying to get thru the day like everyone else . sorta.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: jewunit]
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Re: do rich people... [Re: psi]
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Apollyphelion said: I think people would rather be called a nigger than be told they are from the lower class.
I agree with is statement. Though both would get your ass kicked regardless. 
Anyone else think Anne Is a big fibber? I mean like psychopathic lying traits?
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Beat me to it
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It's not incomprehensible that there are people who are ridiculously wealthy. It's incomprehensible that you are anything but a troll.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: dark3st]
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needless to say, im not too disturbed by the comments here.
ive seen fortune hating since birth. were trained to ignore it.
im not the only first worlder here. just brave enough to discuss it with you guys.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: jewunit]
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look i used to be REALLY loaded. now im not. im still , from what it seems, sorta loaded by common standards.
i understand you guys more than ya think. i got bumped once from a 5 star bistro, cuz a senator showed up. and ,i had reservations even. what, you guys thought only oliver twist could get offended? the poor, do not have a monopoly on social justice high ground..
im the poster girl for indignities, the 100 mil crowd, used to sleight us all the time, and then, proles attack from the other angle.
you guys wonder why were vicious? i think ive been most polite this thread, as its a topic i know about. im not on any threads about how to heat trailers with wally boxes.
i know id have an easier time here, if i lived in a trailer, was a fat bitch, had kids, dropped out of 8th grade, and thought a PC was a tool of the devil.............
i cant fake, what i dont know.
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I dunno, you seem pretty good at it to me.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: jewunit]
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glad to be of assistance.
im out. yacht club dinner, gotta swing by the florist.
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im out. yacht club dinner, gotta swing by the florist.
You are so fucken FULL OF YOURSELF.
Oh and I used a steamcooker for my mushroom grow and never had a contamination. That's how I know your FOS
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my condolences your so angry elastic.
id suggest, change your own life paradigm,
order your sad angry life, then tell me about mine.
I don't need to order my life, YOU'RE the one who claims you would die without tuna. Your kind of ignorance is what gets people killed. YOU are the reason people are starving. There is enough wealth in this world to end poverty... but that's not your responsibility. Not as human being. Not as a compassionate soul. When you get murdered in your bed in the revolution it will be justice. Your crime is letting everyone else die so you can live your exquisite lifestyle at everyone else' expense.
I'm far past worrying about my money now that I'm done working like a slave as an apprentice. For the record, our restaurant only uses sustainable fish from farms. We never serve bluefin, though you're right, when I was working as a slave I had to butcher my fair share. I didn't think anything of it because I was young. Then I wised up. Mastery has brought me comfort, if at the expense of my health. But your right, I am angry.
I'm angry that poverty still exists in an age when the means to end it sit right in front of us and the only thing stopping it is the inaction of those with wealth. You should get used to this kind of anger, because it's only going to become more and more common if things stay the same much longer. Your time is running out Anne.
So you profited from the slaughter of the poor endangered fish? You were a slave? Were you not paid? Were you kept in irons?
Rich people can pay for competent people to fend of the hordes of incompetent fuck ups who are incapable of supporting themselves. You do realize that if you are healthy you have to be an incredible fuck up if you cannot provide for your own needs in America, right?
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everyone is capable of providing for themselves. unless you're a skin and bones African child with no muscle mass to enact movement.
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Then why is half the country receiving government benefits of one kind or another?
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because they can, and they're lazy. different issue, isn't it? people being lazy fucks, and people being incapable of providing for themselves are two different things. by taking advantage of welfare or unemployment programs, you're providing for yourself, but by having support from another source but yourself. it's sad but true. you wanna eliminate laziness? that's an inherently separate issue from eliminating support programs. you wanna eliminate the support for people to reap the benefits from, lazily, that's a separate issue as well. isn't it? i don't know man, i'm just speculating.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: NWlight]
#19106243 - 11/08/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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also thank you for realizing I was being facetious. people seem to be taking everything I say in this thread literally 
when idiots have to talk about money, they get all offended and defensive and take everything seriously because it'd kill them to "not live in the real world". as if it's a damn good consolation prize to having no real purpose and meaning in life. reminds of someone... starts with P and ends with Saurus.
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akira_akuma said: because they can, and they're lazy. different issue, isn't it? people being lazy fucks, and people being incapable of providing for themselves are two different things. by taking advantage of welfare or unemployment programs, you're providing for yourself, but by having support from another source but yourself. it's sad but true. you wanna eliminate laziness? that's an inherently separate issue from eliminating support programs. you wanna eliminate the support for people to reap the benefits from, lazily, that's a separate issue as well. isn't it? i don't know man, i'm just speculating.
Unemployment as it was previously constituted before the Obama administration sent it into the stratosphere was entirely self funded. If you take welfare you are not providing for yourself.
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you can argue that if you steal some food that you're not providing for yourself, but that someone is providing for you. but where do you draw the line? isn't the Earth and the Sun providing more for us then anyone person can provide for themselves? but that's just hyperbole; my point is more that... if you steal, you might be taking from someone else's ability to provide for themselves, but in turn you can argue that you're ALSO providing for yourself; like a Lioness eating one of her cubs. 
whatever, i am not for laziness (though i am guilty of it) or for welfare (which i am not, so goodie goodie me) i'm just speculating again, like i said. don't think i'm trying to argue for my sake. it's just interesting, is all.
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What have you produced when you steal? You have in fact thwarted production and thus not only not provided for yourself (you will probably go to jail and be a ward of the state) but you have destroyed something that might have been better spent elsewhere (cop preventing a rape by more vigilant patrol) and the ability of the victim to productively provide for himself.
Let's not try to get too cute, shall we?
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Re: do rich people... [Re: zappaisgod] 1
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i don't really care man. i mean, if it's provided, it's providing. if someone leaves some bread out... and you take the bread. yes, it's wrong. i get that. but it's also that the bread is being made available for use; by you taking it, it becomes your provision... even if wasn't yours to begin with. obviously wrong, but it's still providing.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: pwnasaurus] 2
#19106595 - 11/08/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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don't think my logic is irefutable. go ahead. make your point. oh wait. you don't have one, you just wanna pander. WAH WAH WAH
you could say it was provided for by the person who owned the bread, if it was given. if you take it and it was never provided for, it's stealing... alas though, it still becomes the thieve's provision, as you "stealing" it, makes it yours; at least to a thief, it becomes "theirs", hence their provision.
plus, this is more or less a semantic argument... Pwn. you should probably pull the stick out of your ... you know... hey, wait, i thought you were ignoring me. wth man?
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Re: do rich people... [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#19106665 - 11/08/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Then why is half the entire country receiving government benefits of one kind or another?
Because that is the point of having a country and government. People banded together for their own benefit.
If you want a real answer, maybe you should look at the debate over the minimum wage. We know about the 10ish% of the pop. that are unemployed. So, by your calculations, whats the matter with the 40% of the country that has a job but needs gov help to make ends meet? They work so its obviously not pure laziness, as you're oft to repeat, that is the issue.
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zappaisgod said: If you take welfare you are not providing for yourself.
Yea, you're providing for your children instead. Although, in most cases, the tax burden you pay your entire life covers any stretches of financial trouble you might happen to go through.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: Lynnch] 1
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so it's not a black and white issue? my God.
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zappaisgod said: Then why is half the entire country receiving government benefits of one kind or another?
Because that is the point of having a country and government. People banded together for their own benefit.
There is no overall societal benefit in subsidizing sloth and failureQuote:
If you want a real answer, maybe you should look at the debate over the minimum wage. We know about the 10ish% of the pop. that are unemployed. So, by your calculations, whats the matter with the 40% of the country that has a job but needs gov help to make ends meet? They work so its obviously not pure laziness, as you're oft to repeat, that is the issue.
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zappaisgod said: If you take welfare you are not providing for yourself.
Yea, you're providing for your children instead. Although, in most cases, the tax burden you pay your entire life covers any stretches of financial trouble you might happen to go through.
The government has never provided me with any help in financial trouble. Unemployment insurance is NOT, or at least not until recently, government help. It used to be a fully funded by employers' insurance program. No taxpayer dollars were involved.
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and now, not? what changed?
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It used to be 26 weeks at half pay up to a maximum per week. The half pay stayed but the 26 weeks became 100. It was not funded for 100 week eventualities.
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so then they stopped because of these eventualities? the lack of foresight caused them to stop, so now who pays for Unemployment?
i'm probably misunderstanding this, i thought i'd get an even simpler answer then that... there should be a emoticon for a plane flying over head, because that's what happened here.
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akira_akuma said: so then they stopped because of these eventualities? the lack of foresight caused them to stop, so now who pays for Unemployment?
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i'm probably misunderstanding this, i thought i'd get an even simpler answer then that... there should be a emoticon for a plane flying over head, because that's what happened here.
Here's the deal. There was an unemployment insurance fund fully financed through employer contributions that provided the benefits as described, i.e. half pay, up to a maximum, for 26 weeks. Employer contribution rates were determined by their history of laying people off. If you never layed anybody off your rates went down. Further, these rates only applied to the first few thousand dollars of payroll. Thus you only had to be such and such percent on the first 6K of gross on any one employee.
In the recent expansion of the welfare state, unemployment benefits have been extended for shit turds by approximately 4 times to 100 weeks.
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in my head, i see a bunch of people getting laid off more, looking to have to find different jobs, and having to go on unemployment more often because they can't find work; thus bad for business and bad for people having to run themselves into the ground.
i still don't get this financial talk, but i think am seeing repercussions of this, in my head, from the little i do understand. am i even close to comprehending what you're saying?
basically it's a loop-de-loop of companies forking out money to pay for people's joblessness, while more people are more often getting laid off, and having to maybe even get on unemployment themselves, thus cycling the problem even more...

plus, i really suck at this shit. bad.
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I'm seeing good points on all opinions.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: dark3st]
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i really wish i could comprehend how people make up these numbers and figures and shit... i mean, it seems like a bunch of confusing random binary to me.
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A somewhat clueless point, but probably one of the better points I've seen made.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: dark3st]
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You know what's weird about this thread?
Zappis over the months has shown that republicans are the closest political party that believe in "You get out what you put in" which is what I've lived by, so I may be a republican, but I will not support any candidate until I evaluate their stances and history on all arguments/positions
Anne, is poor compared to the rich people. When she said that her fam was looked down upon by the 100 mils fams, which equates to the mil fams looking down at the 100k people 75 years ago. Which in all, doesn't even matter. If 3 people died in my family tomorrow, I could buy her's and then send them to the farms, but I value those people more than the money they have made for themselves, as should all.
and that everyone thinks their land is worth a nominal value that their bank or local government has gave it. Hint: it's worth more than the number given to it...
In closure, before I hide this thread, it doesn't matter. Do what you can to be greater than you were the previous day. Continuance of that, will procure success
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unknown1123 said: You know what's weird about this thread?
Zappis over the months has shown that republicans are the closest political party that believe in "You get out what you put in" which is what I've lived by, so I may be a republican, but I will not support any candidate until I evaluate their stances and history on all arguments/positions
Anne, is poor compared to the rich people. When she said that her fam was looked down upon by the 100 mils fams, which equates to the mil fams looking down at the 100k people 75 years ago. Which in all, doesn't even matter. If 3 people died in my family tomorrow, I could buy her's and then send them to the farms, but I value those people more than the money they have made for themselves, as should all.
and that everyone thinks their land is worth a nominal value that their bank or local government has gave it. Hint: it's worth more than the number given to it...
In closure, before I hide this thread, it doesn't matter. Do what you can to be greater than you were the previous day. Continuance of that, will procure success
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