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My First Grow PF tek BRF
#19095135 - 11/06/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wanted to document our first mush grow and hopefully get some tips from all the knowledgeable people on here. I've been lurking for months, and reading as much info as i could before i started. Now that my brain is completely saturated with info, it's time to get some practical skills.
Right into it... We mixed up the 2 parts Verm, 1 part BRF and 1 part water mixture based on the pftek method so widely used on this site.

After mixing it up, the consistency and moisture seemed to be pretty good....was moist, but when i squeezed it, no water came out. Filled up 6 jars..well 2 jars, 4 glasses. We only used 2 jars because even though they say "widemouth" there seems to be a little indent on the inside that might keep the cake from coming out.

After filling all the jars, we wiped the top of the glasses clean and topped them off with dry verm., covered with tinfoil, then off to the stove.

We boiled them for 1 hour and 40 minutes....a little longer than called for because we had to add a little extra water to it to keep it from boiling dry.

While we waited for the jars to cool, we build the FC and an inoculation chamber as well.


Once the jars were cool, and the chambers built, we wiped down the entire area with lysol wipes, and the inside of both chambers before we placed all the things we would need in it. I was really worried about contams so i wiped the packages of the wipes and spore syringes before they went in as well. I then used an alcohol wipe to do the gloves before i started the inoculation.

After flaming the needle till red hot, i wiped it clean with an alcohol wipe to remove the soot.

I then proceeded to inoculate the jars. We used two different types of spores...blue meanie and john allen....not for any other reason than we wanted to see which was more forgiving.
I gotta say, this was a lot harder than it looks...for me anyway. I have a question about this part....when i inoculated some of the jars, there was a little spore solution coming out of the tip of the needle without any pressure...when i inserted the needle, the tip was already wet..is that ok? I flamed the needle between each jar, and alcohol swabbed right after.
after all the jars were done, i placed them in the fruiting chamber till some mycelium grows. Do they have to be in the dark? The ambient temp in the FC is around 23C. That's where we're at so far. Now we wait and keep reading!! Thanks for any help you fine people might have to offer.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19095157 - 11/06/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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no need to keep jars in the dark. But also useless to wipe the needle AFTER flaming it. Flaming the needle till red hot is what you need to do. Do not wipe with alcohol after you flame the needle.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: B_BOY]
#19095483 - 11/06/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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will the black soot left on the needle not hurt the inoculation? They're not really in the dark, there's some ambient light in the room...it's just the pic...Thanks for the reply
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19100900 - 11/07/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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apparently there are mixed reviews on whether to flame or not, or whether to wipe or not. Some say they don't flame, and some say they don't wipe, and both sides claim to not have any major problems, so by doing both, i guess i increase my chances of mycelium growth.
These forums are endless....all the reading i've done and still have a million questions...
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19100923 - 11/07/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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make sure your checcking for the right things, some say they have no ssues with wiping but for the most part there doinng grains hich tthere needle ti will nver touch, and it doesn't get any more sterile then red hot, the first drop of solution will cool your needle, you can wipe before you flame np(poitless but u can)
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
#19101208 - 11/07/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I only just finished my first flush of my first grow, but, it looks as if you're following the tek. My only suggestion would be to get the jars so they're all consistent, but I guess that's not vital. Good luck, you'll have fun watching them grow. Prepare to be amazed with the first big growth spurt.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19101225 - 11/07/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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1down5up said: apparently there are mixed reviews on whether to flame or not, or whether to wipe or not. Some say they don't flame, and some say they don't wipe, and both sides claim to not have any major problems, so by doing both, i guess i increase my chances of mycelium growth.
Chemicals sanitize, heat sterilizes....there are no mixed reviews.
Wiping a flame sterilized tool with alcohol is like wiping shit on your face after a shower. RR
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19101262 - 11/07/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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1down5up said: will the black soot left on the needle not hurt the inoculation? They're not really in the dark, there's some ambient light in the room...it's just the pic...Thanks for the reply 
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Chemicals sanitize, heat sterilizes....there are no mixed reviews.
Wiping a flame sterilized tool with alcohol is like wiping shit on your face after a shower. RR
at least you know the soot is sterile
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: urthtown]
#19101391 - 11/07/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Never wipe the needle, ever, not even when putting it away for storage. It may look ugly and black from soot but if that bothers you you can buy replacement needles at your local pharmacy. Just don't go in looking like a junky.
I've never understood why the soot bothers people so much when they KNOW it's sterile.
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"Wiping a flame sterilized tool with alcohol is like wiping shit on your face after a shower." RR
hahahahah...too funny. I'll remember that advice next time i inoc some jars.
Thanks everyone
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19107473 - 11/08/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have a question....when i inoculated the jars, some of the fluid came out of the needle (without any pressure on the back of the syringe), so when i pushed the needle through the dry layer of verm, would it have dampened the dry verm layer enough to invite contams? It was my first time inoculating anything with a syringe, and was a fuck of a lot harder than it looks. I appreciate your patience with me, i know i'm a noob...any feedback would be great. Spanks 
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19107488 - 11/08/13 08:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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make sure your needle is tight to your syringe, you will probly be fine just try not to pick the jars up that much so you don't disturb your verm barrier
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
#19119210 - 11/11/13 06:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So when i woke up this morning...this is what I saw. We inoculated them on the 6th. I've seen no mycelium growth yet. The temps were low at first...around 21-21 (68-70) but for the last 3 days they've been up around 24-26 (75-78). I've read on here that it could be lipstick mold, or rust. It is also in the other jars, but only where the inoc holes are, and it appears as though it's only where the solution is present.
Can anyone help? I can post more pics if needed.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19119399 - 11/11/13 08:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just wait until further examination is possible, it could be two weeks before any mycelium growth is present.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: Jake642]
#19122413 - 11/11/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks! We knocked up another 4 jars with Golden Teacher tonight. We've got room in the FC and it'll save us a week if the first batch turns out to be contaminated....got my fingers crossed!
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19132017 - 11/13/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yesterday when i checked on the first batch of jars, i saw this at the bottom of one. I thought it strange that it appeared at the bottom, but if you look at the orange colored substrate just above it, that was the first one i knocked up, and put way too much in it....so the spore solution went right to the bottom. For some reason, every jar i knocked up, the spore solution appears an orangeish color. IS this contaminated, or the beginning of mycelium growth?

thanks for all your help!!
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19132062 - 11/13/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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hey po. nice glove box!
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"when i inoculated some of the jars, there was a little spore solution coming out of the tip of the needle without any pressure...when i inserted the needle, the tip was already wet..is that ok?
yes, that should be fine... as long as you sterilized the tip of the needle properly, which sounds like you did though if the solution was exposed to the outside it could contaminate the jars.. but this is not as likely considering you are using a glovebox.
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after all the jars were done, i placed them in the fruiting chamber till some mycelium grows. Do they have to be in the dark? The ambient temp in the FC is around 23C."
they dont have to be in the dark, but light is a pinning trigger. IME it's not really a huge factor in things, even when doing larger substrates. the largest factor for pinning is really the evaporation of the substrate, though co2 content and fresh air exchange FAE play big parts too.
you should keep the PF jars in room temperature.
when these colonize, what have you chosen for a fruiting chamber? i would advise against a SGFC from experience. a hybrid system would be better suited for cakes, one that utilizes a monotub-like design with perlite at the bottom.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 404]
#19132172 - 11/13/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks StateOfMind404!! I went with the SGFC because I'm following the BRF tek to a T....at least as closely as i can. What problems did you have with he SGFC? What would you do with a SG to modify it?
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19133846 - 11/13/13 10:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i had issues keeping the humidty up in the SGFC, though there are vets that will tell you that if you do it properly it works fine, though i did things like i was told and it was still a pain.
Doc-T has a hyprid system that takes the good parts of a monotub design, and if i was utilizing the pf tek i would build myself a monotub-like chamber... basically has wet perlite on the bottom, and holes filled with polyfill or micropore tape at the bottom, and holes at the top to create air flow.
the wet perlite is to elevate the humidity in the chamber. the holes should be 1.5 to 2 inch holes i believe. those are the only holes you will need, instead of a ton of little holes.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 404]
#19136390 - 11/14/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Would it retain more humidity if i covered every other hole with micropore tape...or stuffed them with synth stuffing? I read another members thread/tek where he made a FC but used only the larger holes filled with the synth stuffing. Put a fan on in the room to get some airflow, not directly on the FC and it looked like it was working for him.
I'm still so new to it all I'm just trying to get my feet wet, but if I do anything, i like to do it right. There are so many methods for cultivating these beauties, I'm sure i'll get one sooner or later.
thanks again to all the great minds for the wealth of knowledge on this forum!!
I saw this today on the same jar that has the myc growth on the bottom. The inoc holes on the top of this jar are a little larger than all the rest, cuz it was the first one i did, and was all shaky, but i think the larger holes are helping the GE, so i flame sterilized a knife tip and made the holes on the other jars slightly larger to see if that might speed up the myc growth.
 The orange stain around it is where the spore solution was distributed...i dunno why it turned orange, but i'm gonna wait it out before i toss'em.
Cheers
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19137412 - 11/14/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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use whatever is available to you. if micropore, use that, if poly fill use that.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 404]
#19150974 - 11/17/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So after 11 days of waiting, there seems to be a lot of change on two of the first set of jars...one other one appears as though it might start soon. The other looks like it's contaminated...the mycelium looks wet and greyish. I'll wait it out a few more days and if it turns out to be contaminated, i'll pasteurise it and toss it out. This is the first one that started to colonize...and it started on the bottom.
  
This is another jar i knocked up at the same time. This is the only spot that took after 11 days.

This jar is one i knocked up 4 days ago with Golden Teacher. I assumed on the first round the "orange" stain where the spores were was a contam , so i did 4 more, just in case. For some reason, this set also turned orange where the spores were at. This time, during the steaming, i left the jars in an extra 10 minutes, (1 hr 40 minutes) and when i added water, i boiled it beforehand so when i added it the temp didn't drop too much. Anyway. I was really impressed that it showed colonization after 4 days 
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19170854 - 11/21/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just an update....Three of the first 6 jars have definite mycelium growth. The other 3 show no signs of any growth at all. We used two different syringes for the 6 jars, so i'm thinking one was bogus. Oh well...live and learn. Here are a few pics..
   
Heres one of the JA jars i knocked up 8 days ago. This one is movin pretty fast. The other 4 jars I knocked up at the same time have no sign of any growth yet.

Here's a couple of side by sides to see the progress...the left side is day 11, and the right side is day 15...so 4 days of growth.

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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19170970 - 11/21/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Remove the foil....let the dry verm layer do it's job....
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: PussyFart]
#19171258 - 11/21/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: Remove the foil....let the dry verm layer do it's job....
Even though the glasses have no lids? There's no foil on the jars, and the foil on the glasses have holes punched in them. There's only one layer of foil on the glass. Should i take the foil off the glasses so it's just the layer of dry verm?
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19171345 - 11/21/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, my bad...did not realize they were drinking glasses....carry on lol.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: PussyFart]
#19173717 - 11/22/13 05:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No worries, thanks for the heads up
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19185848 - 11/25/13 08:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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This appears to be the only jar that will be ready to go into a FC without waiting weeks for the others to finish. Is there a recommended mini version of any FC that can be done for one cake? After using the search button, the only threads i could find had no pics. This is all 4 sides of the same glass.
    and this is a closeup of the newest myc growth..

Should i place the ready one in the fridge and wait for the others? They're moving pretty slow. The other three that have mycelium growth are only showing on one side.
3 of the original 6 jars i kocked up still show no signs of any growth at all. At least they're not contaminated!!! lol I'll probably toss them soon. I think the syringe i used to knock them up was bogus. I'm worried now that the other syringes i got will be the same. I might order another from a different vendor, a sponsor this time, to see if i have better luck. I'm also gonna go out today and have a look for the right jars
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19188385 - 11/25/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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once the jars are colonized 100% all the way around, you need to let the mycelium digest the substrate, especially this one as it is a highly nutritious one with the BRF flour. this usually takes past 2 weeks, but letting it sit a week longer might be best as there are reports that it can help produce better fruits. this is called a consolodation period
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up] 1
#19188442 - 11/25/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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What is that orange growth on your one glass?
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underfliptown said: What is that orange growth on your one glass?
It's been there since a day or two after i knocked them up. It's on every jar at every injection hole. I thought it was a contam at first, but it hasn't grown or gotten worse, so i assume it's nothing to worry about. Have you ever seen it before? Any idea what it might be?
StateofMind404, I've read about the consolidation period, and have every intention of letting it for for the extra week or two....I was wondering if i could place it by itself in a 51 quart(48Litre) SGFC. Seems a little big for one jar. I have 3 others that will be ready some time afterwards...but they're colonizing pretty slowly. I've read that you can make a FC out of almost anything, so I might try making a smaller one for this one cake while the others catch up.
How long does the perlite last in a FC? Do you have to change it when you put new cakes in?
I'm going to try my hand at making a spore syringe if i get any fruits at all from this first cake. Hopefully it will perform a little better. I'd even dare try to clone it, but have no idea what i'm doing there...
Thanks for your help!
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19214712 - 12/01/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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One looks like it's ready to start consolidating in the next day or so...the others are catchin up quick. THis is the first one to go in the FC
    This one ^^^ looks really wet...will it be ok? Is that normal?
This one seems to be moving along a little faster now...it's about half way done.
 
This one is about 2/3 done
 On this jar^^^, there seems to be some sludgy stuff where the spore solution was injected...it appeared on the other jars too, but the mycelium seemed to eat right through it....does it look familiar to anyone? HEre's a pic...

and this is one of the first set of jars i knocked up that i've all but given up on....this is day 25 for this one, and this is the first sign of myc growth.

I hope they turn out ok....i'd love to get some spore prints out of this first grow...
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19214994 - 12/01/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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https://files.shroomery.org/files/13-48/595574743-Jar125a.jpg
being wet like this is normal. its just mushroom piss
the orange stuff looks like bacterial infection.
why did you do glasses over glass mason jars?
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 404]
#19215000 - 12/01/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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StateOfMind404 said: its just mushroom piss
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RogerRabbit said: Mycelium does not urinate, does not have a bladder, and there is no such thing as myc piss. Why this horrible disinformation persists after we've known for over 50 years that these liquids are antibiotic and released in response to bacteria is beyond comprehension. Next time you get sick, ask the doctor for a myc piss shot instead of antibiotics and see him look at you like you just bumped your head or fell off a turnip truck. If your grains are infected, there will be metabolites. If you've colonized at above normal room temperature, bacteria has been stimulated and thus the metabolites. RR
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RogerRabbit said: It's not even a waste product, and people who call it piss are ignorant. The liquid is excreted to help break down the substrate, and in a different formulation is produced to fight contaminant molds and bacteria. These are the products antibiotics are made of.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: PussyFart]
#19215867 - 12/02/13 04:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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"piss"
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metabolites.
curb your enthusiasm, son.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 404]
#19215869 - 12/02/13 04:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Didn't know it sounded enthusiastic.....just clarifying.....
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: PussyFart]
#19215881 - 12/02/13 04:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah man, i was under the impression that mushroom 'piss' was just slang terminology for metabolites.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 404]
#19216128 - 12/02/13 07:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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so should i just wait it out and see what they smell like when i birth them? The orange has been there from the beginning....showed up around day 2 after knock up.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19216146 - 12/02/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Last 2 pics are definitely contaminated.....
Doesn't look good for any of the other jars that are showing any color but white either.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: PussyFart]
#19218072 - 12/02/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I chose glasses over the jars because all i could get were standard mouth...the mouth wasn't much wider than the rest, so i was worried they'd get stuck in there. Now that i know that they shrink when consolidated, i think they'll be ok. I'll find out soon enough. Two of the jars are almost colonized.
Fuck...i hate the thought of starting over again....especially with the spore syringes i have. 
Think i may order another from a sponsor...hopefully i'll have better luck.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: PussyFart]
#19223065 - 12/03/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: Last 2 pics are definitely contaminated.....
Doesn't look good for any of the other jars that are showing any color but white either.
They were orange right from the start. Didn't get any darker or larger since then. The did get a little sludgy or "wet" looking, but so did the rest of the mycelium....the whole jar has condensation on it. Have you ever seen a case where the knock up points turned orange like that right away?
I searched on here for quite a while, and didn't find anything like it anywhere on the forums.
I read and read and read and sometimes the more i read, the more confused i get. I turned down the heat in the room to 21....seems bacteria like the higher temps. I also picked up a smaller tub to fruit them in...i'll prob only have 4 cakes out of 10...and mostly from spores not germ'ing. I think i'll only lose 2 to contams. one reached colonization yesterday and i can't wait to dunk it so i can give it a good smell. I'll still be extremely happy if i get one decent cake from all 10 jars...especially on my first grow.....fuck, it took me about 5 years to grow a good screen of green! Thanks to you guys for your help too...i'll post some more pics as soon as something changes.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19226028 - 12/04/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Birthed my first cake today! Smelled good, so im hopeful that it turns out alright.
Made a much smaller fruiting chamber too....one sized for 4 cakes
Boiling 8 more jars for knock up tonight...see if my luck changes.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19231743 - 12/05/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, here she is...sittin' all pretty on the white rocks. This is just after rolling in the verm. It was dunked for a total of 19 hours...couldn't do the 24 because i had to leave for work.

This is the smaller of the two FC i have...

This is Birtha McTrippin'Balls (her name) all sprayed up. We let her sit for about 20 minutes or so before we gave her and the chamber a good misting....then fanned it out before we put the lid back on.

...and this is how much perlite we put in.

I have three empty syringes now, and access to an autoclave at work. I also have sterilization pouches with indicators on them that i'll ready the empty syringes in. I'm hoping to get a spore print and try my hand at that too.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19244570 - 12/08/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can someone tell me if this looks like healthy mycelium growth?

also, if a cake were to contam with cobweb...do you have to dump the perlite and start again before putting new cakes in there, or can you spray it with peroxide, or maybe a bleach solution to keep using it?
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19246505 - 12/08/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cake looks fine, if it gets cobweb peroxide will kill it
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 404]
#19256210 - 12/10/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Got my first pin today!!!! Fuckin excited!!

Only jar left with GT finished colonizing today...I'll leave it to consolidate for a week then throw it in with the first cake. I have one more jar that's about a day or two behind, and that will be going in as well.
One more jar I have that appears contaminated with bacteria (in one very small spot) will be fully colonized in another week or so. I'll try birthing it in a separate room to see if it reeks. If it doesn't reek, i'll dunk n roll it and put it in with the rest to see if it can recover.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19256271 - 12/10/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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if it is bacteria i'd skip the dunk and build it it's own fc, something like a pop bottle, by the time your second flush comes the bacteria shouldn't be a problem(this all depends on how fucked it is of course)
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
#19259632 - 12/11/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok man, thanks for the advice! I'll post it all here in case you're interested in how it turns out.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19260276 - 12/11/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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of course i'm interested
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
#19265798 - 12/12/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So here's an update of the pins...growing steadily. There are a total of 8 now. They're all on two sides, with the other two sides showing nothing yet.
 
This one is going in vitro, it was knocked up on Nov.6th and just finished yesterday. I think i'll birth it tonight, or maybe tomorrow with the GT that finised up the other day.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19270894 - 12/13/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So i birthed the one that had the bit o slimy stuff on it yesterday, and dunked it last night. It's been dunked for 21 hours and i just rolled it in the verm and put it in a 2L with soaked perlite. It didn't smell bad at all...smelled quite good actually...could've taken a bite right out of it.
The first pinning cake i have is growing faster than bamboo. Fuckin' thing is just takin' right off. There are pins all over it, and the first ones to show are growing so fast, i can almost watch them change size. It's got two speeds, slow and balls to the wall. lol
I've noticed quite a few pins growing underneath it as well, one is pretty big...big enough to possibly flip the cake on it's side. I'm just going to leave it the way it is and hope that it doesn't. I'll try to get some pics later tonight when i get my camera back.
Also, not part of my first grow, but the start of my second, are my other 17 jars i knocked up, with a much higher success rate this time around. Out of 9 orissa india that were knocked up on Dec. 6, 6 have signs of good mycelium growth at almost every hole, and out of 8 Mexi cub knocked up on Dec. 4, 5 have strong signs of mycelium growth. The spore syringes still seem to be turning the substrate orange, but as long as i can get a few caps from them, i'm hoping i can make my own syringes. I would like to get into cloning and agar, to single out some great genes too. Where do you buy agar? Is it a specific kind?
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19271455 - 12/13/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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got my camera back. A little pin porn for ya.
This one is growing so fast....i get all giggly watching it

a few more shots of the cake, with some of the other pins. they all seem to have brown caps, and no black or dark ones yet..
 
I tried to get a shot of the one going underneath, but this is all i could get of it, even with the help of photoshop, it's the best i can get.

I can't stop looking at them....it's already Christmas at my place
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19271517 - 12/13/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
#19271544 - 12/13/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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just some extra info, the humidity stays around 91-93 and the temp is anywhere from 20-23 (68-73F) I have them on roughly 12/12...with a small CFL....it's not 6500k, but it's cool white light...there's also some ambient daylight that reached the FC from a window about 8 feet away.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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alright, so i'm a little scared now...i noticed a blueish green color to some of the mycelium on my first cake. I'm pretty bummed out cuz it was doing so well. I don't know if it's trich, but i have some high res pics if anyone can help me out. If it is trich, can I harvest these now? One big one has already broken the veil. Shot of the whole cake....

and some close ups of teh discoloration...
    
I really fuckin hope it's not I was looking forward to harvesting this one...

That cake above is the one on the right, the one in the middle in a 2L bottle is one i thought had bacteria contam, though there was no smell...just mushroom. The two in the left FC were dunked yesterday, and rolled today. I put them in a separate FC cuz i wasn't sure if there was contam on the first...trying to isolate them all till i know for sure.

All else fails, i'll have these ready in a month or so to go into my larger FC. THe taller ones were knocked up on Dec.4 and the shorter ones were knocked up on Dec.6.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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the bluish green is bruising of the mycelium. it means the mycelium is agitated, might need some water or some misting, careful not to mist too hard
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 404]
#19274764 - 12/14/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i mist it about 4 times a day when i'm at work, and sometimes as often as 6 when i'm home for the day. I fan more than i mist...sometimes i just give it one or two sprays just to get it to glisten, then fan till it's gone...usually only takes about a minute or so. Do you think i should mist it more? I really don't know what's enough, i kinda just giver till the sides start to drip, then i stop....about 8 or 9 shots on the spray trigger. The mist is very fine when it comes out...
Thank fuck it's not trich
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19275021 - 12/14/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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your doing great man! just mist once the moisture from your last mist has started to dissapear
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
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thanks brother, i'm really excited...I can't stop going into look at them. I have to resist the urge to take the cover off and kiss them every time i walk by.
I have a hygrometer in there, and i know i don't need it, but it gives me an idea of the temps in there. I've seen the humidity drop below 90 once, so I know it's fairly accurate on the lower end, which will give me some sort of indication. I know you're not supposed to change the tek at all, but i made my holes a little further apart than 2 inches....almost 3 inches. A senior member here told me he had some issues with keeping his humidity up, and I work everyday, so i wanted to retain a little more passive humidity by putting fewer holes in it, and it seems to be working pretty good so far.
I can't get over how slow they colonise, but how fast they fruit!!
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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I can't get over how slow they colonise, but how fast they fruit!!
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
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Last post for today...promise.
There's one growing under the cake, and it's pretty big. I'm hoping it will find it's way out and keep growing once it comes out from under the blankets.

and one more pic, just cuz they look so good 
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19275954 - 12/14/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looking good
The ones underneath are like a surprise! I had a few and didn't notice them until they really started growing fast.
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it will find it's way out, it's there job to get the best spore ejection possible
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
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She's doing a great job...yesterday i could barely make out what it was, today the cap is almost out.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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I'm going to be harvesting them tonight, most have broken the veil overnight. There are a few stragglers though, should i only pick the ones that are ready, and pick the rest a few hours later?
I plan on taking a spore print using this method:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5666855#5666855
I'm also going to try my hand at cloning...the simplest form, because i don't have a PC at hand right now. THis is the method i'm gonna try... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5874305/fpart/1/vc/1
Some final pics before i chop them later...
     
If anyone has any advice on harvesting them, feel free to chime in, i'm all ears!!
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: PussyFart]
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1down5up said: apparently there are mixed reviews on whether to flame or not, or whether to wipe or not. Some say they don't flame, and some say they don't wipe, and both sides claim to not have any major problems, so by doing both, i guess i increase my chances of mycelium growth.
Chemicals sanitize, heat sterilizes....there are no mixed reviews.
Wiping a flame sterilized tool with alcohol is like wiping shit on your face after a shower. RR
I have an issue with that statement.... Wiping the needle with a sterile wipe would have no effect on the needle in regards to contam. I for one wipe after flaming just because i dont like to see the needle black. its just mental for me, it pisses me off. I will i say dont have nearly as many grows as 98% of people on here, but i am 100% sure there is no harm to wiping a needle off with a wipe if its straight out of the container. It is certainly not like wiping your face with shit.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: Dboy]
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the alcohol wipes i used came in individual packages and are bought from medical suppliers. They don't say they're sterile anywhere on the package, but i assume they are. You wouldn't wipe a persons skin with one before you cut or pierce them if they weren't.
I did use them the second time around, but before i flamed the needle, and not after. I found that some verm stuck to the needle and I wanted to wipe it off before flaming it again. I dont know if it was fluke or not, but i had a better knock up rate this time around.
I'd really like to thank everyone on this site for sharing all this info, and for all your help. About 12 years ago I wanted to try my hand at it, but it just seemed too intimidating. Since then i just kinda picked up info about it here and there, but since watching the RR videos and checking out this forum, I've come to realize it's easier than it looks.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: Dboy]
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1down5up said: apparently there are mixed reviews on whether to flame or not, or whether to wipe or not. Some say they don't flame, and some say they don't wipe, and both sides claim to not have any major problems, so by doing both, i guess i increase my chances of mycelium growth.
Chemicals sanitize, heat sterilizes....there are no mixed reviews.
Wiping a flame sterilized tool with alcohol is like wiping shit on your face after a shower. RR
I have an issue with that statement.... Wiping the needle with a sterile wipe would have no effect on the needle in regards to contam. I for one wipe after flaming just because i dont like to see the needle black. its just mental for me, it pisses me off. I will i say dont have nearly as many grows as 98% of people on here, but i am 100% sure there is no harm to wiping a needle off with a wipe if its straight out of the container. It is certainly not like wiping your face with shit.
If you must wipe, wipe first, then flame. A needle's surface area is small compared to a wipe, and contams can fall on the wipe and contaminate the needle. Why risk it, and it eliminates a step in the process? You KNOW it is sterile after the flame, and if you are using denatured alcohol or equivalent, there is no soot. It is only sanitary after a wipe. Sterile>sanitary.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: SizlChest]
#19284903 - 12/16/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So i got my first spore print from the second biggest cap, left it for 24 hours in a half pint jar on a piece of tinfoil. Was nice and dark.
Also got a final weight for my first flush on that cake, 33g wet. Not bad for my first grow on one cake. I was really excited just to get some mushrooms and not lose it to contams. It's dunking now, and i'll put it back tomorrow around this time.
The cake i thought was contaminated is doing pretty good too. It's got 3 pins on it so far, but the caps look pretty dark right now. I'm gonna give it another few days before i take some pics to see if it does any better.
The other two cakes that made it out of the first round have been in the fruiting chamber for 2 days and have no visible signs of pins yet, but the mycelium looks good. As soon as they start any action, i'll post some pics.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19286301 - 12/16/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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1down5up said: I'm going to be harvesting them tonight, most have broken the veil overnight. There are a few stragglers though, should i only pick the ones that are ready, and pick the rest a few hours later?
I plan on taking a spore print using this method:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5666855#5666855
I'm also going to try my hand at cloning...the simplest form, because i don't have a PC at hand right now. THis is the method i'm gonna try... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5874305/fpart/1/vc/1
I picked one of my cake that had some with open, some with closed. The closed ones continued to grow bigger even after the others were picked. Picked them and did this a second time with a few stragglers that grew over the following day and dunked for 2nd flush. For potency maybe pick them all but the weight seems to really increase if you pick them separately.
Thanks for the link! I was trying to find a good spore printing tek that seemed simple enough and that looks like it. Sterilizing a jar as I type.
Also, that LC tek I tried a little over a week ago. Nothing really changing at the moment but I think the biopsy part didn't really grab enough tissue. That or it is just growing slowly. I used karo but am planning on trying honey next time.
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I used the honey. I saw a very small piece of tissue in there, but i'm not putting too much weight into it working...and not because i think the tek is no good...i just dont think i did it right. I really just want to try a bunch of different methods to see what i have the most success with.
I also waited an extra day to pick the stragglers, they got a little bigger, so i was happy....fuck, i was just happy to be picking mushies, and not tossing cakes 
Cronicr turned me on to this one, that i will try with my next batch of jars. http://www.shroomery.org/8514/Agar-substitute
I've got some orissa india, and some mexi cub. I took 4 of the fastest colonizers, and will try to clone a few different fruits from each one. I really want to move away from MS and stick to one set of genes...i think it will make growing them that much easier if they grow under a specific set of circumstances every time.
Thanks for poppin in man! cheers
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19293273 - 12/18/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok, so the cake i thought had contams, appears to be doing ok, but the fruits are a little weird looking....I'm going to do a bit of reading to see if i can find out what's going on, one small pin looks white.....here's a few pics
  
The first flush is over, and i left some very small pins on when i dunked it, but they haven't appeared to grow any since i put it back in the FC....how long after a dunk does it usually take to pick up again?

This is a mutant i got from the first flush, it was one of the late bloomers, and picked it the next day.

...and this is the first spore print i took from the first flush. Sorry for the grainyness...i took the pic through a glovebox. I first started taking spore prints when i started hunting liberty's...it was the only way i cold tell for sure if they were the right kind...at least until i recognized them.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19303939 - 12/20/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Been sick as fuck lately....can barely get outa bed, been taking pics, just can't get up to upload. There's been a bit of progress on one cake, the other stalled after the dunk for the second flush, and the other FC has two cakes with nice mycelial growth, but no pins yet. Just gonna wait it out.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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Get better soon
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
#19304368 - 12/20/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19304399 - 12/20/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah get better soon man. Being sick sucks. Plus it is flu season and that shit is miserable.
On a positive note, at least your mushies aren't sick! And just think about all the progress you will see if you have been unable to check on them as often.
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Ok folks, back in action, well...good enough to be outa bed anyway. That one cake that i singled out, started in a 2L pop bottle, was moved to the FC with my first cake. Unfortunately, my first cake stalled, and all the pins on it haven't budged since the dunk for the second flush. They aren't changing color, they're just there. Any advice? I"m going to just wait it out, but if anyone has any advice, i'd sure love to hear it.
This mutant here is all kinds of fucked up....upside downers, fuzzy bottoms, and pecker heads. Smells great though, and that's the comforting part. I read that the "fuzzy" mycelium at the base is an indication of not enough FAE, is that correct? Is that what this is?
 This was yesterday, and this is today
   You can see there's a few that are growing upside down.

An this cake finally showed it's first pin after exactly 7 days. The one in with it didn't consolidate as long so i bet it will be a few days late.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19308367 - 12/21/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ya, generally fuzzy feet means lack of FAE
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: vikingsc]
#19308393 - 12/21/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's hard to tell from the pic. There are holes in the bottom of the FC? You have the FC elevated a bit so air can come in those bottom holes evaporating your water soaked perlite and giving you humidity?
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: vikingsc]
#19308658 - 12/21/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The pics are pretty high res, if you click on'em, they'll come up bigger....and yup, i have holes on the bottom and all other sides. I noticed the perlite wasn't as wet as was when i first put it in there. I might pull the cakes out and soak it again.
most of the water droplets on the sides always evaporate about an hour or so after misting, so i know there getting some fresh air, maybe not enough. Could it be from the foil stretching out too far from the base? I mist and fan about 6 or so times a day, and i fan them pretty good.
I don't want to stress them too much, so i hope i figure it out soon...
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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You have it propped up on something so air can come in those bottom holes?
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: vikingsc]
#19309138 - 12/21/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes it's about 4 inches or so off the table. I just re-soaked the perlite cuz it was really dry on top. It was a lot lighter than when I first wet it. Maybe that had something to do with it....
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19309154 - 12/21/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah those are looking pretty rough
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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I have been trying to wet my perlite pretty regularly. It is harder to do now that my FC is full but when it was empty I was misting/turning/misting/turning every 5-7 days. It seemed to keep the humidity much more constant.
I also seem to remember reading in certain places that you want it higher up than that. Then again some teks say to set it on jars to elevate it which would be about that height (4".) Mine sits around 3 feet off the ground.
Just some food for thought since we are both kind of new at this. Glad you are feeling a little better
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said: yeah those are looking pretty rough
If ya think they looked rough then, check'm out now 
  
Does the discoloration on the last one mean it's fucked? They still smell great, just like mushies, but the way they're growing has got me wondering...
One more question, is this what LC mycelium starts out looking like?
 
I plan on using a syringe full of it to knock up some WBS and do a few bulk trays with it....if it works out. I didn't put any contam barrier on the lid though, and there's just tinfoil covering it now, so i dont think it will make it very far. Lesson learned.
I re-soaked my perlite last night cuz it was pretty dry, put all the cakes in one and soaked the other....seemed to bring the humidity back up, i'm hoping it helps with the FAE as well.
thanks for any help folks!!
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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i think the discoloration is from being saturated, you should have a more normal second flush, always test your lc
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
#19310619 - 12/22/13 05:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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will do man...i'm going to use the BRF agar substitute you turned me onto...Thanks again!
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19310627 - 12/22/13 05:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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no worries thats a great place to test it
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
#19311924 - 12/22/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So when i got home they opened right up. Gonna harvest them tonight. Let the rest go for another day or two.
   
...and while i was out today, stopped by a friends house and got me one of these!!!
 It's almost grain/bulk time baby!!
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19311960 - 12/22/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
#19311982 - 12/22/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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what do ya make of those mutants....safe to eat? I'll be sharing these with my friends, so I would love some advice...
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19312005 - 12/22/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah there safe to eat, munch away
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
#19312890 - 12/22/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The perlite in my sgfc is too small, restricting the airflow and reducing my fae. Thats why i got fuzzy bottoms and a less than average pinset i think. Gonna have to filter it I guess cuz there's nothing else around here.
17 more jars on the way, around 50-90% done...plus a week or two consolidating, then on to the larger FC. Gotta get this perlite thing worked out before I do. Got some mexi cub, and Orissa India I'm going to clone, then I'm on to some bulk with the best performers. I'd really like to get away from MS, especially with bulk, too random. I hope the second round of cakes performs better than this one. I think if I get the fae worked out I'll be golden. I'll post some more pics when something interesting happens...till then, merry Christmas all, and thanks for all your help! I wouldn't have even 1 dried gram of cube if it weren't for you all.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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So i sifted my Perlite, what a fuckin' PITA!!! Had to be done though, to increase the FAE in my SGFC. I'm still getting a little fuzzy, but nothing too serious, i just stepped up my fanning schedule to help compensate. I've got one more round of cakes left to fruit in a SGFC, then i'm going to go bulk in a monotub..after i do some more reading.
So here they are, two cakes on top are on flush 2, and the two at the bottom on on first flush

Few more pics of'em...
  
the LC i made seems to be doing ok, but i have no idea how i'm gonna get it out of there lol. Nothing in it to mix it up with, and the hole at the top has no injection port, just a hole fucked that one up! lol
 
This is the second round of cakes, Mexi cub and orissa india that will be coming up for my second attempt. I will be replacing the perlite with coarse stuff for the next round...if i can find it, if not, i'll have to sift the rest i have to get the biggest pieces. I found the shorter jars colonized faster, even though they were knocked up 2 days later...could be genetics, but they're all MS, so take it for what it's worth. I'll be using the shorter ones from now on....if and when i go back to the cakes. I plan on cloning the best performers and using what i get for WBS grows. I think after my second grow is over, i should have a decent enough handle on it to move to grains and bulk....esp. cuz i've got a PC now.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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looking good man! don't ever count geneitics out for fuzzy feet either, i had a patch of pan fimicola outside in my yard which a whole whack of them always had it and you can't say they needed more fae lol, if it's that bad with cakes you will normally see signs of it on the cake as well as the base of your fruits, and if you decie to have another run with cakes try use a little less water for your pints
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
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Thanks bro, i will give them another hook some time in the future if i get some spores, or different type of mushrooms to clone or print. I find the compactness of the cakes easy to work with. I can pick'em up and rotate them to check them out. I'd like to stock up on some cubes first, enough for my friends and I to not have to pick libs for a few years so the fields can recover.
As for the fuzzy feet, i think you've got a valid point there...the same cake has the fuzzy feet, moreso than the others. One cake barely has any. I changes the perlite out because i thought that might be causing it...it was so compacted because of the little bits...and the fact that i would move it from time to time to let it get some ambient light from the window i think didn't help with the compacting.
Thanks again for poppin in man, your wisdom is always welcome
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just a quick pic update. I'm disappointed in the second flush for the top two. Only one big shroom on one cake, and the other has about a half dozen pins. Other than that though, i'm really happy that i haven't lost anything to contams yet...fingers crossed.
  
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19346339 - 12/30/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Harvest time
The cake on the left was harvested with the exception of a few smaller ones with veils still intact. The one on the right still hasn't broken it's veil yet, and is getting pretty big! The few mushies i took off the cake weighed 27g wet.

bit closer

This is the fat one....biggest one i had grow yet. This cake is on the second flush now. I did dunk it for 24hr, and though there's only one other pin on this cake, this one mush will prob weigh more than the rest of the other cakes...i hope

These jars were knocked up on Dec. 6th, and were completely colonized around 4 or 5 days ago, and are showing pins already. Roughly 20 days from knock up to full colonization...pretty quick! I'll be printing and cloning some fruits from these few. They're Orissa India if anyone would like to trade prints when they're ready.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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looking good there. nice job for a first grow .
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great stuff!
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: bluecap]
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Thanks man! I've got one more round of cakes to fruit before i try my hand at bulk...should be fun
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
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Here's the monster i plucked today. It was one of only two mushrooms to show up for the second flush, but by weight was still pretty impressive for one cake imno.
  
I cut the stem in half to speed up the drying, and haven't seen any pics of this yet, so i figured i post one for interests sake.

I'll probably be updating this thread less and less now, as i get ready for my second grow. I will post a final weight, as well as any decent pics i might get from the next flushes.
Thanks to all you folks who helped me out...made a world of difference for me!
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19350106 - 12/31/13 07:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanks man...i noticed in your sig you have the random sized perlite....did you have any issues with FAE? I sifted mine to get rid of some of the smaller pieces...seemed to work ok.
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Nice mushroom man. You don't really need the chunky perlite. I bought a big bag of the Krum's perlite for like $30, which is probably enough for at least 5 grows without having to sanitize the perlite, just throwing it out. I fill up my sgfc and spray down the perlite with filtered garden hose water. Let it drain, then once you get it inside, use gloved hands to stir up the perlite real good so that it's nice and airy. I don't use a hygrometer and have had very good pinsets.
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1down5up said: Here's the monster i plucked today. It was one of only two mushrooms to show up for the second flush, but by weight was still pretty impressive for one cake imno.
  
I cut the stem in half to speed up the drying, and haven't seen any pics of this yet, so i figured i post one for interests sake.

I'll probably be updating this thread less and less now, as i get ready for my second grow. I will post a final weight, as well as any decent pics i might get from the next flushes.
Thanks to all you folks who helped me out...made a world of difference for me!
    
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Nice mushroom man. You don't really need the chunky perlite. I bought a big bag of the Krum's perlite for like $30, which is probably enough for at least 5 grows without having to sanitize the perlite, just throwing it out. I fill up my sgfc and spray down the perlite with filtered garden hose water. Let it drain, then once you get it inside, use gloved hands to stir up the perlite real good so that it's nice and airy. I don't use a hygrometer and have had very good pinsets.
that's good to know. I just bought a 20lb bag myself, and was going to rig up a contraption for sifting it all. Last time, i just filled up my SGFC with water(perlite still in) and just mixed it around with my hand while all the little pieces fell through the holes...lost about 1/3 or so of it, and had to combine both fc's perlite to make one. One thing i did notice about my SGFC is that the holes are a little further than 2 inches apart which would more than likely interfere with the FAE...so i drilled about 5 or 6 more holes on the bottom in places i thought might need it. It wasn't intentional, i just figured i could eyeball the 2". There's something to be said for following the tek's to a "T"....fuckin things are dialed in man.
@cronicr, thanks bro...you're heavily responsible for much of my cultivation knowledge
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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There's something to be said for following the tek's to a "T"....fuckin things are dialed in man.
For sure! Once you get things set and get your routine down they just kind of do their own thing without issues. I've been picking shrooms pretty much every 3-4 days once I got everything dialed in perfectly.
I haven't been on here in a week or so and I'm glad to see things are going well for you. Makes me want to update my thread lol.
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Did I do something wrong or miss something??
BTW Cronicr, update in 5 minutes, just have to download some pics...
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Haha ok man cool . I was worried it looked like i was wanting to hijack this dudes thread or something.
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hijack away boys...gives me somethin to read 
I'm gonna pop by your thread right now sarge....see what's going on
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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So every time i've dunked my cakes after the first and second flush, every pin i left on aborts. WTF? It's really frustrating because there are quite a few. New pins do form, but i can't figure out why the other pins abort like that.... 24 hours in cold water, then back in the fc.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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maybe try dunking at room temp
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
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I'll give it a hook for sure. On one cake i didn't dunk after first flush, and second flush was small and wimpy....will always dunk now...even with aborts. Maybe it's due to MS...
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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you may not need the 24 hours again either, i usually only need about 12 after the first flush
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Will try that. Read somewhere on my travels that the excess moisture might be a cause of aborted pins, which were otherwise healthy.
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can't win them all
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
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Nope, ya can't, but i'll win most!
So i just finished my agar substitute with my LC I made from my first shroom. Can't really say for sure that i'm happy with it, but i'm hopeful. Few things i realized after i was done.....
-First time i used a PC, so not sure if i left'm long enough. They were in there between 15-20 minutes after the top started dancing.
-I should've shook the syringe more between knock ups...it broke up pretty good, but i'm not sure if any pieces came out in the one drop i used.
-the poly was wet with a few droplets from condensation, as was the tip of the needle from the cooling drop after the flame. It might have made the poly even wetter going thru. Don't know if that's bad...
fuck man, every time i start knockin' up jars, i got'er down pat in my head till i get going. Then forget half the shit i know i should remember till i'm done....and i don't even smoke pot anymore!! Remember that time you had somethin' stellar to say to that chick in high school, and you went up to open your mouth and nothing came out....yeah, that's how my procedure goes. Oh well...learn learn learn!!
a few pics...Here they are all lined up, just ready to go in the PC, and a close up of'em.
 
The other thing besides the jars in there is the syringe used to suck up the LC.

all knocked up and ready to go.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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perfect make a few transfers and get yourself some agar now, this is harder to do so you got this
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19382801 - 01/07/14 02:34 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Looking good 
I am interested to see how your agar substitute works I have looked into that method as well. Have you inoculated from your honey LC yet? My first with karo never grew anything but I tried again with organic honey and it seems to be working better.
In regards to your problem with aborts I have been having the same sort of issue. Pins will turn all blue after the dunk and stall where they are at. I only dunk for 12 hours for the second flush and this seems to help some. 24 hr dunk then roll for the first, 12 hour dunk only for the 2nd and 3rd.
There are a couple times where I have harvested a cake and noticed a TON of pins coming in for the 2nd flush. In these cases where there were a lot I was too afraid to dunk thinking it would kill my chance at seeing those pins grow out. A few pins I don't mind losing but when we are talking 20-30 I leave it alone. These will continue to grow and although the weight is probably less because of a more dried out cake it is better then losing them completely IMO.
I have learned that a lot of this is a cake by cake basis. I treat each differently depending on the amount of pinning, how heavy/light the cake is, etc.
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GOt some petris on the way and will look for some agar this weekend. I got a few places in mind should carry it. There's a wholesale supplier that supplies to all the local and surrounding restaurants that should have it. Just put my new cakes in the bigger FC tonight and figure they'll pin pretty fast...been consolidating for over 2 weeks now. One's got some healthy in vitro pins even after the dunk..will clone and isolate those on the agar Two more "taller" stragglers won't be ready till tomorrow or the next day, and that's without consolidation....but they gotta go if my next round of bulk is gonna make it on time. Might even put'em in one of my smaller FC's
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SgtPepperNo9 said: Looking good 
I am interested to see how your agar substitute works I have looked into that method as well. Have you inoculated from your honey LC yet? My first with karo never grew anything but I tried again with organic honey and it seems to be working better.
In regards to your problem with aborts I have been having the same sort of issue. Pins will turn all blue after the dunk and stall where they are at. I only dunk for 12 hours for the second flush and this seems to help some. 24 hr dunk then roll for the first, 12 hour dunk only for the 2nd and 3rd.
There are a couple times where I have harvested a cake and noticed a TON of pins coming in for the 2nd flush. In these cases where there were a lot I was too afraid to dunk thinking it would kill my chance at seeing those pins grow out. A few pins I don't mind losing but when we are talking 20-30 I leave it alone. These will continue to grow and although the weight is probably less because of a more dried out cake it is better then losing them completely IMO.
I have learned that a lot of this is a cake by cake basis. I treat each differently depending on the amount of pinning, how heavy/light the cake is, etc.
All the agar sub's were knocked up with the honey LC i made. The myc looked great man...nice and white. I shook the shit out of it and sucked it up with a sterile syringe...but i think I should have shook it up a little more when i knocked'em up. The agar sub was pretty easy man, and if i can do it you can too. thanks to cronicr for hookin' me up with that. It's great for folks that can't find agar and want to get some skills. I'll keep posting their progress in this thread till i use them to start another grow.
In regards to the aborts, i'm gonna go by the weight of the cake for future dunks. If after 12 hours they feel heavy, i'll drop'em back in the FC. I think i will adopt your dunking regime because it seems to fit with my situation right now. Thanks for the confirmation man
As for harvesting the cakes with smaller pins...I'm gonna let'em grow out till no more grow, then dunk. I figure that smaller shrooms at the end of a flush are much better than aborts at the beginning of another. Once the cake is dry, it won't produce anymore anyway, until it's saturated again. And if it's not producing, it's probably not using up substrate, so all i'm really losing is a few days time. Again, i'll just give'm a lift and see how heavy they are. I agree with everything you've said there Sarge, and we seem to be on the same learning page...thanks for poppin' in man and throwing down some suggestions.
I think growing cakes is a great way to get yourself some fungi growing knowledge. I can't stop staring at them, and wondering about every variable of the grow to see where i can improve. It's like an experiment with a million variables you get to test to see which works best for you.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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Got my new cakes in the big SGFC now..and i noticed some myc growth on the agar subs this morning. I think 5 out of the 8 are showing. I'm at work now, so i'll upload some pics when i get home.
My first set of cakes is coming to an end, the third flush on my first cake is well on it's way, and it's got only two on it, but they're gonna be pretty big.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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great stuff! look foreward to some pics
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: NOTFALL3N]
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Here they are in the bigger FC. The short fat ones are orissa India, and the taller ones are Mexi cub. Two more Mexi's will be done tomorrow, and one more Orissa will prob be about 3 days or so later. I got a much better verm cover on the cakes this time, hoping to do away with some of the bluing myc stress from the empty spots on the last grow.

This cake here was consolidating for almost two weeks...it only took 21 days to colonize and was showing invitro pins shortly after full colonization. I'm hoping to clone and print the shit out of this one

So far, 7 of the 8 agar subs i knocked up are showing signs of myc growth....i'm so fuckin stoked!! I got a pic of them all, but only this one came out clear enough. I think i'll stick to spore prints for the little glass jars cuz i can't really see too well in them. I've got some petris coming soon anyway, so that will do away with that problem.
 I know it's small, but it's growth!! I can't believe my LC worked so well...got my fingers crossed that contams stay away long enough for me to get some clean cuts from it and put onto agar. Looked all day for agar around here...gonna have to go online for it.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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Looks like you have the taller ones laying on their side. Have you noticed they perform better that way? I haven't tried that yet.
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Looks like you have the taller ones laying on their side. Have you noticed they perform better that way? I haven't tried that yet.
im interested in hearing about this as well
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: absum]
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I dunno, don't have as much exp with it yet. I did notice that my second flush on taller cakes didn't dry out as fast on their sides. I got a better verm coat on them now, so hopefully we'll see. I've got two more taller cakes being dunked tonight, and placed tomorrow...I'll put one up and one down and see.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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Just want to keep a daily picture update of this LC on BRF agar sub. It seems to look pretty good so far, it's gonna be cool to see the daily growth.

And this was the last agar sub i had that had yet to show, when i got home from work i saw this...looks like i'm 8 for 8 Now, to see if i can keep the contams away!!
 Anyone know if you can store this stuff for any length of time? I don't have the means to do anything with it till i clear out an FC...or buy more, but i really don't have the room yet...
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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Anyone know if you can store this stuff for any length of time? I don't have the means to do anything with it till i clear out an FC...or buy more, but i really don't have the room yet...
Wait for someone who knows for sure but just guessing I think it wouldn't last as long as normal agar. I just have the feeling the BRF would would be more susceptible to mold or the BRF itself would start degrading. I have no clue though haha.
Pretty cool looking fuzzball you got growing on it!
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thanks bro...you should see it today. Colonizes really quick man.
I guessed the same about it...but I still can't find agar around here. I will order it, but i've been getting so many things sent to my place lately, i'm getting a little paranoid...Injection ports, spore syringes, gel caps lol.
EDIT: Been told it last for up to, and possibly over three months...more than long enough for some of the cakes i have to finish.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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Here's that agar substitute today.

here are two pics of mushrooms i suspect having something wrong with them...this one i think might have verticillium(sp)...along with the fuzzy feet

and i think i read somewhere that blue around the edge of the cap is a sign of something...
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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i think your right about the verticillium, i think the blue is just genetics, i had some cubes with that last year
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
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should i toss that cake? Is it unsafe to eat? I'll let the blue one grow out
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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Don't toss either of 'em. Don't worry about the blue and the fuzzy feet likely just means you need more FAE. Perhaps fan and mist more often.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: vikingsc]
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19404506 - 01/11/14 04:05 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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Just another pic of it today. When it gets near full, i'll try to make an animated gif of it growing, and then get right to the WBS

All 8 jars done with that LC are doing great
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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another day of growth

Here's another jar done with the same LC...it's really the first time you could see it without it looking like glare off the glass when i took the pic...

Just one cake that's fruiting...looks good

This one looks like it want's to start a fight....
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: B_BOY]
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B_BOY said: no need to keep jars in the dark. But also useless to wipe the needle AFTER flaming it. Flaming the needle till red hot is what you need to do. Do not wipe with alcohol after you flame the needle.
I never flame my needles and I never get per-colonization infections Iso alcohol is good enough for me.
Nice documentation OP! Looks really professional. You both have done some very extensive research for this first grow. You thought everything out great. Nice work 
Looking forward to seeing the fruiting stage (have't seen everything, loooong thread!)
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@ Logical Chaos: Thanks man...it is a long thread, but most of it is me asking, and getting some answers, which is why i lay down the pics.....to keep others interested....and so others might possibly pick out some error in my methods based on them. It's my first grow and i've been lurking for ever...but I seem to be catchin on pretty good, and i'm not going anywhere anytime soon 
The fruiting stage of my second set of cakes should be better than my first, with all the extra knowledge i have now. Can't wait to go bulk with mono's and WBS. That's on deck.
Thanks for stoppin by and droppin some comments man
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
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hahahahaa...cronicr...i'm gonna be sending you a nice package for all you've done for me...I've got some prints on the way for ya, and a few other things to help make your growing a little easier
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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LogicaL Chaos said: I never flame my needles and I never get per-colonization infections Iso alcohol is good enough for me.
That's fine, but this does not change the fact that your needles are never sterile, because alcohol does not sterilize....it meerley sanitizes.
Heat sterilizes, so we use heat to kill everything on the inside and outside of our needles.
Once flame sterilized, wiping the needle with an unsterile substance like alcohol is like wiping shit on your face after a shower.
It is just bad practice, along with not flaming......
Always flame sterilize the needle, but never wipe it with anything afterwards.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: PussyFart]
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Wasn't around yesterday, nor will i be much today...sick as death. Just wanted to post more pics of the LC i used on the agar substitute. I keep posting pics of the same jar so ya can see how it's growing. I'm surprised that all 8 are growing at all. They all look healthy like this...if this is healty...

The other jar that was done in a pp5. The rest are glass ones and don't maker vry good pics.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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looks healthy, but shouldn't a lc be liquid?
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: spacechildo]
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i used the lc to knock these up. The lc was made with honey and water, and the agar sub was made with BRF and h2o, then PC'd for just over 20 minutes. I only used 1 drop from the lc syringe on the agar sub, and this is what grew
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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That's what I thought, I misread it earlier. Looking good though, knock some grains up with that motha!
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: spacechildo]
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looking great! glad it's working out for ya and hope ya feel better soon
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
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This'll be my last post in this thread, as my first grow is just about over...got a few flushes left on 2 cakes, then she's done. I learned a great deal from you all and thanks to everyone for helping me out along the way.
Just wanna post a progress on the agar sub.
       That last one was taken today..i missed one day because i was sick as death.
I'm probably going to refrigerate them today to keep them from growing any more. All 8 are still great, and once i get some agar, i'll try to isolate them some more...really don't know too much about it yet though...If you want to follow along on my next set of cakes, Here's the link
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19421855
I've got Orissa Indian and Mexi cub on the go...will also clone those and see what comes of it.
Thanks again people!!!
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
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perfect, you will see much better growth once you drop it on agar, teh lower nutrtionlevels make it just take right off
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
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what do you mix with your agar? Do you use it straight from the jar with water?
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19422374 - 01/15/14 11:18 AM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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i use agar pwder potato flakes and karo, or malt extract and agar
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
#19422462 - 01/15/14 11:53 AM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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Thanks for a great read!
Now that it's all been said and done, what was the final weight (dry or wet) of your flushes?
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vikingsc
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If you have to you can also just add sterile water to one of them and mix it up to get the mycelium in the water and have a clean mycelium water to noc up jars with like an LC, but you know it's clean.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: vikingsc]
#19423008 - 01/15/14 01:57 PM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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AlwaysChildish said: Thanks for a great read!
Now that it's all been said and done, what was the final weight (dry or wet) of your flushes?
Not sure, didn't weigh'm yet. I lost about a dried gram when it fell down into the heater and i still have two cakes dunked awaiting their second flush. I'll get back to ya on a final wieght....Edit: 16.5 dried grams, plus 4 mushies drying, and the two that have yet to finish. I'm pretty happy with that for my first time.
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vikingsc said: If you have to you can also just add sterile water to one of them and mix it up to get the mycelium in the water and have a clean mycelium water to noc up jars with like an LC, but you know it's clean. 
True. I like working with LC because if you know it's clean, you don't have bring anything out in the open or take of any covers to knock up. SHIP with a red hot needle in a SAB is pretty clean.
Just planted a spent cake out in the yard...its so warm here, the 4 feet of snow melted and I could did down 6 inches with my foot. See what happens!
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Edited by 1down5up (01/15/14 02:03 PM)
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