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Central valley proof of life
    #19093360 - 11/05/13 11:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Went by the local campus yesterday. It seems the diversity is coming back for the winter, rain or no rain.

Unidentified Agaricus on a neighbor's lawn, spotted on the way:



Agaricus californicus showing signs of domestic abuse [heavy foot traffic on this lawn, and low mowing pretty much obliterate mushrooms once to twice per week]:



Coprinellus micaceus group, on an ailing oak [presumed, do not recall]:



A curious Amanita. Pictures do not show the greenish tones. Imagine my confusion when I could find no evidence of a volva whatsoever:



Tubaria sp?



Didn't have the chance to inspect this Agaricus:



Psathyrella candolleana:



I have not been able really to place this Agaricus. A. campestris would be close but it has a strong anise scent in buttons, not fading completely in maturity. Cap aging slightly yellowish and stipe base aging faintly red-brown. I'd not hesitate to try a little of it.



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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: canid]
    #19094159 - 11/06/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for sharing!


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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #19094218 - 11/06/13 07:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't hesitate to eat the last agaricus. One nice thing about the genus is that you can almost always ID edibility based on macroscopic features without ever IDing the actual species!?! The faint amber, robust stature and anise scent make me think horse. Here in the PNW the horse mushrooms seem to have a slight gamey-ness that I don't care for. If you have a microscope you could ID it more certainly. Though I don't believe that's necessary to safely eat it if that's as far as you want to take things.


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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: Chuck H]
    #19094225 - 11/06/13 07:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Indeed. I'm seriously deficient in the identification of Agaricus, mostly because it's not been terribly necessary.

I still approach a new species of form with caution, to avoid the more serious gastric upset one can get by 'jumpin in' with them on the first eating.

I don't seem to have the trehalose intolerance that many have, but I would bet there are other irritants in some of the questionable Agaricus about which I know nothing.

I do have a really nice cheaposcope.


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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: canid]
    #19094244 - 11/06/13 07:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've narrowed it down to this for agaricus:

If it has a felty ring, graysh colorations, yellow bruising stem base, a phenolic or any off putting odor, don't eat it! It's really that simple. None of the above features will be present in an edible agaricus. With one possible exception

Agaricus hondensis can have a very thin felty ring that might pass for skirt like on specimens. It also has lovely tawny brown fibrils with little to no gray coloration. The phenolic odor can be almost undetectable and the stem base bruises yellow only faintly.

If you get to know hondensis and follow the first pargraph criteria the odds of eating a poisonous agaricus, whether you know the species or not are almost non existent.


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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: Chuck H]
    #19094246 - 11/06/13 07:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Chuck H said:
The phenolic odor can be almost undetectable




til you put it in a pan :laugh:


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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: canid]
    #19094255 - 11/06/13 07:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:cool: pics canid!! lol, i thought you were over here with the rest of us jealous east coasters!


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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: art2312]
    #19094259 - 11/06/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No, I'm just over in the San Joaquin Valley. It's a hop, skip and a jump from the coast, but it's a whole different world climatically.

Are any of you not seeing the pictures?

I'm going to try to start uploading most of my pictures to the shroomery, but when I have to up them from my phone, it's easiest to do so via photobucket.

I have a lot of trouble with the image proxy mind media uses most of the time.


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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: canid]
    #19094267 - 11/06/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

my roommate in fla was from the san Diego area...he always talked about how beautiful it is there....especially the disc golf!! and im having no problems seeing you pictures on my phone or laptop.


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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: art2312]
    #19113569 - 11/10/13 07:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Nothing spectacular in the photography department, but I got back out:



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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: canid]
    #19113731 - 11/10/13 08:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

7 from the bottom, is an Agaricus, correct? You know the sp.? I LOVE that pic!!!


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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: art2312]
    #19113771 - 11/10/13 08:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Correct. I can't remember any longer which, but it is likely A. californicus. Allowing that there finally are other species to be found again, they still account for about 90-95% of the members of that genus to be seen around here. I do recall it was scalped by the lawnmower.


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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: canid]
    #19113778 - 11/10/13 08:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Wait a min, I misread that. 7th from the bottoom is also Agaricus, but is certainly not californicus.

Agaricus arvensis group perhaps, though that doesn't account for the brownish bruising on the lower stipe, does it?


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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: canid]
    #19113788 - 11/10/13 08:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

nice update, good to see you getting out.


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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #19113821 - 11/10/13 09:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Wow...that much of the Agaricus out there is one sp.?!?! Hostile takeover!! And are those Panaeolus sp in the pics above the Agaricus? Sorry so many questions.... I just feel I've been slacking lately on the names. SO many times, I see a mushroom and say "damn! I've seen this 20 times and I can't remember the freakin name!!" Anyways, nice to see you got out and had some cool finds!


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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: art2312]
    #19113886 - 11/10/13 09:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yes; Panaeolus foenisecii. The only Panaeolus evident in any of the park/lawn environments so far this year.

I am starting to see the odd winter Deconica in the grass as well, and will likely post those as I may. For now, here's a photo of a couple I collected to photograph, because I did not have my camera handy when I found them. They are likely either D. castanella or, less likely, D. inquilinus.



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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: canid]
    #19113985 - 11/10/13 09:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Forgive all my ignorance today, but I'm now very confused...I looked up Deconica and it said it used to be synonymous with Psilocybe, but then they separated the two... but it says Deconica has hallucinogenic species and non hallucinogenic species... so they are not separated? It says Deconica could be used synonymously with liberty caps...


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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: art2312]
    #19113999 - 11/10/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's a little muddled, yes. It may just be that they are not representing the split between the active and inactive species as well as they'd hoped. I'm not remotely current on it.


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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: canid]
    #19114060 - 11/10/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Damn...Mycology is very incomplete it seems...very confusing at times...probably just me tho. Thank you :smile:


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Re: Central valley proof of life [Re: art2312]
    #19114068 - 11/10/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

art2312 said:
probably just me tho




No, it's the mycology. It's making a ton of progress though. There's far too much of it for me to absorb as it is though.


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