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how is Ghost?
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I am waiting for the PS4 before i get it and I am still on the fence between ghost and BF4. always been a COD guy, but BF4 looked pretty good (played BF3 and wasn't thrilled with it).
I read a few reviews and a few of them blasted the MP of Ghost, rating it like 6.5 out of 10, but those same reviewers thought MW2 was the worst game in the series and thought Bops 2 was the best (couldn't be more wrong). So i take their reviews with a grain of salt.
I really want to know how much the leaning fucks things up. that is the one thing that bothered me the most about Ghost news.
also, do they still have hardcore and HQ and domination?
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how can you be on the fence?
battlefield is better than COD in every way shape and form. SOOO much better
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until BF4, BF has never held any interest for me. BF had rigid movement, no fluidity to it and camping seemed to be rewarded rather than punished. Plus vehicle spamming gets kind of old after a while.
have you played ghost and BF4? if not, then you are just a fanboy who is angry that a fraction of people play BF compared to COD.
if you have, then please, explain why BF4 is better than Ghost.
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SneezingPenis said: until BF4, BF has never held any interest for me. BF had rigid movement, no fluidity to it and camping seemed to be rewarded rather than punished. Plus vehicle spamming gets kind of old after a while.
have you played ghost and BF4? if not, then you are just a fanboy who is angry that a fraction of people play BF compared to COD.
if you have, then please, explain why BF4 is better than Ghost.
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Well, I haven't played ghost, BUT call of duty has been releasing IDENTICAL games with new names for many years now. If it is actually improved I would be SHOCKED. (I am aware they make tiny little changes)
Rigid movement? I cannot explain the genius that is BF3. If you don't see it, you just don't see it. The main advantage is that teamwork is highly encouraged/rewarded more so than in other games.
AND the engine and psychics are the best I have ever seen in a FPS. and the vehicles are veryyy well done. Everything about the game is well done except the servers are down sometimes
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I doubt you even know what you are talking about. seems to me you have never even played COD, or if you did you broke a controller because you got your ass kicked trying to camp in a corner.
COD has two developers that release a COD title every other year. everything Treyarch has put out is unbalanced and then nerfed every month, but they did listen to fans and implement great game modes and killstreaks (probably correlated to accepting suggestions). IW always made extremely balanced games and unlike treyarch, punished campers rather than placating the lowest common denominator.
you ever wonder why they didn't make a sequel to the rubix cube or really change tetris (dr mario is basically the same thing)? because you can't improve on perfection.
I gave BF3 a chance, but it has slow gameplay compared to COD... hopefully BF4 improves on the CQC and speed of the game.
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also, EA is a miserable developer. They come out with a good madden about every 5 years, yet release one every year, same goes for Tiger Woods golf. They are half ass developers that sacrifice certain things in order to capture all demographics, rather than acknowledging that the gamer demographic is the people who were born in the late 70's to the late 80's.
that is what the Wii is for: women and children. go develop games on that system and stop shitting on bread and butter titles.
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SneezingPenis said: I doubt you even know what you are talking about. seems to me you have never even played COD, or if you did you broke a controller because you got your ass kicked trying to camp in a corner.
COD has two developers that release a COD title every other year. everything Treyarch has put out is unbalanced and then nerfed every month, but they did listen to fans and implement great game modes and killstreaks (probably correlated to accepting suggestions). IW always made extremely balanced games and unlike treyarch, punished campers rather than placating the lowest common denominator.
you ever wonder why they didn't make a sequel to the rubix cube or really change tetris (dr mario is basically the same thing)? because you can't improve on perfection.
I gave BF3 a chance, but it has slow gameplay compared to COD... hopefully BF4 improves on the CQC and speed of the game.
You can't improve upon perfection: thats a phrase you use to describe COD? I'm not trying to bicker here, but that says it all for who 'knows what they're talking about.' Thats both hilarious and fucking sad 
I know a lot about COD, used to follow the series for years. Yes EA is usually a shitty developer, but they have this one gem.
Sounds like you barely gave BF3 a chance. You're awfully quick to start talking shit too, which is laughable.
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Your "they don't change COD because you can't improve on perfection" quote is getting a fair amount of LOL's on my twitter
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MW1 and 2 are hands down the best FPS's of all time currently. there isn't even any point in arguing this. MW3 was alright, but it got away from what made MW1 and 2 so great.
WaW was laughable, and the blackops seemed to be the precursor to MW1 rather than games that came after it.
just wait, in 10 or 20 years, when sony buys microsoft and there is only one console left and it is virtual immersion reality or whatnot and IGN makes a "top 10 greatest FPS of all time", MW1 and 2 will be #1 and #2 on any and every list with the BF's getting middled and probably put behind Goldeneye.
you just sold me on Ghost btw, because if faggots like you are on BF4 then it has to be the AAA bush league shit and a pretty good indication of why COD always will outsell it 2 to 1.
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You know whats really great about BF. It's that all the vehicles are there to fly and drive (unlike COD) and they are all balanced.
Having 2 helicopters and 4 jets buzzing around, while tanks are charging objectives, and engineers are trying to take them all out with missles and mines the whole time. And a plethora of other shit going on, every single match.
It introduces a much greater possibility for EPIC moments than a game with only infantry.
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Strongly agree, BF over COD always
Every COD game feels the same to me, Battlefield on the other hand is evolving
The new snipers are the shit: 40x scopes, scoping in distances and infrared spotting binoculars, motion sensor grenades
Sniping in cod feels so empty compared to battlefields version
I would type more but I gotta get back, the game is calling me
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i think it is a little more epic when you kill 18 people without dying to fly a chopper gunner rather than just spawning next to a jet.
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i will admit the sniping is better, but that is basically what the game is designed around. any other shooting is way less fun. killstreaks and customizable loadouts (not just 4 basic classes) are restrictive.
In COD you can make a shit ton of classes designed for any number of situations.
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SneezingPenis said: i will admit the sniping is better, but that is basically what the game is designed around. any other shooting is way less fun. killstreaks and customizable loadouts (not just 4 basic classes) are restrictive.
In COD you can make a shit ton of classes designed for any number of situations.
I think maybe you don't know how to aim properly in that game. It is pretty different and takes some getting used to.
But once you get used to bullet drop, and NEEDING to fire in bursts at longer range for automatic weapons; it starts feeling beautiful.
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must be hard to do when they move so slow.
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They move plenty fast, and you can use vehicles if you NEED to go faster
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ok, sure, BF is the same pace as COD...
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you can't go wrong with either
next gen call of duty has a 40gb install for 1080p graphics and 18player count on servers
while battlefield 4 has a 64 player count and probably looks good as well
I'm probably going to the store late november to see how the controllers feel, my friends are all xdorks
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: Konyap]
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Illyabo said: you can't go wrong with either
next gen call of duty has a 40gb install for 1080p graphics and 18player count on servers
while battlefield 4 has a 64 player count and probably looks good as well
I'm probably going to the store late november to see how the controllers feel, my friends are all xdorks
there you have it right there. Just the number of players per server.
and BF is far more pretty than COD
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yeah because MAG worked out so well...
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SneezingPenis, COD has been absolute shit since MW2. AND YOU CAN'T SAY I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE I ALWAYS PLAY MY BROTHER'S COPY OF THE NEW ONES SO I CAN SEE JUST HOW MUCH WORSE THEY'VE GOTTEN.  I'm not a Battlefield fanboy either so don't even try using that tactic, though while I didn't love Battlefield 3 much and prefer the earlier ones, they're still better than COD.
Face it. COD is and has been dead. The only reason it's still limping around is because of all the fanboys who can't let it go.
Also by the way you're attacking everyone in this thread, you seem to have a pretty shitty attitude, like most of the children playing COD nowadays.
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Dude, I have already said in as many words that the last 3 COD releases have sucked compared to MW1&2.
But that is mostly because treyarch sucks and IW was going through some internal issues during MW3. Treyarch just sucks straight up. The only reason I bought Bops 2 was because BF3 wasn't much better and MW3 was nothing but hacked lobbies after the latest release.
None of that means Ghost sucks.
As for being dead... If COD outsells BF 2 to 1 what does that say about BF?
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to me, and this is just my opinion, being dead has nothing to do with sales, but with a series that has failed to innovate it's games in any substantial way besides some more perks and map packs.
And if I'm being honest, BF4 looks pretty samey to BF3 so I'm not in any way trying to defend it either.
But you can't really sit there and deny that COD hasn't even tried to innovate in a VERY long time, and it's most certainly not because it's some perfect gaming formula.
You mentioned how Maddens and other similar games get churned out repeatedly while still managing to be almost exactly the same, that's almost exactly what the COD franchise has become for FPS's. Sure they might not come out every single year, but it's close, and the biggest changes they make are more often than not just a reskinning of the previous one along with some new perks and maps.
I'm not trying to hate on you man, COD used to be one of my favorite franchises, but after MW1 they simply decided to become cash cows while making atrocious story lines for singleplayer (MW3 anyone?) and copy and pasting the multiplayer.
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I always hear people say they haven't come up with anything new but each new gun and kills real has to be fit in perfectly. They never offer any examples either. Like how should they add to the game?
Look at Goldeneye vs Perfect Dark, exact same game except one thing ruined perfect dark, that gun that could shoot through anything.
Without some truly epic changes in the way video games are played (kinect is such a failure) I don't see how you can expect drastic change from something confined by the letters F, P and S.
What was so evolutionary from MW1 to MW2? Killstreaks. To MW3? Deathstreaks.
Ghost seems to have made more controllable and tactical killstreaks and dynamic maps. The genre is FPS, the entire genre is 20 years old and not much has changed since Wolfenstein.
Frankly, it is hardware capabilities that are restricting this "newness" that everyone expects, the developers can only work with what they got.
What is the difference between the iPhone 3 and the 5? iMessage? Yet fakers line up by the millions every 6 months to buy rehashed technology. That is just how it goes. Atleast with the games you get new maps, tactics and guns.
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On my phone so some of those questionable words are typos. Like kill reals is killstreaks and I can't remember what I was typing for "fakers".
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What is the difference between the iPhone 3 and the 5? iMessage? Yet fakers line up by the millions every 6 months to buy rehashed technology. That is just how it goes. Atleast with the games you get new maps, tactics and guns.
I will never in my life understand why people choose to keep buying "updated" iphones, they're completely needless, I myself have never owned an iphone and I don't plan on ever getting one, though my entire family sure has jumped on that bandwagon.
you say that's just how it is, but the point I'm trying to get across is that it shouldn't be that way, following a formula to a T makes developers afraid to try new things besides what you said, new guns that aren't REALLY new, some occasionally new maps that aren't actually based off of or reimagined successful maps from a previous games, and more perks that give the illusion of further customization.
As for new tactics, I'm gonna have to 100% disagree with you there man, COD is not a very tactical game, you can play MW2 all your life, then pick up a controller and play BO2 the same exact way.
Now aside from multiplayer, singleplayer has undeniably gotten worse with each game, after MW1 they stopped treating you like a regular soldier thrust into war, now we're closer to super soldiers who can take on hundreds of men by himself, it's just ridiculous.
It reminds me of the differences between the first die hard and die hard 4 where Bruce Willis has gone from regular old joe thrust into a hostage situation to driving a car into a helicopter, and I would bet serious money that Ghost, while it will have a few memorable set pieces sprinkled throughout, the rest will boil down to your run of the mill samey corridor filled shooter.
But that's just my opinion man. I'm not saying don't go out and buy Ghost and it's not like my opinion would change your mind anyway.
It's just how I feel.
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Buying cod for the single player is like buying condoms for masturbation.
So do you have any suggestions on how to be innovative and new in the FPS genre?
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SneezingPenis said: Buying cod for the single player is like buying condoms for masturbation.
So do you have any suggestions on how to be innovative and new in the FPS genre?
Why is that? just because it's gotten so lousy? You forget the first CODs were mainly singleplayer, and great ones at that. So to suggest that it's ok to have shit single player when that's how the series began is ludicrous.
If COD is supposed to be a war game then why doesn't it actually feel like one? The newer games have lost the essence of what they were originally about. If I can say one thing about Battlefield it's that it actually feels like being on a battlefield.
I've also already stated that I believe the series had run it's course a long time ago, nor am I a game developer so I'm not gonna sit here and list off imaginary reasons for what I think they could do just to satisfy you.
Also, you're acting like all FPS are like COD or Battlefield, that's also not true. You can do a lot more with the FPS genre than pop 16 players into a small map and say go kill each other.
Edit: Anyway at this point I feel like we're just beating a dead horse, I'm not gonna change your mind (not that I was trying to) and you aren't gonna change mine.
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I don't see a difference between using the term FPS is any different than saying "run around killing each other".
And Cod feels plenty chaotic.
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we just disagree man, simple as that.
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I'm reading comments about it and it sounds like they fucked up big time advertising custom avatars on 8 year old systems
apparently the net code is shit too.
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SneezingPenis said: i will admit the sniping is better, but that is basically what the game is designed around. any other shooting is way less fun. killstreaks and customizable loadouts (not just 4 basic classes) are restrictive.
In COD you can make a shit ton of classes designed for any number of situations.
Designed around sniping? The sniper kit can also use Carbines, Designated Marksmen Rifles, and Shotguns. They gave the sniper motion sensor grenades and C4 so it could go in close. The sniping is rather difficult in normal mode where it takes two shots, a headshot, or an already injured target to get a kill and on many maps using sniper rifles isn't ideal.
I have to change positions a great deal when sniping out of buildings as they often figure out where I am and start ripping the walls, or whole building down. Of course it is also to my advantage to blow some walls down as I can get better views and safer angles from them.
For the sniper who sets up in spots there are claymores and TUGS that can be set up; did I mention the variable zoom and range finders that can be added as part of the rifle.
I didn't play much recon/support in BF3 since there weren't many maps that I found worth using them on. I usually play assault or engineer on BF4 but have been into the support and recon the past day in order to unlock the new weapons and gadgets, in doing so I have discovered them to be worth playing on most maps in this game.
Anyone heard of Titanfall, apparently a good number of those behind COD:MW are banding together to make it
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mushroom_sandwich said: to me, and this is just my opinion, being dead has nothing to do with sales, but with a series that has failed to innovate it's games in any substantial way besides some more perks and map packs.
And if I'm being honest, BF4 looks pretty samey to BF3 so I'm not in any way trying to defend it either.
But you can't really sit there and deny that COD hasn't even tried to innovate in a VERY long time, and it's most certainly not because it's some perfect gaming formula.
You mentioned how Maddens and other similar games get churned out repeatedly while still managing to be almost exactly the same, that's almost exactly what the COD franchise has become for FPS's. Sure they might not come out every single year, but it's close, and the biggest changes they make are more often than not just a reskinning of the previous one along with some new perks and maps.
I'm not trying to hate on you man, COD used to be one of my favorite franchises, but after MW1 they simply decided to become cash cows while making atrocious story lines for singleplayer (MW3 anyone?) and copy and pasting the multiplayer. 
Man, everything you say makes sense to me. And I have often thought the exact thought myself.
Sneezing penis, you asked how I would improve COD? Add vehicles, make bigger maps, more players per server online, more realism. Basically more like battlefield
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i dont think more players per server is really better. for Bops 2 my most played game type was multi-team: 3 teams of 3.
I played that when i didn't have enough clan members online to make a full party to play HQ. It was much more preferable to have 2 dumbasses on my team rather than 5.
I tried MAG beta and it was a clusterfuck.
and observatory just basically explained why BF players don't like COD.
I don't mind BF, in fact, I am still on the fence on which to get (not out of monetary issues, but because I need to pick only one since I get really into a game). "I snipe I have to move"... lol.
Camping gets 1 kill on me, then I find you, knife you and teabag you. When i played BF, i started out trying to be all aggressive, but the game is built around being a pussy. I watched teammates hiding around corners rather than help with the objective because they were too scared.
frankly, it was the other players in BF that turned me off of it, not the gameplay.
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frankly, it was the other players in BF that turned me off of it, not the gameplay.
You played with some retards who aren't into teamwork 
If you play with a real team and everyone has MIC's, shit gets real.
That game is nott about camping. If there is a game that exists that is all about camping, it is COD over BF
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A bit long, but here is a nice review about Ghost. PC version.
And here is followup on that video since a video setting was not set correctly and someother things where tweaked. It still didn't really change his mind.
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: 4runner]
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I will eventually get ghost. But BF4 is a priority.
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I'm liking it a lot but I don't see how people buy call of duty games and play that shit on ps3/360
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battlefield is better than COD in every way shape and form. SOOO much better
I disagree, before the series really turned to shit games like cod4 mw cod2 and cod1 had extreme aspects of realism cod4 was where it started to go bad disarming nukes in mid air etc.
Games like bf have always had pretty shit campaigns. I mean, what was the last good bf campaign? Bfbc1 and parts of bf3 in the middle east? Its multiplayer aspect has always DESTROYED cod, but thats not its entirety
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I play both COD and Battlefield.. You look pretty damn silly making assumptions about a game you've never played.
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One thing thats been pissing me off about bf4 is all the damn fanatics playing the game I cant spawn next to someone without getting shot in the back of the head. Dudes at like rank 60 and the game has barely been out over a week lmfao
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: Konyap]
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third person i have heard complain about BF4 spawn trapping...
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You're supposed to spawn at home base
thought everyone knew that?
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: Konyap]
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home base...
BF= baseball
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lol battlefield is definitely a war game
CoD is like some gangsta shit yo!
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: Konyap]
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is there anything like Search and Destroy for BF?
i doubt you could find a more tactical or nerve wracking gameplay. S&D can get pretty intense. the only reason i don't play S&D is because they don't randomize the spawns. people play it so much they can count their steps and throw a grenade and kill 1 or 2 people.... every time.
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They have like king of the hill/assault where it starts small and it getts bigger and bigger
then it's primarily domination or team deathmatch
in ghost it's search and rescue same rules but if you don't kill confirm the guy you shot someone could run by to grab it and he will respawn somewhere else
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i dont know if it is just a bunch of whiners in both games or what, but I haven't heard anyone say "yeah, this game is fucking awesome" about either one.
I am straight up run and gun rambo style with a shotgun. have over 40k kills with the remington in Bops 2. talking to some guy he said the shotguns in Ghost are useless, which sucks... who knows maybe that guy just sucked.
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I am straight up run and gun rambo style with a shotgun. have over 40k kills with the remington in Bops 2. talking to some guy he said the shotguns in Ghost are useless, which sucks... who knows maybe that guy just sucked.
it's really dumb to even talk about call of duty
unless you're asking about how fun their extra mode is or did they bring back lag and super stopping power then there is essentially no point... you just got done playing the other one before you went out and bought the new one
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If there are significant improvements to the new COD may lightning strike me down 
Someone said something about the BF campaign being shitty. 1) to me the game is not about the campaign at all. because yes, it sucks. 2) COD campaigns are equally as shitty.
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I mean its unlikely but games do change.. All the time..
I guess I don't get upset about the campaigns so maybe that's why I feel different about it.
But even taking that into consideration, I still believe that all game series have a possibility to change. That is seen all the time.
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BF 4 is awesome, there you go.
COD:Ghosts looks like it's pre-2010, thus it sucks.
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: Everlong]
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SneezingPenis said: i dont know if it is just a bunch of whiners in both games or what, but I haven't heard anyone say "yeah, this game is fucking awesome" about either one.
BF 4 is awesome, there you go.
COD:Ghosts looks like it's pre-2010, thus it sucks.
My opinion is worth gold, if anyone wasn't aware.
agreed.
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SneezingPenis said: i dont know if it is just a bunch of whiners in both games or what, but I haven't heard anyone say "yeah, this game is fucking awesome" about either one.
BF 4 is awesome, there you go.
COD:Ghosts looks like it's pre-2010, thus it sucks.
My opinion is worth gold, if anyone wasn't aware.
so far there has been, what... 1 person who has actually played both ghost and BF4. seriously, if you haven't played both of them and then make a comment about the other I am assuming it is solely out of butt hurt fanboi-ism.
also, if you think anything treyarch made was better than the CODs that IW made, your opinion is invalid to me. as for EA, they are suspect of making shitty games and hand holding.
Bethesda seems to be the only company that gives a shit about what they put out.
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I don't need to play it to know how the game performs. There are plenty of video reviews out there that show how completely trashy it looks and plays.
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I don't enjoy any of the COD games, if I wanted to play an arcade shooter I would be playing Counter Strike.
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Bethesda releases some of the buggiest games to hit the gaming market, please. I'm not saying I dislike their games, but come on.
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: Everlong]
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i meant in terms of gameplay and originality. bugs can be fixed. rushing games out is part of the culture.
but saying "i dont need to play a game to know it sucks" is just retarded. you don't seem to hold the same logic when it comes to BF because there are plenty of reviews slamming that game as well...
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I like it reminds me of mw2 (my favorite)
Some of the maps are pretty convoluted but it isn't bad.
The alien mode is pretty fun as well.
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: Enjoywho]
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Enjoywho said: I like it reminds me of mw2 (my favorite)
Some of the maps are pretty convoluted but it isn't bad.
The alien mode is pretty fun as well.
how bad is the camping? and how much has the game geared itself to aid campers vs not aiding campers?
how much is the new "leaning" feature affecting the game? like have you accidentally leaned when you didnt want to?
i always find that for the first few weeks of a release people camp harder because they don't know the maps, so take that into account...
i also heard the shotguns are useless... how balanced are the guns?
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SneezingPenis said: but saying "i dont need to play a game to know it sucks" is just retarded. you don't seem to hold the same logic when it comes to BF because there are plenty of reviews slamming that game as well...
It's not retarded, I can base my opinion off of what others have experienced. The gameplay looks horrid, I watched multiple videos in which there was unusual amounts of model animation errors, the game doesn't look fluid at all. The hit box on the players looks like CS 1.6 did a better job.
The menus for choosing your weapons/skills/whatever look down right ugly. For instance, have you seen the images they use for the weapons? Looks like something made for a flash game. And don't get me started on the in game textures.
Like I said earlier, if I wanted to play an arcade shooter, I'd just opt for Counter Strike instead.
Also I'm not a BF fanboy at all, I have my own complaints about BF4 but I'll save that for another thread.
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so your complaint is about the graphics on a game that you havent seen played on the platform it was designed on and for?
retarded...
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oh and also, i guess minecraft sucks too...
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I only played for a couple hours so no real opinion onx camping.
It's annoying on some of the bigger maps though they cut off all the good sniper lanes with with misc crap. Kind of lame sniping is only for quick scoping these days.
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: Enjoywho]
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yeah i heard they kind of nerfed the quick scoping (i hope). treyarch always seemed more into that than IW anyway.
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Not really my little brother and his friends are pro at that shit and they still smash. I used to get stoned and just watch my brother quick scope so insane.
I really haven't played cod since mw2 lost interest.
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SneezingPenis said: i dont know if it is just a bunch of whiners in both games or what, but I haven't heard anyone say "yeah, this game is fucking awesome" about either one.
BF 4 is awesome, there you go.
COD:Ghosts looks like it's pre-2010, thus it sucks.
My opinion is worth gold, if anyone wasn't aware.
so far there has been, what... 1 person who has actually played both ghost and BF4. seriously, if you haven't played both of them and then make a comment about the other I am assuming it is solely out of butt hurt fanboi-ism.
also, if you think anything treyarch made was better than the CODs that IW made, your opinion is invalid to me. as for EA, they are suspect of making shitty games and hand holding.
Bethesda seems to be the only company that gives a shit about what they put out.
Yeah, bethesda is an always will be an amazing company. But skyrim was the shittiest game they have put out to date.
And sneezing penis, you are like the most defensive, butthurt fan boy of them all. This whole thread is full of it 
"oh, you don't like the graphics in ghosts? you must think minecraft is retarded." nope, but i think you are 13 and need to learn how to communicate better.
And I'm not talking out my ass about already knowing ghosts will be as shitty and identical to every other game in the series as all the others. If I turn out wrong and it is actually decent, I will renounce my opinions and suck your dick. I know it in my heart.
They wouldn't make 10 identical games in a row and then make an innovative 11th. it makes no sense (mainly because fanboys like yourself will buy/love it no matter what)
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I loved skyrim have no idea what your talking about. Stopped reading after that.
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: Enjoywho]
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compared to earlier games in the series like morrowind and oblivion? way less to do, yada yada yada tons of reasons for me.
if skyrim is the first elder scrolls game you're playing yeah its fucking amazing i'm sure.
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i think you are guilty of nostalgia and over-exposure.
morrowind was amazing because it was new and so far nothing else was that large, explorable and free roaming.
happens with every single game you are pining for. Now you have just become like some shitty 14 year old girl who complains that her text took 1.4 seconds too long to send. "what do you mean i can't get 4k resolution @ 60 frame rate with zero lag? pshhh, game sucks bro".
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I loved fallout 3 but new vegas felt like the same game
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I'm just waiting for the new starwars battlefront
oooomg I'm gonna have to end up getting a ps4 JUST for the new Battlefront. I've been waiting for a 3rd one for years.
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Fallout 3 is pretty good. But it doesn't compare at all to the first Fallout.
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A friend let me have fallout 2. That's where my love began. Never played the first might have to torrent it.
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They're a little too different to compare imo. Same universe but almost completely different games.
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They're a little too different to compare imo. Same universe but almost completely different games. 
Entirely different the comparison is retarded.
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Yeah you are right I guess. I like them all but.. I dunno I just liked the first one better.
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The first one is a lot better than the 2nd.
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Just because the games are different doesn't mean you can't compare them..
They are entirely different games but that doesn't change the fact that the first two were better IMO.
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A huge world to explore 10 years after the others compared to older computer games. Please they are not even in the same league. if they didn't have the same name it isn't even a question.
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: Enjoywho]
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All 4 fallouts are amazing in there own way. I think it is a 4 way tie.
I hate it when stuck up fallout 1&2 fans bash on 3 and new vegas. like really, get the fuck over it. its different than it used to be (not talking to the people praising 1&2 in this thread, just fallout 1 fans in general)
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: Enjoywho]
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I'm not bashing on 3 and vegas at all. I liked them both.. I guess I just prefer the turn base being more pronounced.
I did like Fallout 1 more then 2 but... I liked both really, I was just happy to get back into that world again. Even though I prefer 1 or 2 that doesn't by any means translate me bashing 3 and vegas.
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A huge world to explore 10 years after the others compared to older computer games. Please they are not even in the same league. if they didn't have the same name it isn't even a question.
I still think you're pretty silly saying you can't compare games because they are so different. That makes absolutely no sense at all.
Not in the same league? That's your opinion and I disagree with it fully. I enjoyed all of the games but I prefer the original more because of the turn based game play being a lot more in depth.
Saying you can't compare them and that its retarded... wow. That sounds pretty foolish when you say they aren't in the same league.. I don't know how you could say that if you aren't comparing them...
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i sold my BF4 because it was a stupendously buggy, un balanced, shoddy piece of crap compared to the flawed gem that 3 was. plus they're already planning for the 5th. DICE has gone the CoD route.
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Not in the same league? That's your opinion and I disagree with it fully. I enjoyed all of the games but I prefer the original more because of the turn based game play being a lot more in depth.
plus the hilarious writing from the developers made it funny as fuck, and interesting to read all the stories and comments and stuff that was said in the HUD. just about everything you could click on had a neat subtext to it.
Fallout 3 had blatantly shoddy writing, in my opinion.
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i agree that they are going the cod route. But honestly I'll just stick with 3 and/or 4 because fuck that.
I simply don't understand why you think its so buggy? I've had fewer problems than I did with 3. Only problem I have is EA's servers never fucking connecting when I want them to
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it's buggy because of the server issues (give me a bunch of experience for sticking it out EA? nah fuck that. i'd rather just play the game and have fun, not get stuck waiting for your game to tell you're having server issues) plus the fact that you can't even set up your squad before a match, ala BF3.
it's like they removed some of the most common sense aspects of the game. plus, that indoor map, in the panopticon, there is not way to even spawn in your base without it being a hectic free for all of campers shooting you in the ass and killing you before you can even make a move.
alot of maps in Conquest mode work great, but then other modes work like shit. (ie the Flooded District)
the characters looks like they're some kinda future operations tactics force from Fallout Tactics for some reason. (ie, they don't look good at all. they certainly don't look like real soldiers, they look beefy future soldiers; but that's just a personal spite of mine)
they had to remove (seemingly) the hit detection from your bullets, when you hit the target; because it was seemingly making it too easy to calculate where the hit boxes were.
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I find this comment odd.
Should they not be planning for the 5th yet, and if not, how long should they wait?

Looks like EA/Dice has been busy for the full run also. TRhey just don't have a developer leapfrog release cycle.
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: 4runner]
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i'm not making any predictions here... i'm only saying that they're going the "CoD route" of making an annual release of a new BF game. the next one might very well be an improvement. i'm just saying, that now, they're platform will be to solely compete against CoD; and not to simple make a "good game".
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I am sure they will stick to a (at earliest) biannual release cycle with DLC in between.
I think i9t would be to hard to try and keep up with CoD and their two developers.
In all honestly though, I would love to see about a 3 year cycle. I think a much better game could be made out of that.
(gettin drunk and rambling )
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: 4runner]
#19179425 - 11/23/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like battlefield because they throw everyone off a year or two later when they release a premium disc and I get to play all the content for 40 bucks.
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: 4runner]
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anunnakian said: I am sure they will stick to a (at earliest) biannual release cycle with DLC in between.
I think i9t would be to hard to try and keep up with CoD and their two developers.
In all honestly though, I would love to see about a 3 year cycle. I think a much better game could be made out of that.
(gettin drunk and rambling )
you're probably right, it'll end up getting pushed back, past "EA's AIM" and for good reason too.
and yeah, i imagine that a 3 years cycle would make the bossest awesomest BF game yet. remember how long FF7 was in production for? we got one of the best FF games ever, because of that.
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FF7 was going to be a SNES game...
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: Konyap]
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It should have been I would have gotten to play it long before I did.
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: 4runner]
#19179485 - 11/23/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
anunnakian said:
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akira_akuma said: plus they're already planning for the 5th. DICE has gone the CoD route.
I find this comment odd.
Should they not be planning for the 5th yet, and if not, how long should they wait?

Looks like EA/Dice has been busy for the full run also. TRhey just don't have a developer leapfrog release cycle.
really glad you posted this. great point.
Everyone is making good points actually. (largely due to sneezingpenis not participating anymore )
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Re: how is Ghost? [Re: Konyap]
#19179487 - 11/23/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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this is true, and because of the huge production cycle, there was room for not only the innovation for using PS1, but also time to get all the storyboarding, art design and amount of content in the game to skyrocket into innovation.
have you seen the ideas they were working on in the pre-alpha build of the PS1 version of FF7?
it looked pretty boss.
(fuck it, i can't find the video, and youtube is fucking stupid)
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I might replay more ps1 classics if they release them on p.c.
those load times did not age well
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such a fan boy... yes great points everyone, on the speculation of work beginning on the next BF. really swell analysis.
kid is just happy that people are talking about BF.
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well, one kinda goes hand in hand with the other.
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kid is just happy that people are talking about BF.
guy is happy that people are actually talking about the games themselves
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