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Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty?
    #19094215 - 11/06/13 06:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: s240779]
    #19094224 - 11/06/13 07:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: Cyclohexylamine] * 4
    #19094238 - 11/06/13 07:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yes...and then?


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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: jboredone]
    #19094241 - 11/06/13 07:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yuppp plenty, mostly malnourished...myself even a few times throughout life.

...and then?


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    #19094275 - 11/06/13 07:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: Shins]
    #19094295 - 11/06/13 08:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

when i came into this thread i didnt expect to say yes, but after seeing the comments posted, i believe that probably (guessing here) at least 50 % of this continent is malnourished 

starving, well i dont see how you could starve unless you lived in bum fuck no where

any town of a decent size and every city has food banks and what not


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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: hidenseek1] * 1
    #19094302 - 11/06/13 08:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've been poor enough to be malnourished and have had to go hungry more than a few times. Thankfully my fiancee and I are in a better situation now.


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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: NetDiver]
    #19094304 - 11/06/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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and have had to go hungry more than a few times.




How badly did it affect your mood?


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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: s240779]
    #19094308 - 11/06/13 08:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I'm not sure if it was entirely the going hungry part, because I was also under an immense amount of stress at that time to find a less shitty job that paid a livable wage, but I was pretty depressed and had horrible nightmares every night. :shrug:


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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: s240779]
    #19094339 - 11/06/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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haha yea ME

well i should say that when one finds themselves in this position, they will do whatever they can to survive.  which is what i did


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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: stzacrack]
    #19094357 - 11/06/13 08:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I knew this dude that got scurvy, I think it was more a result of eating like a retard rather than poverty though.


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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: elborito]
    #19094372 - 11/06/13 08:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What were his symptoms.

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I think it was more a result of eating like a retard rather than poverty though.




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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #19094400 - 11/06/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, absolutely, it's hard not to run into people who are struggling to find their next meal when there's a huge homeless population where you live.


I guess I could've qualified as "malnourished" to some extent when I was living off of internship stipends for a brief while. Wondering whether to buy essentials like toothpaste, TP, etc., or some food.

If I had reaally reaaally done my homework I could've eaten much better, but I was well below poverty line living in a horrible room in North Philly that ate up 3/4's of my income and not having the time to obtain a second job(internship was a 9-5, that summer I had classes from 8-10pm everyday). I ate about one meal a day on average, sometimes two, but normally I was running around and would usually have a sandwich from subway or if I was feeling it, just a frozen yogurt.

Could've lived a lot more frugally, but up until then even though I had jobs I was NOT used to poverty in any sense as my parents supported me and I came from a "cushier" situation than most people, I guess. Wouldn't trade that experience for the world though, it taught me a lot and it put a whole shitload of stuff in perspective real fast.....also wish I would've used the FOOD BANK that occurred across the street from me weekly. I had no clue what it was, I was that sheltered(honestly, it's kind of miraculous I didn't run into any problems living where I was living, and just being as fucking stupid and naive as I was in terms of street smarts), I just would open up the door on wednesday mornings to crowds of homeless people gathered on and infront of my stoop and even though some of the participants drove away in cars and stuff..I just never thought I deserved to go check it out, oddly enough. I was surviving on about 450(before rent) a month in a major northeastern city, but I never really considered the situation dire..just really, really shitty and I got sick of eating potatoes.


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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: s240779]
    #19094510 - 11/06/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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What were his symptoms.





Not sure a close friend of his told me, he was skinny and pale as fuck though.


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    #19094514 - 11/06/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i dont know how one could acquire scruvey almost everything has dat vitamin c - even in processed foods


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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19094527 - 11/06/13 09:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No idea, I know he was using a lot of speed back then so he wouldn't have been eating much.


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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: elborito]
    #19094554 - 11/06/13 09:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Most poor people in the US are obese.


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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19096256 - 11/06/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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i dont know how one could acquire scruvey almost everything has dat vitamin c - even in processed foods




I wasn't under that impression.


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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: s240779]
    #19096332 - 11/06/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Isn't scurvey commonly associated with seafood?  Or rather, people at sea?  It's a lack of fruits and veggies in the diet, which are almost impossible to get fresh out at sea. If they can get fish out at sea and still get scurvy, I guess it's a combination of lack of fruits/veggies and seafood not having enough vitamin C. 


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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: LethargicBeing]
    #19096339 - 11/06/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I was under the impression that it wasn't that uncommon for a person to have a complete lack of fruit and veggies in their diet.


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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: s240779]
    #19096461 - 11/06/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

potato chips
Vitamin C 20%

fruit juice
Vitamin C 100%

hungry man tv dinner
Vitamin C 35%

lucky charms 
Vitamin C 14%

big mac
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    #19096495 - 11/06/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Some people have as many as one of those things in their diet. And 14% RDA from a bowl of Lucky charms certainly isn't enough to prevent scurvy.


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    #19096506 - 11/06/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah potatoes actually have quite a bit of vitamin c.


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    #19096525 - 11/06/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

When I was younger, I had times where I only had 15$ a week for food....

But depending on what you eat, food prices were almost half 10 years ago. 15$ could make it on basics. Half gallon milk, rice, ramen, hot dogs, pot pies (3 for a buck!), burritos (3 for a buck!), spices from the dollar store (2 for 1$).

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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: psi]
    #19096534 - 11/06/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My chicks little bro was was. He was 6'1 and weighed 110lbs cause his parents had a serious alcohol problem and never bought food.


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    #19096537 - 11/06/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah potatoes actually have quite a bit of vitamin c.




Heat kills vitamin C. Unless it's added in as a preservative, potatoe chips do not contain any vitamin C.


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    #19096606 - 11/06/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah potatoes actually have quite a bit of vitamin c.




Heat kills vitamin C. Unless it's added in as a preservative, potatoe chips do not contain any vitamin C.




The first part of what you said is true, but cooking does not destroy all the vitamin C. Frying is about the worst though from what I'm reading though, destroying about 75%.


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    #19096630 - 11/06/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've heard it argued that because we were all once apes and fruits were a big part of our diet, we need lots of vitamin C. Amounts that could only be feasibly met via supplementation.

Another feature of humans, that is strongly indicative of our vegetarian origins, is our inability to synthesise our own internal vitamin C. This trait is very rare but, where it occurs, the animals concerned (such as guinea pigs) eat a plant-based diet. In these cases ample supplies of the vitamin are available within the food. Vitamin C plays many extremely important roles within the human body. Research seems to be always finding more functions for this ‘miracle chemical’. These have been summarised by Dr. Ross Pelton in his book ‘Mind Foods and Smart Pills’: Vitamin C stimulates the immune system, enabling one to better resist diseases. Terminal cancer patients taking megadoses of vitamin C have been found to live longer. It promotes faster wound healing and reduces the amount of cholesterol in the blood. It is a powerful detoxifier and protects against the destructive power of many pollutants. In addition, it protects the body against heart disease, reduces anxiety, and is a natural antihistamine. A severe deficiency causes scurvy, and eventually death. Increasing intake has been found to increase mental alertness and brain functioning in a variety of ways. Vitamin C is the main antioxidant that circulates in the blood. When available in sufficient quantity, blood carries it around the body, washing over the cells to create a bath of protection.

Whenever a free radical turns up, a molecule of vitamin C gives up one of its own electrons to render the free radical ineffective. According to Pelton, this process may take place somewhere between 100,000 and a million times a second, depending on the body's level of metabolism and the amount of vitamin C available. Unfortunately, with each radical decimated, a molecule of vitamin C is lost, so the body rapidly loses its supply of vitamin C. Vitamin C is a key player in keeping our neural system healthy. The body has a system that operates like a kind of a pump to concentrate vitamin C around our nerves and brain tissue. These tissues have more unsaturated fats than any other organs in the body, making them more vulnerable to attack by free radicals and oxidation. The vitamin C pump removes vitamin C from the blood as it circulates to increase the amount of vitamin C in the cerebrospinal fluid by a factor of ten. The pump then takes the concentrated vitamin C from the cerebrospinal fuid, and concentrates it tenfold again in the nerve cells around the brain and spinal cord. Thus our brain and spinal cord cells are protected against free radical damage by more than a hundred times as much vitamin C as our other body cells. For such an important chemical, it is extremely odd that we are dependent on vitamin C from outside sources. But how much of it does the body need? Research carried out by the Committee on Animal Nutrition demonstrated that monkeys needed around 55 mg. of vitamin C per kilogram of body weight. When this measure is extrapolated to humans, a 150-pound person would need a daily intake of 3,850 mg. Nutritional science recommends that a human needs 45 mg. each day. This is just enough to prevent scurvy but not enough to keep the body functioning at an optimal level. We would not, and indeed do not, obtain the sort of levels our bodies really need from a diet high in meat and low in vegetables/fruit, but we would from one high in fruit, shoots and leaves. Analysis of wild plant foods eaten by primates shows that many of these foods contain notable amounts of vitamin C. The young leaves and unripe fruit of one species of wild fig was found to contain some of the highest levels ever reported. Our closest living relatives, the great apes, eat a diet that contains between 2 and 6 grams of vitamin C every day. When our ancestors were living in the forest they would have consumed similar amounts.


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Re: Have you ever known anyone who was starving or malnourished as a result of poverty? [Re: s240779]
    #19096688 - 11/06/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I know a few people who have went hungry before, it was always their fault though.

Sold all their food stamps for drugs/alcohol, used every last penny they had for drugs/a;cohol, shit like that.


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    #19096699 - 11/06/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Damn. Not the smartest move, heh.


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