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san pedro A/B extraction questions
    #19093597 - 11/06/13 01:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've done many extractions in the past.  But its been awhile and reading thru the post i see a lot of new info along with some old. my questions are first Ive read alot of people using a pressure cooker to speed up the cook time in making the syrup. I dont have a pressure cooker i own a pressure canner could i just run the the jars of cactus powder and  acidfied water thru the pressure canner to speed up my cook time ? And secondly i now own 3 separator funnels my thoughts were instead of mixing my non-polar solvent with my basic solution i could put my funnels on a stand one above the other filling the top one with my  aqueous solution and putting my solvent in the other two and slowly dripping the aqueous solution thru each funnelĀ getting every drop of the aqueous solution traveling thru the solvent without creating an emulsion. I don't see a reason why these wouldn't work but if anyone else has some experience with either of these. I'd love to hear your thoughts


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Re: san pedro A/B extraction questions [Re: mycomike]
    #19093632 - 11/06/13 01:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Doesn't cooking itself lower potency somewhat? So wouldn't the higher temps of the pressure cook potentially harm potency more than necessary?


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Re: san pedro A/B extraction questions [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19093703 - 11/06/13 01:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I haven't heard that before Ive always boiled down the syrup to a reasonable amount. The pressure cooker is something I just recently read about. It was to my understanding that mescaline isn't very sensitive to heat.  Is that assumption wrong ?


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Re: san pedro A/B extraction questions [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19093765 - 11/06/13 02:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
Doesn't cooking itself lower potency somewhat? So wouldn't the higher temps of the pressure cook potentially harm potency more than necessary?





Not with cactus . . .


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Re: san pedro A/B extraction questions [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19093835 - 11/06/13 02:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
Doesn't cooking itself lower potency somewhat? So wouldn't the higher temps of the pressure cook potentially harm potency more than necessary?





Not with cactus . . .



now i know

sorry for spreading mis-information :nono:


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Re: san pedro A/B extraction questions [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19093860 - 11/06/13 02:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I made syrup last month and tried it recently and it really tripped me hard. The key is to use a pressure cooker and then simmer all the liquids, simmer, don't boil. Mescaline is quiet stable.


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Re: san pedro A/B extraction questions [Re: Fungi]
    #19094001 - 11/06/13 04:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Pressure cookers and pressure canners are the same thing.


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Re: san pedro A/B extraction questions [Re: healing]
    #19094833 - 11/06/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Im also worried cause I think my pressure canner is made aluminium


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Re: san pedro A/B extraction questions [Re: mycomike]
    #19095284 - 11/06/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Get stainless steel


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Re: san pedro A/B extraction questions [Re: mycomike]
    #19096045 - 11/06/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Im also worried cause I think my pressure canner is made aluminium




Is that a problem?


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Re: san pedro A/B extraction questions [Re: healing]
    #19097459 - 11/06/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

im actually not sure if it is a problem ? i wasnt planning on putting my cactus and acid directly into the cooker/canner  i was going to jar it up but even then when your canning something you dont screw the lids down tight and so some off the evaporated liquid will escape the jars i just dont know if its enough to worry about the aluminum vessal contaminating my syrup


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Re: san pedro A/B extraction questions [Re: mycomike]
    #19097499 - 11/06/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

and no ones commented on my separtory funnel idea ?? so i can assume no ones tried it ?? i just think it would be a way to eliminate emulsions


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Re: san pedro A/B extraction questions [Re: mycomike]
    #19098592 - 11/07/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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mycomike said:
and no ones commented on my separtory funnel idea ?? so i can assume no ones tried it ?? i just think it would be a way to eliminate emulsions



if it releases gases they have to go somewhere. Make sure to release the air every once and a while


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Re: san pedro A/B extraction questions [Re: mycomike]
    #19098810 - 11/07/13 02:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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and no ones commented on my separtory funnel idea ?? so i can assume no ones tried it ?? i just think it would be a way to eliminate emulsions





Regardless it is still going to have to be mixed/swirled around so that the mesc can go into the solvent


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Re: san pedro A/B extraction questions [Re: mycomike]
    #19098944 - 11/07/13 03:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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mycomike said:
I just dont know if its enough to worry about the aluminum vessal contaminating my syrup




If that you're concern, you have nothing to worry about.


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