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InvisibleJoftheRocks
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Olympic National Forest hunting
    #19091858 - 11/05/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My friends and I have decided to do a day trip out on the peninsula this coming weekend. I've never been there before, having only lived in Washington for a year. I'm just curious what species I should be keeping my eyes opened for. My "wish list" consists of cyans, azures, and chantrelles. I know you can find the azures on the coast, but is it reasonable to believe I'll find those 3 species while out there? I'm not familiar at all with the area. If there's anything that I should be keeping my eyes peeled for that would be really exciting, let me know!!!

I may also (and probably will) consume some of my cyans while I'm out there. I've never eaten any before (to my knowledge), and I'm INCREDIBLY excited:ohsodevious::awedance::trippinbawelz:

EDIT: It looks like we'll be hitting the Hoh Rainforest, and also going to the coast.... :smile:


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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: JoftheRocks]
    #19091880 - 11/05/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you're going to be in the Olympic National Forest.  You should go way up high and hunt for Chants (maybe even Lobsters but might be too late).  I always look for Matsutake up there, but haven't seen any there.  If you are going to do some urban hunting, cyans and ringers are most likely going to be your bounty.  I have seen some beaos reported from around here too though.


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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: jet li]
    #19092049 - 11/05/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I doubt azzies will be that far north and you need to be right on the coast for them anyway.  Not likely to find cyans in the woods either.  Look under hemlock and douglas fir for chants.

If your goal is actives like azzies and cyans stay on the coast around the mouth of the columbia, that's where I'm going this weekend.  Last trip to the mouth of the columbia and I ended up with 2 oz dry of azzies.  On that same trip I stopped in the woods on the way there and got about twenty pounds of chants.

Take highway 26 from portland and stop in the tillamook state forest for eddibles, then continue on up 101 to the southern washington coast for actives.


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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #19092298 - 11/05/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The only active you could find would be pells
Check clear cuts 
See: http://www.shroomery.org/12509/Psilocybe-pelliculosa
Cyans and azures don't grow in the forest

Chanterelles and hedgehogs, maybe bolete mirabilis be found
Have found cauliflower and pigs ears too, though all of the pigs ears have had bugs
Probably late to find any good lobsters

Good hunting!


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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: HarryL]
    #19092465 - 11/05/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Matsis should be in the doug fir!


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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: fry day] * 1
    #19092656 - 11/05/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Where did Cyans grow before humans started landscaping?


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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: ShockValue]
    #19092763 - 11/05/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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ShockValue said:
Where did Cyans grow before humans started landscaping?



hahahaha I often have that thought....


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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: JoftheRocks]
    #19092827 - 11/05/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Where did Cyans grow before humans started landscaping?



hahahaha I often have that thought....




Europe, and PNW dune grasses possibly, but so far as anyone knows they have been introduced from Europe.  Also note that Weraroa species exist in high elevation, here, and may possibly have an evelutionary link to Psilocybe in the PNW.


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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: jet li]
    #19092877 - 11/05/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I always thought they came from coastal areas heavy in dune grass and worked their way over to Europe form here?

So much to learn (so much to speculate :confused:)


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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #19093137 - 11/05/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I haven't put much research into it, but I was under the impression Cyans were introduced to Europe from the PNW.  Do I have ti backwards?


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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: HarryL]
    #19093552 - 11/06/13 12:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Cyans and azures don't grow in the forest





Yes they do; they just don't seem to be terribly good at it.


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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: ShockValue]
    #19093553 - 11/06/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I haven't put much research into it, but I was under the impression Cyans were introduced to Europe from the PNW.  Do I have ti backwards?




Nobody knows, though you will find several people claiming to. There are several fine theories.


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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: canid]
    #19095113 - 11/06/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

In that case, we'd expect European specimens to show less genetic variation than American specimens. Has this been studied?


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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: thiotimoline]
    #19095227 - 11/06/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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In that case, we'd expect European specimens to show less genetic variation than American specimens.




Assuming identical evolutionary pressures and population size, certainly.

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Has this been studied?




I would be surprised if it had not, but I don't know of any published material on the subject. Let me know if you find any.


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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: canid]
    #19095507 - 11/06/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

HarryL said:
Cyans and azures don't grow in the forest

Canid said:
Yes they do; they just don't seem to be terribly good at it.

Ok, true enough... How about low probability of success hunting them there?
I have never seen cyans grow in the forest, like a national forest myself. I know in POTW it says he found some once on a logging road but... Assume they were human deposited though... So it's possible... Where ever people go... Track spores...


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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: HarryL]
    #19095537 - 11/06/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ok, true enough... How about low probability of success hunting them there?




precisely that, though the probability is probably a good deal lower than it need be, with so many people being told not to bother.


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I have never seen cyans grow in the forest, like a national forest myself.




I have, in a forest only a couple miles from that particular national forest, under sword fern and alder, in predominately doug fir. One could argue that it was second growth, but second growth forests are created by non-human forces as well.

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I know in POTW it says he found some once on a logging road but... Assume they were human deposited though... So it's possible... Where ever people go... Track spores...




There's certainly much to this, but remember that flowing water also transports spores and colonized substrate, and that air currents and animals also transport spores.

Animals probably transport mycellia as well. I've never seen squirrels caching Psilocybe, but they sure do move a lot of mushrooms around in general.


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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: canid]
    #19095559 - 11/06/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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canid said:
Quote:

HarryL said:
Ok, true enough... How about low probability of success hunting them there?




precisely that, though the probability is probably a good deal lower than it need be, with so many people being told not to bother.


Quote:

I have never seen cyans grow in the forest, like a national forest myself.




I have, in a forest only a couple miles from that particular national forest, under sword fern and alder, in predominately doug fir. One could argue that it was second growth, but second growth forests are created by non-human forces as well.

Quote:

I know in POTW it says he found some once on a logging road but... Assume they were human deposited though... So it's possible... Where ever people go... Track spores...




There's certainly much to this, but remember that flowing water also transports spores and colonized substrate, and that air currents and animals also transport spores.

Animals probably transport mycellia as well. I've never seen squirrels caching Psilocybe, but they sure do move a lot of mushrooms around in general.



It's shit like this that makes me stare at this website for hours on end each day. I love all the free info that is available.


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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: JoftheRocks]
    #19095764 - 11/06/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Honestly.... People on here have so much knowledge!
There is always something to learn...

I am but an egg

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Re: Olympic National Forest hunting [Re: HarryL]
    #19095775 - 11/06/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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