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Re: Fellow Anarchists? [Re: Smokey420]
    #19092096 - 11/05/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah... Give me an example from history of a class free capitalist society.





Here is an example of what some term a 'class free' society:

Joe biden gets up at Matha's vineyard, and gives a speech with multi-millionaires like John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi cheering him on...they are served $50 a pound imported beef, have $300 a bottle fine wines, movie stars and pop singers providing entertainment, and Joe Biden's speech is about how the republicans are out of touch with the little guy.....

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Re: Fellow Anarchists? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19092110 - 11/05/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You think I like democrats? :lolsy:


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Re: Fellow Anarchists? [Re: Smokey420]
    #19095049 - 11/06/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

How can you say they flourished if they didn't even last a full Presidential term?


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Re: Fellow Anarchists? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19095147 - 11/06/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They flourished until Stalin turned against them.
The model of society was a success, not their military strength against the soviets.


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Re: Fellow Anarchists? [Re: Smokey420]
    #19095236 - 11/06/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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They flourished until Stalin turned against them.
The model of society was a success, not their military strength against the soviets.



:rofl2:What does Stalin have to do with Spain and if they needed his support they clearly couldn't stand on their own.


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Re: Fellow Anarchists? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19095253 - 11/06/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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They flourished until Stalin turned against them.
The model of society was a success, not their military strength against the soviets.



:rofl2:What does Stalin have to do with Spain and if they needed his support they clearly couldn't stand on their own.




Again, showing your lack of knowledge of the history.

Do a little research on the Spanish civil war.
This was a lead up to WWII, the allies were at one point united against Franco, who was backed by Hitler.


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Re: Fellow Anarchists? [Re: Smokey420]
    #19095305 - 11/06/13 01:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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They flourished until Stalin turned against them.
The model of society was a success, not their military strength against the soviets.



:rofl2:What does Stalin have to do with Spain and if they needed his support they clearly couldn't stand on their own.




Again, showing your lack of knowledge of the history.

Do a little research on the Spanish civil war.
This was a lead up to WWII, the allies were at one point united against Franco, who was backed by Hitler.



Let me ask again.  Why should they need any support from Stalin if they were flourishing on their own?


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Re: Fellow Anarchists? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19095357 - 11/06/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They didn't have any support from Stalin, the soviets were in Spain fighting against Franco, alongside many other factions. Eventually, Stalin decided to purge the allies of those he considered "counter revolutionary"  The anarchists had no outside funding, the only weapons they had were made from their collectivized factories, or taken from dead enemies.

Many historians speculate this purge was the reason Franco won the war in Spain.


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Re: Fellow Anarchists? [Re: Smokey420]
    #19096343 - 11/06/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So?  You said they were flourishing.  Clearly they were not.


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Re: Fellow Anarchists? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19096441 - 11/06/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Why should I keep debating with you, if you're not even going to do any research on the topic at hand?
Its become clear you didnt even know the spanish civil war had ever happened before I brought it up.


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Re: Fellow Anarchists? [Re: Smokey420]
    #19096542 - 11/06/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Why should I keep debating with you, if you're not even going to do any research on the topic at hand?
Its become clear you didnt even know the spanish civil war had ever happened before I brought it up.




:lolsy:I knew it had happened and that the batshit crazy Hemingway and some other starry eyed assholes were involved.  I just never heard anybody try to argue that it somehow flourished.  It didn't do anything of the kind if it had to be propped up by the one of the biggest mass murderers in history.


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Re: Fellow Anarchists? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19096655 - 11/06/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Again, the soviets never propped up any Anarchists. You need to stop rewriting history to fit your narrative. By the way, Gorge Orwell was possibly the biggest critic of the soviet union in known history. His famous novel, Animal Farm, played a big part in swaying public opinion
against the USSR, which was a major US ally at the time. Orwell himself faught alongside the Anarchists , and took a bullet fighting against Franco's fascist army.


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Re: Fellow Anarchists? [Re: Smokey420]
    #19096795 - 11/06/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You're the one who said they collapsed because Stalin withdrew his support.


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    #19096835 - 11/06/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Re read.
I said they collapsed because Stalin purged the allies, killed thousands of them, and sent the rest to the gulags.


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