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BubbleTea
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Salvia 10x Trip Report - didint breakthrough...Suggestions?
#19095377 - 11/06/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So recently I purchased like 1 gram of 10x salvia. I decided to try it with two sitters. I packed some regular leaf in my bong and sprinkled severa pinches of 10x extract. The first hit I felt nothing but the second or third hit I started laughing a bit and it felt like something or someone was pulling my body down into something. Also it felt hold like people were turning into clocks. This is as far as I got that day. The weird feeling started to subsided and I tried smoking two more bowls adding more and more 10x each time but nothing happened. What did I do wrong? I don't think i was able to hold each hit for 30 seconds i could only hold them in for about 15-20 seconds. I used a torch lighter too.
I am going to try again with 40x this time. Any suggestions? PS: at the beginning of the trip i went in with great respect for Salvia but as I failed to breakthrough I started to doubt that Salvia was a being and started to treat it as just a drug. Could that be a problem too?
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FrozenHappiness
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Re: Salvia 10x Trip Report - didint breakthrough...Suggestions? [Re: BubbleTea]
#19096513 - 11/06/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You shouldn't need anymore then 10x 40x will probably blast you into the amnesiac salvia space where you come back to reality confused and wondering what the fuck just happened. I recommend taking bigger hits via a bong or steam roller and trying to hold them in longer. Also, usually the only times I have ever had breakthrough experiences I was smoking it by myself with no distractions-- I would turn the lights down low or off completly, or I would put a blindfold on. I would turn the music off, or put some soft instrumental music on real low.
Once in a great while I would breakthough without making those preparations, but not usually.
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BubbleTea
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Re: Salvia 10x Trip Report - didint breakthrough...Suggestions? [Re: FrozenHappiness]
#19096528 - 11/06/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So just the 10x and no need to mix it with the regular leaf?
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FrozenHappiness
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Re: Salvia 10x Trip Report - didint breakthrough...Suggestions? [Re: BubbleTea]
#19096681 - 11/06/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mixing it with regular leaf wouldn't hurt. When Salvia and I were good friends I would put some 5x or 10x on top of some regular leaf when I had plain leaf available. So, if you have it you it. I dabbled a bit with 15X, 20X, and 30X stuff too. Personally I wouln't do anything above 15x, and 10x was always the most profound for me when I would break through. For me, 15x was hit or miss; I would always break through, but I wouldn't always remember what happened. 20x and above would put me in such a bizarre alien space that I would come back wondering what the fuck had just happened to me, and not being able to remember anything specific about the expereince except, "that was s0ooo weird!".
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BubbleTea
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Re: Salvia 10x Trip Report - didint breakthrough...Suggestions? [Re: FrozenHappiness]
#19096737 - 11/06/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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so I shouldnt even try my 40x then? If i was too. Howmuch should i put in the bowl?
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FrozenHappiness
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Re: Salvia 10x Trip Report - didint breakthrough...Suggestions? [Re: BubbleTea]
#19096848 - 11/06/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I mean, if you already have it, use it. I'd hate to be wasteful or disrespectful to Mistress Salvia. I've found anything above 15x hard to dose. I reckon a small pinch of 40x would definately take you somewhere. I know 30x was definately easy to take too much of, it only took a small pinch of that stuff to send me to the outer limits. The same would be true for 40x also.
When I am befreinding hallucinogens I like to start out with lower doses and work my way up to higher ones incrementally untill I take enough that the expereince is so intense i can barely handle it, then I back off just a little bit.
Some people like to go full balls straight away, and every time they trip thereafter.
If you end up taking "too much" Salvia it won't hurt you. It'll just be really weird, and you won't remember hardly anything from the experience. Some people genuinely like that level of Salvia experience. If you do not then just adjust your dosage accordingly and try again.
You may have to wait a few hours or even a day before trying again, there is a little bit of a tolerance effect.
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BubbleTea
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Re: Salvia 10x Trip Report - didint breakthrough...Suggestions? [Re: FrozenHappiness]
#19097003 - 11/06/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So you don't think it would be too scary? I am an experienced tripper.
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Re: Salvia 10x Trip Report - didint breakthrough...Suggestions? [Re: BubbleTea]
#19097191 - 11/06/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That is hard for me to say. It is possible that the journey could be terrifying. At least the intense part only lasts minutes, even if it does feel like an eternity.
In my experience, everytime I had over done it with Salvia, the experience was too strange and bewildering to even be frightening, even if I could have remembered how to be afraid in the first place.
If you are worried, start small and work your way up.
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Re: Salvia 10x Trip Report - didint breakthrough...Suggestions? [Re: FrozenHappiness]
#19097351 - 11/06/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay thanks so man for your help. So I have smoked it a few times before 10x. Do you think i could just try the 40x alone in the saftey of my backyard or i need a sitter?
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FrozenHappiness
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Re: Salvia 10x Trip Report - didint breakthrough...Suggestions? [Re: BubbleTea]
#19097855 - 11/06/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think you should be fine experimenting in the safety of your back yard, unless it is filled with some crazy dangerous shit like a pool, some cacti, chainsaws...whatever
Whether you want a sitter or not is up to you. Having one on hand that won't interfere with the experience, but will prevent you from doing something that could potentially harm yourself is never a bad idea, but I have found it difficult to completely breakthrough with other people around. I have noticed that if I am not visually cut off from the world I tend to want to stand up and wander around while I am in the midst of the experience, which could be a potential problem if there are hazards in the environment. That has never been the case when I journeyed alone in the dark, or with a blindfold, or even just laid back and closed my eyes immediately when the experience kicked in.
Edit: In fact the blindfold technique was how I helped my sister launch deep into Salvia space off of some 5x for her first experience. I had her wear a blindfold, and I packed and fired the bong. When she had taken a couple of good hits I took the bong and quietly left the room to let her have her experience. Her tale is not mine to tell, but I assure you she made it to the other side, and it was a strange and wonderful journey.
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Edited by FrozenHappiness (11/06/13 09:40 PM)
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