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The Government is losing the war on weed
    #19097261 - 11/06/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



They may as well call quits on the war on weed at this point.     

Seems that more states are legalizing it slowly but surely.

There doesn't seem to be as much of a fight from the Government about it anymore either. I think they realize they pretty much lost on the issue now that most people are for legalizing.



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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: skatealex2]
    #19097266 - 11/06/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The war on weed is over in my home state :aweohyou: :goodluck: :jah:


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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: Magicman69] * 4
    #19097283 - 11/06/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The government lost the war on weed in 1937


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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: skatealex2]
    #19097301 - 11/06/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Lol I don't understand this? So if you have a town of like 38 people you can legalize weed for your town?


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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19097311 - 11/06/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My government gave up on weed long ago, they just bust a grower once in while to keep up the image that its doing something about it.


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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: Magicman69]
    #19097316 - 11/06/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Magicman69 said:
The war on weed is over in my home state :aweohyou: :goodluck: :jah:




:whathesaid:

And the bud in op looks so incredibly delicious.


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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: Enjoywho]
    #19097336 - 11/06/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think it's funny that for me, and many of my friends, it's easier to get mj than it is liquor. That just shows that regulating the sale is more effective than prohibiting it. At least in my case.


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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: dontknow]
    #19097527 - 11/06/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Pretty much. I always could get pot before 21. I'd have to find a buyer which could be a pain sometimes.


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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: Enjoywho]
    #19097561 - 11/06/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, I can get alcohol but I have to call up 10 people and see who's free and willing to drive to the store with me. I rarely go out of my way to get alcohol though, just drink when I'm offered it.


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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: skatealex2] * 1
    #19097695 - 11/06/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This is a rather cynical take on it imo, with implied tones of us versus them mentality. What's really going on is democracy in action.

Before the public kept voting in the politicians who ran on the Hard On Drugs ticket, so ofc the politicians kept the wheels turning. Now that the majority of the American people no longer support marijuana criminalization and are voting it out, politicians are realizing that if they want to keep their jobs they will have to side with the voters. All of the stoners who repeated the tired cliche that voting doesn't work are soon going to be inhaling their words.

With any luck it will wake people up to the fact that they can change their situation at the ballot box, even though it takes getting involved at local and state levels. Democracy is not dead. 'Merica is still fuck yeahing.


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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #19098133 - 11/06/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

lol I live in maine the pot isnt really legal, its actually kinda confusing. the city legalized it on a state level but its still illegal on a federal level. I think they just did that to make the penalties for getting caught a little less:shrug: A lot of people are misunderstanding it lol


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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: kinkaku]
    #19098162 - 11/06/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

try living in Texas people, I just got stuck with 15 months probation, 1000 dollar fine, 50 hours community service, and a drug offender program for getting busted with less than a gram of weed. :nonono:

Down here you would never guess that it's legal in other parts of the country.


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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: mushroom_sandwich] * 2
    #19101394 - 11/07/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If america looks like it is losing the war on drugs it's because it wants to appear so.

You have to look at the possible agenda behind this. If america truly wanted weed to be illegal forever, it wouldn't be a challenge... remember the previous decades?

Honestly do you think the powers that be are sweating at the thought of what a bunch of marijuana users want at the end of the day? No, you are not intimidating...

Maybe back in the sixties, when people read books, when people weren't glued to the electronics. Maybe it wasn't a good idea to let everyone in on this mind expansion substance, at that time.

But now? We are so pacified, fear stricken, controlled, paralyzed, cynical about any change that giving us psychotic drugs will only enhance the paranoia and increase our passivity.

Thus, this isn't the result of activism, or democracy. It's only becoming more and more accepted, because the powers that be want it to be this way... not because people held some rallies.

Fact is. Marijuana is an incredibly useful tool for the government to use on it's citizens. Especially when used on youth, it has such a high chance of making that child completely lose their direction. Spoken from experience and regret.

No one here can deny that recreational drugs offer a gateway from reality, offering a "better" way, and that is being in the trance.

This only leads you away from the truly important things in life, the things that matter. This is vitally important to the powers that be, an intelligent, healthy, challenging, demanding population is frightening to the powers that be. This is why we're dumbed down at every turn. Introducing a psychoactive substance available in mass quantities is going to do no good to this already immature and underdeveloped generation. Not to mention how downhill it will go from here. Masses of hazed out pacifists who don't have the testosterone to fight back seems like a mighty easy kingdom to rule to me.

Of course I have nothing agaisnt any marijuana user personally. Infact I'm about to smoke a bowl after hitting submit. I do enjoy playing devils advocate and offering a different perspective hopefully invoking some thought.


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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: Thulean] * 1
    #19101452 - 11/07/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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If america looks like it is losing the war on drugs it's because it wants to appear so.

You have to look at the possible agenda behind this. If america truly wanted weed to be illegal forever, it wouldn't be a challenge... remember the previous decades?

Honestly do you think the powers that be are sweating at the thought of what a bunch of marijuana users want at the end of the day? No, you are not intimidating...

Maybe back in the sixties, when people read books, when people weren't glued to the electronics. Maybe it wasn't a good idea to let everyone in on this mind expansion substance, at that time.

But now? We are so pacified, fear stricken, controlled, paralyzed, cynical about any change that giving us psychotic drugs will only enhance the paranoia and increase our passivity.

Thus, this isn't the result of activism, or democracy. It's only becoming more and more accepted, because the powers that be want it to be this way... not because people held some rallies.

Fact is. Marijuana is an incredibly useful tool for the government to use on it's citizens. Especially when used on youth, it has such a high chance of making that child completely lose their direction. Spoken from experience and regret.

No one here can deny that recreational drugs offer a gateway from reality, offering a "better" way, and that is being in the trance.

This only leads you away from the truly important things in life, the things that matter. This is vitally important to the powers that be, an intelligent, healthy, challenging, demanding population is frightening to the powers that be. This is why we're dumbed down at every turn. Introducing a psychoactive substance available in mass quantities is going to do no good to this already immature and underdeveloped generation. Not to mention how downhill it will go from here. Masses of hazed out pacifists who don't have the testosterone to fight back seems like a mighty easy kingdom to rule to me.

Of course I have nothing agaisnt any marijuana user personally. Infact I'm about to smoke a bowl after hitting submit. I do enjoy playing devils advocate and offering a different perspective hopefully invoking some thought.






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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: Thulean]
    #19101458 - 11/07/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Cops don't want to waste time, no one in their right mind cares enough to do anything rash enough to stop it in it's tracks.

When I was younger my parents hated it, but then I turned 18 and over night my mom was fine with it. A lot of younger or culture infused parents would rather their kids smoke pot at that age.


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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: skatealex2]
    #19101484 - 11/07/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Keeping weed illegal is RETARDED. I can't express with words how foolish, counter-intuitive, hypocritical, evil, immoral, stupid, and ridiculous the whole ordeal is.

Marijuana rights should be treated the same way as gay rights. All gays want is to be able to suck cock in peace. That's all right with me- we allow them to do so because it doesn't harm anybody, they are consenting adults, and they're allowed to do whatever the FUCK they want. Why can't we view weed with the same mentality. If I want to spend my days hitting my glass pipe, WHY AM I LEGALLY NOT ALLOWED TO. Why do I have to worry about being charged with ridiculous fines, having to do volunteer work, or even getting arrested for possessing a substance that has no addictive properties, doesn't make me impaired, and doesn't harm anybody else!

How on earth is alcohol legal. Have you heard people's stories of excessive alcohol consumption? How crazy, dangerous, harmful, stupid, and violent they can get? Alcohol takes away your inhibition, do people not realize how dangerous that is? Weed is the direct opposite! Gah! If you give somebody enough drinks, you literally take away their human qualities and create an animal that operates on instincts and momentary urges. Have you seen the violence drunk people can commit? The riots they can stir up?

Which drug is more dangerous? The drug that literally makes you stop giving a shit about everything or the drug that makes you analyze your life and become mellow and in sync with the good vibes? Jesus christ, people are dumb.

And don't even get me started on tobacco.....

I can't wait for the day it gets legalized to the point where I can puff it into a cop's face. I don't understand, for the life of me, why people, WHO HAVE NO CLUE about what weed is even like, get to vote! "Hey uhhhh, I've never tried this substance, I have no idea how it makes me feel, how it compares to alcohol or cigarettes,  how good the sensory enhancement really is....but uhhhh I vote to keep it illegal even though it isn't addictive or harmful." FUCK YOU.


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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19101764 - 11/07/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: Alexestalex]
    #19101794 - 11/07/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

For the same reason you can vote on the topic of abortion without having had one, others get to vote on weed without having tried it.

Democracy caters to the majority, the tokers of the US have finally convinced the majority that it's ok, so now the tide is turning.

Everybody wants to act like the gubment hates the people and enacted the War on Drugs to fuck the people, but really the gubment is a reflection of the people, and we've just happened to be fucking ourselves in the mirror for the last 70 years.


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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #19101798 - 11/07/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: The Government is losing the war on weed [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #19101835 - 11/07/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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For the same reason you can vote on the topic of abortion without having had one, others get to vote on weed without having tried it.

Democracy caters to the majority, the tokers of the US have finally convinced the majority that it's ok, so now the tide is turning.

Everybody wants to act like the gubment hates the people and enacted the War on Drugs to fuck the people, but really the gubment is a reflection of the people, and we've just happened to be fucking ourselves in the mirror for the last 70 years.




The topic of abortion is a different ballgame. With abortion, the argument generally centers around figuring out whether a fetus is considered human or not.

With weed, there is a vast degree of objectivity when it comes to debates. We have FACTS. And these facts make perfect, logical sense but yet they remain unrecognized. Alcohol and tobacco are LEGAL substances. They are sold everywhere and TAXED. You can have 100 packs of cigarettes on your person or 20 bottles of liquor in your fridge and you are 100% legally allowed to do so. With this in mind, it's necessary to create a criteria list that a substance must meet to be legal. If there is a substance, like marijuana, that is safer than alcohol and tobacco in an OBJECTIVE WAY, it is hypocritical, immoral, and wrong to keep it illegal.

To use an analogy- imagine a society where vodka (50%) is legal but another alcohol beverage (3%) is illegal. Vodka is far more dangerous so it would make logical sense to allow the less dangerous substance to also be legal. That's how stupid the marijuana prohibition is.

It also borders on the issue of human rights. We all suddenly appear on planet earth without any prior knowledge. NOT A SINGLE HUMAN BEING, either alive or dead, has any idea what this life is entirely about, why we exist, we we're here, and so forth. With that in mind, how can we judge what is worth doing and what is considered a waste of time. To me, going to church and spending 3 hours is a complete waste of time. To another person, smoking pot is a waste of time. But why should wasting MY time be illegal? Why should I be criminalized for making myself feel good in a way that doesn't harm a single human being negatively? It's literally a BREACH of basic human rights.


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