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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #19093178 - 11/05/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't give a shit what women hating feminists believe. I've got my own ideas about what real feminism is, somewhat inspired by Eva Perón's feminist manifesto's. I've been working on being more sexist. I've actually got a long way to go. That equality shit I was indoctrinated with fucked me up. Yeah anyone taking their fidelity seriously would abstain from drinking, I originally asked the OP if these women who are apparently being cheated on go out drinking, asserting that if they do then they are not taking fidelity too seriously anyway...


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #19093327 - 11/05/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't give a shit what women hating feminists believe. I've got my own ideas about what real feminism is, somewhat inspired by Eva Perón's feminist manifesto's. I've been working on being more sexist. I've actually got a long way to go. That equality shit I was indoctrinated with fucked me up. Yeah anyone taking their fidelity seriously would abstain from drinking, I originally asked the OP if these women who are apparently being cheated on go out drinking, asserting that if they do then they are not taking fidelity too seriously anyway...



Wow.  You have a sick, twisted, pathetic, and disgusting outlook on life.


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #19093337 - 11/05/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't give a shit what women hating feminists believe. I've got my own ideas about what real feminism is, somewhat inspired by Eva Perón's feminist manifesto's. I've been working on being more sexist. I've actually got a long way to go. That equality shit I was indoctrinated with fucked me up.




So, let me get this straight....... you think being taught about equality is what "fucked you up," and that turning into a sexist womanizer is what's going to "cure" whatever's wrong with you? :lolsy:

...you don't have to be a psychologist to know how this one's going to end up. :lol:

Reminds me of people who abuse other animals, children, and people to alleviate whatever inner turmoil they are going through. What they don't yet realize at the time, is that no matter how many living things they incur suffering upon, and no matter how much abuse they have inflicted, they will never feel complete. Something will always feel missing in their life, and it's not difficult to see why.

I get the feeling that you are somebody with no real power in society. You are probably blue-collar, or don't make very much money, and have almost no social or economic status in society.


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: deadwk]
    #19093620 - 11/06/13 01:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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...the people advocating polyamory always say monogamy is some ideology forced upon us by society, and that the people in monogamous relationships are doomed forever. Then they end their posts by saying "it's just opinion and perspective though"

But they always criticize other people for being monogamous and acting as if they are enduring some terrible plague, which is ironic because they say "It's just opinion and perspective though" anyone else find that ironic? anyways....

...People say monogamy creates tensions between people, but polyamory does as well. What if one partner is havign sex with others more so than the other partner.

What if one partner wants to have sex with the other, but the other partner decided to bang a different person that day?





I found this hilariously ironically true as well! I love how people attack goog strong, age proven princaples and insult them with the same ideology and evidence that has already proved thier opinion false...

Good way to illustrate what I couldnt or didnt have the energy to do..

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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Frizzie]
    #19093759 - 11/06/13 02:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There's a fundamental difference I've found between polyamorous and monogamous people. I've found that monogamous people tend to be people who feel jealousy and territorial for those who they feel affection towards, and quite strongly I might add. People who are polyamorous, find it very difficult to get jealous when they watch their partners having extramarital sexual affairs.

I've also dated married men who have said that they feel the exact same way, that they personally have never felt jealous about their wife hooking up or having an affair with whoever. The way I see it, the person you marry is not necessarily your true love. The person that you marry is somebody that you select to be a good father and a supportive partner. He is somebody that you raise children with. They may do all these things wonderfully without necessarily being your TRUE love, or even somebody that you love at all. 

I believe that I fall more into the polyamorous category. In any of my past relationships I have been in, I am certain I would have felt absolutely no jealousy if I were to find out my partner had been cheating. I've never been cheated on, that I know of, and a big part of that is because I never bothered to care whether to dig deep enough and find out if they had. I'm certain if I was the jealous type, I would have been going through their phone or their Facebook or their web history accounts and would have dug something up. Truth is, it simply wouldn't bother me if they were.

My biggest fantasy is to get married and have an affair with the sexy underaged poolboy. :naughty:


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #19093913 - 11/06/13 03:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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anyone taking their fidelity seriously would abstain from drinking




anyone taking their fidelity seriously would simply not fuck other people and absolutely nothing else.

You are hilariously confused.



Edit: something I wanted to stress is that polyAMORY is about LOVE, that means having a relationship + an affair does not have to be polyamory, and I suppose in most cases it really isn't!

And by the way, I've never felt more than a tiny touch of jealousy.
But I think that greatly depends on how you value yourself and how needy you are in social concerns.


Edited by Murzelpfrumpft (11/06/13 03:29 AM)


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Crystal G]
    #19095561 - 11/06/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The way I see it, the person you marry is not necessarily your true love. The person that you marry is somebody that you select to be a good father and a supportive partner. He is somebody that you raise children with. They may do all these things wonderfully without necessarily being your TRUE love, or even somebody that you love at all. 




Love is just an idea. There is no such thing as a "true love".

It's all just a bunch of chemical reactions and under the right conditions, these reactions can be stimulated by just about anybody.

When I hear people talking about finding "true love" - I can't help but think about junkies chasing after their next high! :rofl:


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Crystal G]
    #19095597 - 11/06/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Murzelpfrumpft said:
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usulpsychonaut said:
anyone taking their fidelity seriously would abstain from drinking




anyone taking their fidelity seriously would simply not fuck other people and absolutely nothing else.

You are hilariously confused.






You are right. I've always been so completely and utterly confused about everything and I still am. Yeah they simply would not fuck other people.

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I don't give a shit what women hating feminists believe. I've got my own ideas about what real feminism is, somewhat inspired by Eva Perón's feminist manifesto's. I've been working on being more sexist. I've actually got a long way to go. That equality shit I was indoctrinated with fucked me up.




So, let me get this straight....... you think being taught about equality is what "fucked you up," and that turning into a sexist womanizer is what's going to "cure" whatever's wrong with you? :lolsy:

...you don't have to be a psychologist to know how this one's going to end up. :lol:

Reminds me of people who abuse other animals, children, and people to alleviate whatever inner turmoil they are going through. What they don't yet realize at the time, is that no matter how many living things they incur suffering upon, and no matter how much abuse they have inflicted, they will never feel complete. Something will always feel missing in their life, and it's not difficult to see why.

I get the feeling that you are somebody with no real power in society. You are probably blue-collar, or don't make very much money, and have almost no social or economic status in society.




I do make it fucking obvious that I am powerless, poor and in a down position. My inner workings to become more sexist have nothing to do with hurting anyone, rather to bring pleasure and balance into my reality. I love reading books on psychology, these have helped me see that I need to develop my sexism.

I am not really making any assumptions here on this thread. I just put words together that outline some conservative traditionalist views, this is funny, cause I'm stoned and having a rocking raging time. Sure part of my down position is that I'm still not getting laid either, but this is due to my total lack of sexism. I can't even flirt yet. Things are actually looking up. As in I've figured out an angle for meeting women, I just need to stop being so slow and polite (too polite, not sexist enough to make her react), my stoic, cool and emotionless presence keeps everyone at a distance.

I feel that Crystal G presented an assumption that all stay at home mothers would be unappreciated, common, bored and discontent with their lot. I simply outlined a different way of looking at it. Is there really a right and wrong here?

Picking on someone for being low social status and powerless... sexist bad, classist good? Fucking hypocrit.


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Crystal G]
    #19095638 - 11/06/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I've also dated married men who have said that they feel the exact same way, that they personally have never felt jealous about their wife hooking up or having an affair with whoever. The way I see it, the person you marry is not necessarily your true love. The person that you marry is somebody that you select to be a good father and a supportive partner. He is somebody that you raise children with. They may do all these things wonderfully without necessarily being your TRUE love, or even somebody that you love at all. 
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I don't really see a correlation between lack of jealousy and the idea of "true love".  The way i interpret this paragraph is to say that if they had married their "true-love" they would get jealous?

I fall into the poly category as well, and as I get older my thoughts on the subject only become more pronounced and passionate.  I also have a lot of trouble experiencing jealousy but I haven't always been that way.  I just never saw anything good come out of the emotion so I quit participating.  Now its hard for me to remember what it feels like, but i remember it feeling like kind of desperate and panicky. 

I sleep with a variety of people but I do feel like i am with the true love of my life.  I refer to her as my partner because we make an excellent partnership for many reasons, but that in no way makes me want to control her, I still don't experience jealousy when she is sleeping in someone elses bed..  But that's not to say i don't love her with all my heart.


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Mr. Material]
    #19096949 - 11/06/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The way I see it, the person you marry is not necessarily your true love. The person that you marry is somebody that you select to be a good father and a supportive partner. He is somebody that you raise children with. They may do all these things wonderfully without necessarily being your TRUE love, or even somebody that you love at all. 




Love is just an idea. There is no such thing as a "true love".

It's all just a bunch of chemical reactions and under the right conditions, these reactions can be stimulated by just about anybody.

When I hear people talking about finding "true love" - I can't help but think about junkies chasing after their next high! :rofl:




Certainly, it is a chemical reaction, but these reactions cannot simply be stimulated by just about anybody. It's actually quite rare to find somebody you are PASSIONATELY in love with, as opposed to feeling secure because they are a dependable guy. Again, chemistry easily explains this.


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #19096962 - 11/06/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I do make it fucking obvious that I am powerless, poor and in a down position. My inner workings to become more sexist have nothing to do with hurting anyone, rather to bring pleasure and balance into my reality. I love reading books on psychology, these have helped me see that I need to develop my sexism.

I am not really making any assumptions here on this thread. I just put words together that outline some conservative traditionalist views, this is funny, cause I'm stoned and having a rocking raging time. Sure part of my down position is that I'm still not getting laid either, but this is due to my total lack of sexism. I can't even flirt yet. Things are actually looking up. As in I've figured out an angle for meeting women, I just need to stop being so slow and polite (too polite, not sexist enough to make her react), my stoic, cool and emotionless presence keeps everyone at a distance.

I feel that Crystal G presented an assumption that all stay at home mothers would be unappreciated, common, bored and discontent with their lot. I simply outlined a different way of looking at it. Is there really a right and wrong here?

Picking on someone for being low social status and powerless... sexist bad, classist good? Fucking hypocrit.




I'm not picking on you for being low social status, I am creating a profile of you based on some of the hateful words that you say (and quite accurately I might add).

Ever notice that people who are racist or sexist, such as members of the KKK or members of the military, tend to be uneducated, of low social status, with little to no real power in society? Well the reason that I mentioned that is because it's interesting to understand WHY somebody would psychologically resort to sexism and racism when they have no real power in society. It really doesn't take a genius to figure out why people of lower social statuses resort to racism and sexism to "feel better" about themselves.

It is not a crime to be ignorant. The real tragedy is when you act willfully ignorant, when you obviously know better. If you had a daughter I'm certain you wouldn't be spewing this vile.

"Nothing is worse than active ignorance." -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Crystal G]
    #19098253 - 11/06/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The only hateful words I've used here are 'fucking hypocrit'. I like cursing, but I'm always aware of my own hypocrisy. I'm getting painted with racist, sexist, KKK, militant, uneducated slander and being accused of spewing vile. Your secular piety is making you feel better about yourself.

Words just are not so black and white for me. I do my best not to quickly identify emotionally with the collective pain streams of social issues like a common simpleton (often fail). I really don't know what makes you think I've any more hate than yourself. Sexism is only really frowned upon on an intellectual and psuedo emotional level. In reality women love sexist men. The more sexist the man the more he is adored by women. William Shatner is still a popular philanthropist, is this not definitive proof that sexism is fun?


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: usulpsychonaut] * 1
    #19098638 - 11/07/13 01:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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In reality women love sexist men. The more sexist the man the more he is adored by women.




Um. No. Ascribing to a gender role is not synonymous to the word sexist. As I said earlier, there are feminists who are feminine and choose to be housewives or stay-at-home moms. A man choosing a particular identity is not the same thing as a man who chooses to oppress an entire sex. There is nothing inherently oppressive about a "man's man" who likes to work on cars and drink beer. A man does not have to exhibit any "girly" characteristics in demeanor or behavior to be considerate for equal treatment of women.

I really have no idea what is so sexist about William Shatner, although I don't know anything about the guy. Maybe you should explain what's so sexist about him. Interestingly enough, doing a quick search, I found this article about him: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276882/William-Shatner-slams-Reddit-allowing-racism-homophobia-sexism.html


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19098836 - 11/07/13 02:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't read this whole thread, but I have noticed that pretty much everyone I know cheats, not even just the males, although I know more males, so I know more males that cheat.

I find it disqusting honestly, I would never cheat under any circumstance.


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #19099289 - 11/07/13 08:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ever notice that people who are racist or sexist, such as members of the KKK or members of the military




WTF Crystal?....you're comparing people in KKK to people in the military. Holy shit....did my opinion of you take a radical dive!:minigun:


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #19099314 - 11/07/13 08:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ever notice that people who are racist or sexist, such as members of the KKK or members of the military




WTF Crystal?....you're comparing people in KKK to people in the military. Holy shit....did my opinion of you take a radical dive!:minigun:




I'm not comparing the two. I wasn't even saying that all members of the military are the way that I described (although I can see how you read it that way). What I meant to say was that sexism and racism are rampant in the military, and I was explaining the reason for this. Around 80% of my friends are in the military (marine corps and navy, and one army friend, I've only met two people in the air force, I have only met them once and they were still both incredibly racist, talking shit about towelheads and niggers quite often and even took a few cracks at me). The marine and navy friends that I am acquainted with have also taken me on base and to the barracks and invited me to the military balls. Racism and sexism definitely run rampant in the military. That is not to say that everybody in the military is either of these, however.

But I was saying that the reason it runs rampant in the military, is because most of them are uneducated, they believe religious doctrine that says woman is inferior to man, and they hold virtually no power or status in society. Oh, and because most of them are from Texas.

I guess I should really be talking shit about people who come from Texas (outside of Austin) and from podunk nowhere areas of America.


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Crystal G]
    #19101303 - 11/07/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Every member of the US Military I have ever met have been racist, literally every one of them.


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19101364 - 11/07/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Every member of the US Military I have ever met have been racist, literally every one of them.




I have one friend who is in the marine corps who is not racist, is a liberal and a Democrat, is pro-feminist, and a scientific-thinking atheist. He talks mad shit about Bill O'Reilly and George Bush, and also talks shit about how dumb the military is, and how much he hates religious Texans in the military. He is definitely a rarity. He is more the scholarly and academic type, scored 99% on the ASVAB, and I wonder to this day why he ever joined the military.

Oh, and he also loves to take ecstasy and mushrooms and whippets. :Awemazing:


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Crystal G]
    #19101380 - 11/07/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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mjmihalov said:
Every member of the US Military I have ever met have been racist, literally every one of them.




I have one friend who is in the marine corps who is not racist, is a liberal and a Democrat, is pro-feminist, and a scientific-thinking atheist. He is definitely a rarity. He is more the scholarly type, scored 99% on the ASVAB, and I wonder to this day why he ever joined the military.




Yeah, that is most definitely a rarity, at least IME.

I once thought about joining the military, I'm so glad I changed my mind.


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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: TrentBoyett] * 1
    #19101400 - 11/07/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah, that is most definitely a rarity, at least IME.

I once thought about joining the military, I'm so glad I changed my mind.




When I told him I was considering joining the military his exact words were: "No!!!! Don't!!!! Just imagine... THE DUMBEST GUY YOU HAVE LITERALLY EVER MET... being in command of you telling you what to do every single day. THAT is what the military is like." :lol:


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