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Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart
    #19095629 - 11/06/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What's the word for this called?  It would be cool if someone could link me the wikipedia page for this.


This word says a lot about politicians.


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: tito123] * 2
    #19095653 - 11/06/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

it's a weird psychological phenomenon, but not entirely accurate.

smart people are ALSO SURE of their intelligence, when it suits them to be... and vice versa for dumb people. they can get away with being dumb, just as well as they can try and get away with being smart.

it's a two way street. people just use their heads to get ahead. it's not really a matter of intelligence, whether or not one uses all of ones cumulative IQ; but it is a matter of one forseeing ones possible future in the world ahead.


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: tito123]
    #19095678 - 11/06/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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tito123 said:
What's the word for this called?  It would be cool if someone could link me the wikipedia page for this.


This word says a lot about politicians.





'Self fulfillng prophesies' are a pretty normal thing. Look that up.



Here.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19095687 - 11/06/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i think its more of.. intelligent people think their not that smart because theirs an impossible amount of info to contain in this universe thus, leading them to feel like can't ever know everything, making them to feel less intelligent.  Thats how I feel a lot of the times at least. I know I'm not the most intelligent in a lot of areas though, thats for sure.

dumb people think they know everything because they just make up info and believe it to be true.


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: tripp23]
    #19095696 - 11/06/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well, true. but people make up shit all the time. sure, you can make up a study that might prove certain facts, but the main behavior of humans, even at their most "scientific", is "let me see if i can make this work" and they try, and maybe fail or succeed.

:shrug: everyone all the same, does this. it's only some people though, who'd like to think that they're impervious to mistakes. they happen to come in both flavors, i find.


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: tripp23] * 3
    #19095715 - 11/06/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Shit, I must be dumb then as I've always thought I was smarter than the average monkey I talk to.


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: Inconspicuous]
    #19095853 - 11/06/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm pretty smart and I know it. Not bragging or anything. I'm also of above average height and I'm aware of that too.


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: KremrBigSikter] * 1
    #19095868 - 11/06/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

what if you go through phases?

some days i think im smart and some days i think im retarded

does the mean some days im retarded and some days im smart?


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: tripp23] * 2
    #19095873 - 11/06/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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i think its more of.. intelligent people think their not that smart because theirs an impossible amount of info to contain in this universe thus, leading them to feel like can't ever know everything, making them to feel less intelligent.  Thats how I feel a lot of the times at least. I know I'm not the most intelligent in a lot of areas though, thats for sure.

dumb people think they know everything because they just make up info and believe it to be true.




This is what I'm talking about.

Intelligent people know there's a plethora of information and when they compare themselves to it, they don't feel as confident or as sure of their intelligence.
I don't think dumber people fully grasp how much information there is and they overestimate their intelligence.  Atleast that's my take on it.


and I'm not talking about self-fulfilling prophecies.  There's an actual word for this but I don't remember what it is.


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: tito123]
    #19095877 - 11/06/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

but im dumb, AND i no there is a shit load of information out thier


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: tito123] * 1
    #19095887 - 11/06/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

but at the same time, I think intelligent people know they're smart when they compare themselves to people in general.  I guess intelligent people surround themselves with books and other intelligent folks and that makes them feel not quite as smart.  but that could be a good thing.  because then they're always pushing themselves to learn more.


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: tito123]
    #19095894 - 11/06/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

if someone would post the actual word/wiki page for this, it would clear all of this up.  Atleast in my brain.


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #19095915 - 11/06/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm pretty smart and I know it. Not bragging or anything. I'm also of above average height and I'm aware of that too.




You must be small then


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: XUL]
    #19095921 - 11/06/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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tito123 said:
What's the word for this called?  It would be cool if someone could link me the wikipedia page for this.


This word says a lot about politicians.





'Self fulfillng prophesies' are a pretty normal thing. Look that up.



Here.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy



Isn't this, like, the opposite of a self-fulfilling prophecy?


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: tito123] * 1
    #19095937 - 11/06/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Op, you thinking of the Dunning Kruger effect?


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: jewunit]
    #19095940 - 11/06/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

no cause smart people think their dumb, so they come off as dumb on this statistic  err, i think, this is getting a little too inception for me


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: hidenseek1] * 1
    #19095952 - 11/06/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

But if it were a self-fulfilling prophecy dumb people would think they are smart, and as such become smart. Dumb people who think they are smart are still dumb.


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: jewunit]
    #19095966 - 11/06/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/confucius.html#Ev25QGkRyUgFECQh.99




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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: Khii Khwaay]
    #19095975 - 11/06/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Op, you thinking of the Dunning Kruger effect?




Exactly.  You get 5 stars/shrooms and an internet hug.

You other guys should read that wiki cause I have no clue what you're talking about.


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: tito123] * 1
    #19096024 - 11/06/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Were all different levels of stupid OR smart...depending on how you look at it


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #19096030 - 11/06/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm pretty smart and I know it. Not bragging or anything. I'm also of above average height and I'm aware of that too.




stupid midget


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: koods]
    #19096235 - 11/06/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:lolsy:

I know I'm pretty damn smart (at least my friends tell me I am). I don't instantly judge people as idiots though when they say or do something incredibly stupid; because I've done things like that too.

Especially when I'm hungover or tired I tend to say some stupid things because I wasn't thinking. I normally recognize it after I say/do it though, and if someone didn't know me better or just met me they might think I'm a complete idiot. :lol:


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: tito123] * 1
    #19096290 - 11/06/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I feel like this is true for the most part. A lot of times it's just that smart people realize they know very little.

Damn that sounds really psuedodeep but I think it's true


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: tito123]
    #19096497 - 11/06/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There are so many variables so what you're saying is innaccurate.


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: Chowder963]
    #19096522 - 11/06/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not even sure what OP is seeking. A word that describes that behavior? The only thing I can come up with is "humility."


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: koods]
    #19096526 - 11/06/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm pretty smart and I know it. Not bragging or anything. I'm also of above average height and I'm aware of that too.




stupid midget



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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: Khii Khwaay] * 1
    #19096583 - 11/06/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm not even sure what OP is seeking. A word that describes that behavior? The only thing I can come up with is "humility."





it was this

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Op, you thinking of the Dunning Kruger effect?




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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: tito123]
    #19099119 - 11/07/13 06:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Im an absolute genius in my town. But on here im just a regular guy :smile:


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It's just a shot away..


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #19099169 - 11/07/13 07:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Im an absolute genius in my town. But on here im just a regular guy :smile:




Your namesake is textbook dunning kruger.


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: koods]
    #19099186 - 11/07/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

But im also an absolute lunatic. So theres good and bad :lol:


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It's just a shot away..


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: tripp23]
    #19099208 - 11/07/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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i think its more of.. intelligent people think their not that smart because theirs an impossible amount of info to contain in this universe thus, leading them to feel like can't ever know everything, making them to feel less intelligent.  Thats how I feel a lot of the times at least. I know I'm not the most intelligent in a lot of areas though, thats for sure.

dumb people think they know everything because they just make up info and believe it to be true.



my grandpa does this all the time..it drives me nuts...hes bat shit crazy with a million billion conspiracies..he literally pulls his own made up facts out of his butthole..this is why when I go there I don't make any convo with him because all he does is try to force me to believe all these zany ass stories..and he will never admit hes wrong even if its very apparent and acts like he knows everything..this is true dumb ignorant ass people think they know everything and intelligent people always know theyres something more to learn


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: tito123]
    #19099246 - 11/07/13 08:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

knowledge speaks, wisdom listens


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #19099251 - 11/07/13 08:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm pretty smart and I know it. Not bragging or anything. I'm also of above average height and I'm aware of that too.



Quote:

KremrBigSikter said:
I'm pretty smart and I know it. Not bragging or anything. I'm also of above average height and I'm aware of that too.





...and gosh darnit, people like me...


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #19099958 - 11/07/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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tripp23 said:
i think its more of.. intelligent people think their not that smart because theirs an impossible amount of info to contain in this universe thus, leading them to feel like can't ever know everything, making them to feel less intelligent.  Thats how I feel a lot of the times at least. I know I'm not the most intelligent in a lot of areas though, thats for sure.

dumb people think they know everything because they just make up info and believe it to be true.



my grandpa does this all the time..it drives me nuts...hes bat shit crazy with a million billion conspiracies..he literally pulls his own made up facts out of his butthole...




Literally? You know what that word means, right? You are saying your grandfather has something like a ticker tape coming out of his ass that has fabricated information printed on it.


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: tripp23]
    #19278824 - 12/15/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

“I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing.” - Plato


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: mt cleverest]
    #19278872 - 12/15/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

also
"those who know don't talk. those who talk don't know." - tao te ching


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    #19278893 - 12/15/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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    #19278935 - 12/15/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I wanted people to think I was smart.


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: mt cleverest]
    #19279809 - 12/15/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i figured this out, there are many different smarts, so even dumb people are smart at 1 thing, it gets to the point where dumb/smart is too vague of a description, thus categorizing people as dumb or smart is pointless in most cases


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Re: Smart people are unsure of their intelligence and dumb people think they're smart [Re: tito123]
    #19279922 - 12/15/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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What's the word for this called?  It would be cool if someone could link me the wikipedia page for this.


This word says a lot about politicians.



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