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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: B_BOY]
    #19074593 - 11/02/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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i got some to grow outside , yes, that is all




You have what?  Spores?  A dirt mix with spores?  Good luck with that.  When you get some schlerotia let me know.

Thanks for killing the thread.  Seems what trolls do.  I just wondered how many people are unhappy with the christian prison system.


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #19074613 - 11/02/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Christian prison system argument hold no water, as it makes no sense, and dude i found 20 lbs of morels this year and have had them come up where i made a bed for 3 years, so good luck to you, i don't need luck :smile:


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #19074624 - 11/02/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Faith offends me most because it's choosing to be ignorant of any other facts which would really help you be a better person and make better choices . Therefore religion is a crutch you have to throw away to walk with the real people on this planet not some heard of sheep but individuals...


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: B_BOY]
    #19074708 - 11/02/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Christian prison system argument hold no water, as it makes no sense, and dude i found 20 lbs of morels this year and have had them come up where i made a bed for 3 years, so good luck to you, i don't need luck :smile:





Guess you have been lucky enough to stay out of court or you would understand.  I just don't tolerate very well that people of an offensive faith put me away for their own way of life. 

Very good on the morels.  If you care to share what you are doing, in my thread...please do assist your knowledge and understanding!


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #19075312 - 11/02/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I recently read that a third of Americans identify as Evangelical Christians.  Bible thumpers.  Protectors of The One and Only True Faith.

A third.

With all due respect, if ever we needed an explanation as to why the United States of America is such a fucked-up place today, there it is.


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #19075363 - 11/02/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Do church people offend you?




Not if they keep it to themselves, but as soon as they try to use it to persuade me into some type of bullshit, then I get offended. Or if they tell me I'm immoral, then they offend me.


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #19077740 - 11/02/13 11:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There is no "they," and if there is no "they," it follows that "they" are not Christian. We do not live in a theocracy, and the laws really are supposed to protect citizens. The problem is that laws are created based on erroneous information and the worldly people are all about lies. Otherwise, cigarettes would've been banned long ago. MDMA was made Schedule I after a flubbed research study at Johns Hopkins University where several Rhesus monkeys died. Unfortunately, they were given mislabeled methamphetamine, not MDMA. Nevertheless, the law was enacted based on wrong information. Cannabis prohibition goes back to the ignorant and paranoid 1930s, Harry Anslinger, and the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937. Big Pharma and the alcoholic beverage manufacturers who are enormously powerful do not want legalization to muscle-in on their territories. It is not a Christian conspiracy, it is political and money-based.

BTW, I live in the USA ad there are hundreds of religions represented here. Many do belong to Christendom, but this country is host to everything you could imagine, and everyone is free to practice whatever faith they wish under the Constitution.


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #19078215 - 11/03/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I go outside and see atheists who at least know they don't believe in God, then I go to church and see atheists who think they believe in God, but they know him not...  Christians who take it on themselves to judge others all the time instead of examining themselves are not real Christians by definition, though no one is perfect, and we all have judged another person at some point in life.   

Christianity is the standard belief system for America????  As a Christian, I can't take that statement seriously.  Maybe 1 in 3 people 'SAY' they're Christians, but I know the real number is a WHOLE lot lower than that.
 
Non believers outweigh believers by a large margin in this current time period.  You don't need statistics on this either.  Just look at the world around you.


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #19078343 - 11/03/13 01:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I live in America and Christianity is the accepted nature of spirituality.  I must admit I am a little offended.  We live in a modern world and I have accepted death as being very similiar to certain drugs.  I keep thinking when I am exposed to church people, that they will be surprised when they die.  They won't go onto a world at all like this one, or with jesus being anymore than a hallucination.  I find it offensive that they made illegal things more truthful than what they impose on others.  Talking drugs here.  Not meth or crack, which they think all drugs are like.  But the ones that make you feel like your dying, in a really light and spiritual way.

Are you offended by what remains in power over our freedoms?  These old beliefs that jesus is the only way to find goodness?

I am all for whatever gets people through life, but religion seems to impose beliefs on others.  I know you can take certain drugs and live a good life.  A life with more insight, intensity and passion.  Most laws in America are highly influenced by christan modes of thought.  Do you find this offensive?  Do you think the war of cultures, based on a war of spiritual beliefs to be wrong?

Feel free to rant.




I could adjust my reality to make attending church a worthwhile experience, if the churchians would shut the fuck up. Perhaps they could pray silently and preach in Latin, this would work. Those ones that think they have some truth that they have to convince me of really kill the buzz. I wish I could go to church, I just don't have any contacts, so fucking hard to get anywhere without contacts. Yeah I am offended by the retarded-ness of churchians.


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #19078589 - 11/03/13 01:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I live in America and christianity is the accepted nature of spirituality.  I must admit I am a little offended.  We live in a modern world and I have accepted death as being very similiar to certain drugs.  I keep thinking when I am exposed to church people, that they will be surprised when they die.  They won't go onto a world at all like this one, or with jesus being anymore than a hallucination.  I find it offensive that they made illegal things more truthful than what they impose on others.  Talking drugs here.  Not meth or crack, which they think all drugs are like.  But the ones that make you feel like your dying, in a really light and spiritual way.

Are you offended by what remains in power over our freedoms?  These old beliefs that jesus is the only way to find goodness?

I am all for whatever gets people through life, but religion seems to impose beliefs on others.  I know you can take certain drugs and live a good life.  A life with more insight, intensity and passion.  Most laws in America are highly influenced by christan modes of thought.  Do you find this offensive?  Do you think the war of cultures, based on a war of spiritual beliefs to be wrong?

Feel free to rant.




Nope, I try not to take it personally. I see humanity as damaged goods, running very complex 2013 cultural software on paleolithic hardware. :monkeydance:


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19078601 - 11/03/13 01:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

so i think i'm going to start an atheist church to help people from the crutches of religion and make people better people.....
who's in??


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: lighthouse09]
    #19078855 - 11/03/13 05:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Can't really practice any sort of drug based shamanism.  That seems to be what I have chosen.  Religious freedom has been enhanced, as the native Americans can use peyote.

I have family that goes to church.  They really believe that there will be no states of heaven for a non-believer.  They say some things that I find offensivley stupid.  It's too early right now to bring up anything specific.  I'm just glad I don't have to go to church, and play make believe with all the other delusionals.

Cause if your belief is wrong, your delusional.  I firmly believe in brain sciences, explaining why we have spiritual experiences.  Not that the universe has less to offer than what the average brain percieves.


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #19093270 - 11/05/13 11:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm gonna rant a little on the thread I opened in the Philosophy forum.  I just give up on proselytizing of any sort.  Whatever belief or lack there-of, why must you convince others your right? 
I'm not necessarily talking about people that share their personal views in the context of a natural conversation.  I'm talking about the people that just have to let it be known that they  found the right God or brand of Nihilism.
Its sort of why I've always admired Buddhism. 
I mean reality itself is entirely subjective.  You can change belief systems and reality tunnels and essentially get to the same place in the end. In fact some rather interesting people have written on the subject.  Aliester Crowley in particular would completely change his entire belief system up in his younger days from time to time to see which ones held water.  wrote pretty interesting accounts on attaining spiritual development vica vi fluctuating alternative paths.
I guess my point is why the jimmy rustlin'?:jimmies:


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #19093517 - 11/06/13 12:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I am a buddhist and a mystic hindu in my daily practice, but I also enjoy going to church, reading the bible and praying in a christian tradition. I like to get high, or drunk, or do other drugs and attend church services and take communion. I really want to make church attendance a weekly thing. Its hard to get up early enough in the morning though.

I dont 'believe" in what most people think christians believe in, but I value the experience of church attendance. I think it is a form of spiritual food.

In sociology of aging at university we learned that church attending people tend to live an average of 7 years longer than non-church attenders, even when other variables are controlled for. That is an astonishing increase of life expectancy that is directly causally related to church attendance. This strongly suggests that church attendance is highly worth while even from a strictly health and medical perspective, strange as that certainly is.


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19093619 - 11/06/13 01:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If I live to be 90, idk that I'll care enough to have an extra 7 years to burden people with my cryptic presence.


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: cez]
    #19093628 - 11/06/13 01:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Generally speaking more life is good. Especially if you have loved ones.

And there is no guarantee you will live to 90, but if you go to church you have a much better chance of doing so then if you don't.


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19096334 - 11/06/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I understand that stories can be a basis for personal insight and growth.  However I don't buy that shit as a real thing that happened.  Anyone can make up stories, I prefer movies.  I believe in Hollywood more than I do any religion.  At least they don't do only fiction.


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #19097631 - 11/06/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No, but really bro, there was a talking snake... And frealz women were made from a male rib because when lillith was equal she wanted to fuck on top.

Now she.litteraly is the cause of sids.

Really, its in there.
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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: Yogi1]
    #19098461 - 11/06/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I read the entire bible cover to cover. It was a brutal, grueling, arduous task but I did it and I am glad I did.


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Re: Do church people offend you? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19099116 - 11/07/13 06:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I am a buddhist and a mystic hindu in my daily practice, but I also enjoy going to church, reading the bible and praying in a christian tradition. I like to get high, or drunk, or do other drugs and attend church services and take communion. I really want to make church attendance a weekly thing. Its hard to get up early enough in the morning though.

I dont 'believe" in what most people think christians believe in, but I value the experience of church attendance. I think it is a form of spiritual food.

In sociology of aging at university we learned that church attending people tend to live an average of 7 years longer than non-church attenders, even when other variables are controlled for. That is an astonishing increase of life expectancy that is directly causally related to church attendance. This strongly suggests that church attendance is highly worth while even from a strictly health and medical perspective, strange as that certainly is.





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