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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: TrentBoyett] * 2
    #19093917 - 11/06/13 03:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I read the whole story solely on the name Rapey-John.


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: TrentBoyett] * 2
    #19093973 - 11/06/13 04:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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evileye001 said:
not reading all that.

3 short paragraph maximum.

learn the unwritten rules of the shroomery.



Right? even if a regular came in here with a wall of text like that I probably would not read it, definitely not going to read it for a noob.




Dude, as far as I can tell, you are involved in every thread on the shroomery. I'm sure you could find the time to read something a little more detailed than usual. :shrug:

OP. I don't think we can tell you what was happening. Ya'll were fucked up. Maybe rapey John thinks you guys were really obsessed with his hair trimmer.


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: koods]
    #19094134 - 11/06/13 05:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Nah. He wanted your partner to stay. He wanted alone time with your partner. Why else would he want that? Did she want that?


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: healing]
    #19094315 - 11/06/13 08:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

He was probably asking if you were just high because of how ridiculously fucked up you must've seemed. Most people don't get that fucked from weed, but it can happen if you haven't smoked in a long time.


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: NetDiver]
    #19094411 - 11/06/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It doesn't seem like the majority of you think he's a creep so ill just drop it.  We tried to talk to him about it but he's playing the "I can't remember anything card" which I think is at least slightly BS..  It's not like we were on benzos.

Someone said he wanted her to stay, which was obviously the case.  Why he didn't arrange that with her and tried to with me I don't understand.  Like when we were leaving if he would have told her to stay and she was cool with it, I would have bounced and let them be alone..  I think he had a solid chance with her but he kinda freaked her out by cornering us into the bathroom...


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: T-Rex]
    #19094710 - 11/06/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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T-Rex said:
I read the whole story solely on the name Rapey-John.




same :lol:


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: Irfan] * 1
    #19094742 - 11/06/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Just sounds like you were really stoned and he was fucking with you. To be safe though, I'd avoid being alone with him, or your friend or whatever.

My reasoning is that if you had been slipped some date rape type drug, you'd think you wouldn't of remembered the night in such detail or been able to make it home on your own.


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I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


Edited by Shroomslip (11/06/13 10:34 AM)


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: Shroomslip]
    #19094818 - 11/06/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

OP, I read your post and I, for one do believe you did the right thing. You trusted your instincts....IME that is your right answer....Bottom line....you don't know the guy and you now have a chance to get to know him sober if you like.:sunny::peace:M


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #19094828 - 11/06/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yea i dont see much danger in still talking to him and stuff just dont get high with him ever again


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: Irfan]
    #19094872 - 11/06/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That was one strange story. "Let me give you a tour of my studio apartment/ And here's the bathroom, that completes the tour. Now would you please admire my electric clippers, and while you're at it, unplug them. Wasn't that fascinating? Are you enjoying the PCP I laced my weed with? Oh, you didn't notice? Please GTFO, but leave your friend here so I may take advantage of her now with my PCP gifted super human strength"

Or something like that. Definitely creepy.


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: Irfan]
    #19094941 - 11/06/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Irfan said:
It doesn't seem like the majority of you think he's a creep so ill just drop it.  We tried to talk to him about it but he's playing the "I can't remember anything card" which I think is at least slightly BS..  It's not like we were on benzos.

Someone said he wanted her to stay, which was obviously the case.  Why he didn't arrange that with her and tried to with me I don't understand.  Like when we were leaving if he would have told her to stay and she was cool with it, I would have bounced and let them be alone..  I think he had a solid chance with her but he kinda freaked her out by cornering us into the bathroom...




You said that he had already arranged for her to stay. How long have you been calling him "rapey John"? It sounds like you have preconceived notions, possibly even jealousy issues regarding him, which were inflamed by the paranoia typical of some good weed. :freud:

Sorry to be unsympathetic, but I just don't see the part of the story where you give a better explanation for thinking somebody you don't know anything about and who never actually did anything coercive is "rapey". I'm sorry you had a bad experience, anyway. Maybe think twice about smoking weed in the future? (seriously)


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #19094957 - 11/06/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I dont get the 'rapey' part either. And as fucked up as you say you guys were, it's pretty hard to even understand what the situation was or wasnt. BTW, getting completely blitzed with someone you barely know is pretty stupid.. what would you really have done if things had actually turned out bad?


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #19094959 - 11/06/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

dude he was fucking with their heads, op is not the one to blame here, at least not by much..


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: zZZz]
    #19094971 - 11/06/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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dude he was fucking with their heads, op is not the one to blame here, at least not by much..




It honestly does sound like he was horny and trying to do a clumsy come-on while high, but that's not "rapey" unless it's backed up with the threat of coercion. I like how OP said she told him "you're going to let her come with me" as if his expressing his desire that she stay represented a threat of some kind. :facepalm: Serious, jealousy issues.

If she has to drop out of school because she feels too awkward hanging around this guy anymore it's her own fault.


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #19094989 - 11/06/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

he was blitz and sounds like he was just looking out for his friend. i didn't get any jealousy vibes in his story, just fear and confusion.


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: koods]
    #19094991 - 11/06/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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not reading all that.

3 short paragraph maximum.

learn the unwritten rules of the shroomery.



Right? even if a regular came in here with a wall of text like that I probably would not read it, definitely not going to read it for a noob.




Dude, as far as I can tell, you are involved in every thread on the shroomery. I'm sure you could find the time to read something a little more detailed than usual. :shrug:




Don't you think "involved" is a little too strong a word? Where's rule 4 when you need it? Honest to God.


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #19094993 - 11/06/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

should we start a petition to get mjmihalov off the forums? :lol:  jk mjmihalov, u kool.


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: zZZz] * 1
    #19095030 - 11/06/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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he was blitz and sounds like he was just looking out for his friend. i didn't get any jealousy vibes in his story, just fear and confusion.




The first paragraph is about how irfan and "B" have been secretly sleeping together. OP also discusses routinely becoming paranoid and anxious when smoking weed before.

I'm just connecting dots here, I could have totally the wrong take, but it looks like some unconscious jealousy (exacerbated by drink and smoke) colored the whole situation. It sucks that he made them uncomfortable but I also think drugging and intent to rape are horrendous accusations to lob around without good cause, which I just don't see here.


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #19095296 - 11/06/13 01:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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It doesn't seem like the majority of you think he's a creep so ill just drop it. We tried to talk to him about it but he's playing the "I can't remember anything card" which I think is at least slightly BS.. It's not like we were on benzos.

Someone said he wanted her to stay, which was obviously the case. Why he didn't arrange that with her and tried to with me I don't understand. Like when we were leaving if he would have told her to stay and she was cool with it, I would have bounced and let them be alone.. I think he had a solid chance with her but he kinda freaked her out by cornering us into the bathroom...




You said that he had already arranged for her to stay. How long have you been calling him "rapey John"? It sounds like you have preconceived notions, possibly even jealousy issues regarding him, which were inflamed by the paranoia typical of some good weed. :freud:

Sorry to be unsympathetic, but I just don't see the part of the story where you give a better explanation for thinking somebody you don't know anything about and who never actually did anything coercive is "rapey". I'm sorry you had a bad experience, anyway. Maybe think twice about smoking weed in the future? (seriously)




I'm not sure you understood me right.

He may have arranged for her to stay but it was all in his head, without her knowledge or approval. Hence the rapey feel which by the way encompasses a hint of sarcasm. Do I think he was about to hold her down and force himself on her? No.  Was he trying to get her blitzed, alone, and into bed, possibly...  With that said let’s not call it an accusation, as im not calling him out on this amongst our friends or anything.. I meant it with a hint of sarcasm to begin with...


When he whispered to me that he wanted her to stay I felt cornered and protective.  It was hard not to considering that directly preceding this comment he was suggesting that we had done more substances than we had signed on to do (or at least that was our interpretation)...  I recognize that I was super high and paranoid.  I suddenly felt protective and that’s just how it went down... I asked B if I was in the wrong and she said she wasn't giving him any signals and had no arrangements with him, and she would have no reason lie about that. She’s really happy I got her out of there.  Jealousy plays no role in our friendship; she hooks up with other dudes regularly. I have an open relationship with my SO, if jealousy had any place in my life I would chose not to have the lifestyle that I currently have. 

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I also think drugging and intent to rape are horrendous accusations to lob around without good cause, which I just don't see here.




I agree the accusation of drugging us is a big one.  Hence why im venting on here and not calling him out in public about it.  He’s the one that brought it up, and now he conveniently doesn’t remember anything so we can’t talk it out…  I’m stuck man.  At this point if he wants to pretend it never happened I will play along, I don’t really have a choice..  I said from the beginning I don’t think we were really drugged, but that’s based on my own past experiences with drugs.  He is the one that tried to plant the thought in our head.  :shrug:


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Re: Dude got all rapey on my friend. He may have drugged us, idk… [Re: Irfan]
    #19095392 - 11/06/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

"Calling him out on" what, exactly? His generosity with some legit kron? So graciously rewarded with paranoid suspicion that he's doing you a favor by pretending not to remember? Y'a'ight. :imout:


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