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Quote: 10mg ER doesn't do shit. That's why I get the 15mg ERs and supplement them with half a 10mg IR at T=0 and T~+4hrs.Honestly, dexedrine has much less feels than adderall, even if it's more potent. It's the levoamphetamine in adderall that makes you so . IMO and IME tolerance for amphetamines is 100% psychological; the moment you decide you like something about the way it makes you feel, the nature of the drug itself puts that feeling in the background and you automatically want more and more, even if it's still working at max capacity. If you don't let it run away from you, your tolerance stays put. If you DO let it run away from you, a tolerance break will fix it up right quick-- assuming you're after something other than the high, which only feels so good the first time because it's unfamiliar. No tolerance break is enough to get high from 10mg unless you're extremely sensitive.Quote: ^ It's kind of astonishing to me how often I hear people on the Shroomery casually talking about popping 60-120 mg or even larger doses of adderall. You're really not supposed to use it that way. I'm not saying that to be judgmental or patronizing, taking that much is its own punishment. The more you take, the shittier you're ultimately going to feel when you inevitably stop. The smart thing to do is to stop every day-- preferably around the early afternoon so you'll have an appetite by dinnertime, but now I'm just being a hypocrite.
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Yeah I have done over 200mg of adderall in a day, it's not that bad, but it can get pretty irritating.
btw I'm pretty sure most people know you're not supposed to take a large amount of adderall, just like most other drugs, but people like being high.
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I'm also no stranger to massive doses, actually larger than that... it's definitely a bad idea and not something to play with. All I can say in my defense is that I only ever did that, specifically for play, the kind that demands immediate quarantine from all other human beings, followed by a week of recovery. And hopefully the realization that you should never do this again. Hopefully.
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Quote: Having not touched amphetamines or any stimulant for that matter in over a year, 10mg up the nose should have atleast gave me an energy boost.
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A week for recovery? What, are you elderly?
You stay high for like 36-56 hours, then crash out, then wake up like 12 hours later fine. You just gotta stay hydrated and eat healthy, which can be difficult to do. I do not reccomend abusing adderall though, it can get out of control pretty fast.
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Quote: Yeah, I know. I was speaking in idealized terms. Theoretically, you can go back to your business after you crash; but sometimes you can't crash on time, for example, and other times you just don't crash enough. You can still push through your responsibilities in the day after by taking maybe 1.5x your normal dose of the stuff and drinking extra coffee. But it sucks, you're a trainwreck on the inside whether you want to acknowledge it or not, and the only way to get back to baseline is rest and relaxation that might not be readily available. Abusing this stuff is something that should never be done, but if it was done and under ideal circumstances, you would have a week to get your shit back together.
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I noticed that when going without sleep, you can only recover so much in one night. Like first night of sleep you are rested 50%, then 80% the second night, then 100% the third night. It's not really noticeable if you stay up less than 48 hours though. Back to back all nighters will catch up with you if you only rest one night between.
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By the way #3, I don't know how old you are, but I'm 27. I'm guessing you're either younger; failing that, you might be an idiot.
FYI, you don't need a "balanced diet" to recover, you just need shitloads upon shitloads of protein, possibly leavened by a bit of fiber. If you're bouncing back prematurely, you'll need sugar too. Vitamins and piracetam couldn't hurt. But it's necessary to floss and brush thoroughly and to take a serious shower and wash everything you'd been wearing and y'know, whatever. While recovering. You might need a second shower ~12 hours after the first to fully remove the refractory grease that exudes from your pores and permeates your hair, clothing, and bedsheets. Don't forget to pick up protein shakes, since chewing solid food will strain your jaw and sting your bleeding gums worse than the ache you get in your gut the moment after you force anything down your clenched esophagus. And heaven forbid you chewed your lip and got a fucking canker sore. Give me a fucking week, okay? Denial ain't a river in Egypt. Edited by Anonymous (11/06/13 10:35 PM)
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Quote: I'm 21, and I usually find a good meal and a glass or two of juice to suffice, as well as water & lots of it, to work. I don't have a problem eating after a binge, I just usually don't feel like it. and yeah I agree with the brushing & showering part, you gotta get rid of the amp mouth and get all the sweat off of you.
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Keep it up and you might just find you're not able to get much farther than you've already gotten.
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explain what you mean?I've already gone really as far as I can with adderall. Next: on to meth.
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Talk to me when you're 27.
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I will, as long as you're still here, I'll bump this thread on my 27th birthday!
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A pact it is, then. Let us and the Shroomery all survive long enough to fulfill it!
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Quote: I don't believe I am ADD but I do take addy. Here's my story and I think it is well worth reading if you are considering taking this. I have always been super apathetic, even as a child. Nothing really seemed to get me going. I do love to learn but since I graduated and started working full time (about 15 years ago), there's not much time for learning. I graduated HS early and got a job making a ton of money. I thought, what the hell is the point of college.... How I wish I could go back and redo things. Any case, I got married at a young age and have 3 beautiful children and a beautiful wife (way out of me league). Now I see things more clearly, perhaps more maturely, but I can't go back and change anything. I am blessed with a good job, I make decent money (I do work my ass off though). But, to be completely honest, I don't really care for what I do. I don't want to sound ungrateful; I know there are far worse jobs that require more work for less pay, but there again, I can lie to everyone, but I can't lie to myself and believe it. I get no fulfillment out of it. Making good money at a young age can be a very dangerous thing. I really had no grasp of reality and how hard most people have to work to earn the same amount (about 100k). Earning that much money from a young age has turned into golden handcuffs. I have acquired, my wife and children have acquired, a certain lifestyle and even if I wanted to walk away from it tomorrow I couldn't because I am up to my eyeballs in debt, and if I were completely honest, I am fearful at some level that my relationship with my wife would not ever be the same. Long story short, I came across 15 MG XR by chance one day about 2 years ago, and figured, what the hell, so I took it. I felt AMAZING.... I had an incredible amount of energy. I was engaged in everything, I did not have to pretend that I wanted to talk to people because I really did want to talk to them. I felt confident, excited, focused, no anxiety etc... I had a great day at work and really felt like I cared for the job itself. Then, about 10 hours later I crashed. It wasn't a real big deal, just got sleepy. But, all of that confidence, all of that focus, all of that drive, all of the engagement crashed too. I was back to my normal crappy self. While on adderall I was the guy I always wanted and strived to be, and it came so naturally. So, needless to say, I was on a quest to get a prescription for this stuff. I read some stuff on the internet, educated myself about ADD, and got a feel for what to say to the doc. It wasn't as easy to get as I thought it would be though. Initially, the doc said I sounded depressed (which I agree with), so he prescribed a anti-depression med. I took that for about 2 months, really actually hoping that it would lift this fog I continually lived in. Well, it didn't change a thing other than making it difficult to sleep. So, he then prescribed and anti-anxiety med (I have always been super anxious) and while that did help considerably with the anxiety, I felt so incredibly stoned and all I wanted to do was sleep. He then prescribed a a non-stimulant ADD med which did nothing other than give me wicked headaches. He then suggested I see a psychiatrist. The psych doc started me out with a low does of Ritilan. That was very weak compared to what I experienced with addy but it was certainly better than nothing. It did give me mild, dull headaches but it was worth the tradeoff. After about a year of trying all of that crap and describing the side effects they gave me, he finally prescribed 15 mg of adderall. Finally I thought, that took forever. I started taking it and man, life was great. I had that same "special feeling" that I got the first time I took it. I excelled at work, at home, physically, and in every other area. I lost weight and looked good. My relationship with my wife actually improved significantly because I was more engaged, more confident, less anxious etc... As crazy as it sounds, I felt like it was a prayer answered. I wasn't thrilled about taking an amphetamine for the rest of my life, in fact, in some weird justification I thought I would only take it for maybe 6 months or so, just enough to get my life "back on track". Well, I've been taking it ever since (maybe a year and a half now), and the old adage "every good thing must come to an end" is so true. I am up to 30 mg xr a day because it just does not have the same effect it use to. I tell my doc that it doesn't seem to be working as well and I really think I could get him to go to 40 a day but I realize now that that is a very short term solution that will eventually make the inevitable harder to deal with. The glorious effects I experienced at first slowly started to diminish over time. I found myself needing more and more to experience the same "high", and now I take 30 a day and it doesn't affect me hardly at all. I feel myself slowly fading back to who I "use" to be even while on it. My memory has gone to shit and I am worried if I stop taking it I will gain 50 lbs and be worse off than I was before I even started taking it. I really am not sure what to do; logically, I know I should get off of it and just deal with it, but that is easier said than done. I skip a day here and there but all I want to do is sleep, and I eat like a pig. It is truly discouraging. Honestly, it is why I started to experiment with "other" things just hoping it will expand my consciousness, hoping it will help me to see the bigger picture, hoping it will give me insight that will make this detachment from adderall easier. I took shrooms once when I was 16 while at a party. I thought it was one of the coolest experiences ever. At that point in time, society had done a very good job of impressing upon my young moldable mind the "dangers" of any drug (well, except alcohol and cigarettes ironically), so I figured I should never do shrooms again because I liked it so much. And, I actually hadn't done it since, that is, until 3 or 4 months ago. My buddy had some, and I am not the same person as that 16 year old was. I have matured significantly in my view of reality, in my view of ego, in my view of the "amerikan dream" etc... So, we ate them. I'm not even sure how much I ate; I think it was half an 8th. It was just enough for some closed eye visuals, but I remembered how amazing and incredibly deep reality actually is, and how much we don't even perceive because of all of our self-imposed distractions, self-imposed prisons. Any ways, I really feel like this will help me in the battle I am about to face of separating myself from amphetamines. I have tried everything from self-help books (gobs of them), to counseling (went once a week for about 9 months), to religion etc... and the crazy thing is I feel more at peace than I ever have when I disassociate myself from all of that crap (I believe religion can be very dangerous but spirituality is something completely different). Reading back through this I kind of feel like it sounds whiny and spoiled; perhaps it is, but I am just trying to be honest with the intent of helping my fellow man. Good luck- be careful with that stuff; it is not something that should be taken lightly. Peace and love!
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Quote: If you wake up 12 hours later feeling fine then you haven't been abusing it much. When I first used adderall I could wake up feeling fine but eventually the entire "high" turned into a comedown and I felt like shit all the time. I didn't realize how shitty I actually felt till I was off the drug for a few months.
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Quote: tl:dr I'm not trying to be rude but people(including myself) hate reading walls of text like that. try breaking it up a little... I had to do this to read it. "I have always been super apathetic, even as a child. Nothing really seemed to get me going. I do love to learn but since I graduated and started working full time (about 15 years ago), there's not much time for learning. I graduated HS early and got a job making a ton of money. I thought, what the hell is the point of college.... How I wish I could go back and redo things. Any case, I got married at a young age and have 3 beautiful children and a beautiful wife (way out of me league). Now I see things more clearly, perhaps more maturely, but I can't go back and change anything. I am blessed with a good job, I make decent money (I do work my ass off though). But, to be completely honest, I don't really care for what I do. I don't want to sound ungrateful; I know there are far worse jobs that require more work for less pay, but there again, I can lie to everyone, but I can't lie to myself and believe it. I get no fulfillment out of it. Making good money at a young age can be a very dangerous thing. I really had no grasp of reality and how hard most people have to work to earn the same amount (about 100k). Earning that much money from a young age has turned into golden handcuffs. I have acquired, my wife and children have acquired, a certain lifestyle and even if I wanted to walk away from it tomorrow I couldn't because I am up to my eyeballs in debt, and if I were completely honest, I am fearful at some level that my relationship with my wife would not ever be the same. Long story short, I came across 15 MG XR by chance one day about 2 years ago, and figured, what the hell, so I took it. I felt AMAZING.... I had an incredible amount of energy. I was engaged in everything, I did not have to pretend that I wanted to talk to people because I really did want to talk to them. I felt confident, excited, focused, no anxiety etc... I had a great day at work and really felt like I cared for the job itself. Then, about 10 hours later I crashed. It wasn't a real big deal, just got sleepy. But, all of that confidence, all of that focus, all of that drive, all of the engagement crashed too. I was back to my normal crappy self. While on adderall I was the guy I always wanted and strived to be, and it came so naturally. So, needless to say, I was on a quest to get a prescription for this stuff. I read some stuff on the internet, educated myself about ADD, and got a feel for what to say to the doc. It wasn't as easy to get as I thought it would be though. Initially, the doc said I sounded depressed (which I agree with), so he prescribed a anti-depression med. I took that for about 2 months, really actually hoping that it would lift this fog I continually lived in. Well, it didn't change a thing other than making it difficult to sleep. So, he then prescribed and anti-anxiety med (I have always been super anxious) and while that did help considerably with the anxiety, I felt so incredibly stoned and all I wanted to do was sleep. He then prescribed a a non-stimulant ADD med which did nothing other than give me wicked headaches. He then suggested I see a psychiatrist. The psych doc started me out with a low does of Ritilan. That was very weak compared to what I experienced with addy but it was certainly better than nothing. It did give me mild, dull headaches but it was worth the tradeoff. After about a year of trying all of that crap and describing the side effects they gave me, he finally prescribed 15 mg of adderall. Finally I thought, that took forever. I started taking it and man, life was great. I had that same "special feeling" that I got the first time I took it. I excelled at work, at home, physically, and in every other area. I lost weight and looked good. My relationship with my wife actually improved significantly because I was more engaged, more confident, less anxious etc... As crazy as it sounds, I felt like it was a prayer answered. I wasn't thrilled about taking an amphetamine for the rest of my life, in fact, in some weird justification I thought I would only take it for maybe 6 months or so, just enough to get my life "back on track". Well, I've been taking it ever since (maybe a year and a half now), and the old adage "every good thing must come to an end" is so true. I am up to 30 mg xr a day because it just does not have the same effect it use to. I tell my doc that it doesn't seem to be working as well and I really think I could get him to go to 40 a day but I realize now that that is a very short term solution that will eventually make the inevitable harder to deal with. The glorious effects I experienced at first slowly started to diminish over time. I found myself needing more and more to experience the same "high", and now I take 30 a day and it doesn't affect me hardly at all. I feel myself slowly fading back to who I "use" to be even while on it. My memory has gone to shit and I am worried if I stop taking it I will gain 50 lbs and be worse off than I was before I even started taking it. I really am not sure what to do; logically, I know I should get off of it and just deal with it, but that is easier said than done. I skip a day here and there but all I want to do is sleep, and I eat like a pig. It is truly discouraging. Honestly, it is why I started to experiment with "other" things just hoping it will expand my consciousness, hoping it will help me to see the bigger picture, hoping it will give me insight that will make this detachment from adderall easier. I took shrooms once when I was 16 while at a party. I thought it was one of the coolest experiences ever. At that point in time, society had done a very good job of impressing upon my young moldable mind the "dangers" of any drug (well, except alcohol and cigarettes ironically), so I figured I should never do shrooms again because I liked it so much. And, I actually hadn't done it since, that is, until 3 or 4 months ago. My buddy had some, and I am not the same person as that 16 year old was. I have matured significantly in my view of reality, in my view of ego, in my view of the "amerikan dream" etc... So, we ate them. I'm not even sure how much I ate; I think it was half an 8th. It was just enough for some closed eye visuals, but I remembered how amazing and incredibly deep reality actually is, and how much we don't even perceive because of all of our self-imposed distractions, self-imposed prisons. Any ways, I really feel like this will help me in the battle I am about to face of separating myself from amphetamines. I have tried everything from self-help books (gobs of them), to counseling (went once a week for about 9 months), to religion etc... and the crazy thing is I feel more at peace than I ever have when I disassociate myself from all of that crap (I believe religion can be very dangerous but spirituality is something completely different). Reading back through this I kind of feel like it sounds whiny and spoiled; perhaps it is, but I am just trying to be honest with the intent of helping my fellow man. Good luck- be careful with that stuff; it is not something that should be taken lightly. Peace and love!" I know you said it's hard, but instead of taking them most days and occasionally not taking them, try reversing that. Try not taking them most days, and only take them when you absolutely have to. Like when you have a big workload. Amphetamines are notorious for losing their "magic" with habitual use. Abstinence is the only to get that "magic" back, and that doesn't always work, and it can take a very long time sometimes. I'm pretty sure that I have ADD, but I don't want a script for two reasons... 1. I'd end up abusing them. 2. I don't want the "magic" to be lost. I wish I could trust myself to only use them when I really need to, that would help so much. I highly suggest you don't do this because it comes with many risks and abstaining from the Adderall is a much better route to go, but... You could try and get presciribed Desoxyn (Methamphetamine Hydrochloride) They rarely prescribe that, but you're pretty much out of options, so they may consider it. Or here's an even worse idea... Just buy crystal methamphetamine and treat yourself with it. If you can stick to strictly therapeutic doses, 5-20mg(.005-.02grams) you can get a gram for ~$100 so that's only ~$0.50-$2.00 per dose. But you have to really have some good self-control.. If you are not 100% sure wheteher or not you can limit yourself do not do this, you will end up a slave to the drug in no time at all, especially if you make decent money. p.s. I'm on 100mg of Adderall right now, and I got anthoer 120mg to do before the days end...
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Quote: 1. It's obvious you already abuse Adderall, so smart of you to not get a script. 2. I think the magic is already lost for you if you have to take a massive 220 mg to get your desired effects... come on man, that's WAY TOO MUCH.
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Quote: I abuse it on the rare occasions I can get it. Honestly I'm feeling' pretty good off this 100mg still, I haven't took any more yet, idk I might end up taking it, might not.
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That's why I get the 15mg ERs and supplement them with half a 10mg IR at T=0 and T~+4hrs.
. IMO and IME tolerance for amphetamines is 100% psychological; the moment you decide you like something about the way it makes you feel, the nature of the drug itself puts that feeling in the background and you automatically want more and more, even if it's still working at max capacity. If you don't let it run away from you, your tolerance stays put. If you DO let it run away from you, a tolerance break will fix it up right quick-- assuming you're after something other than the high, which only feels so good the first time because it's unfamiliar. No tolerance break is enough to get high from 10mg unless you're extremely sensitive.
explain what you mean?

