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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19091863 - 11/05/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well, you're a racist first of all, so it always has something to do with it.  "Juan Williams can go fuck himself," "he lied," so you have nothing to say about the points presented besides "Juan Williams is a cunt?"  I thought this was the Political Discussion forum, not the Political I'm-going-to-piss-and-moan forum.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19091947 - 11/05/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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[url=http://www.foxnews.com/OPINION/2013/11/05/insurance-cancelled-dont-blame-obama-or-aca-blame-america-insurance-companies/]http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/11/05/insurance-cancelled-dont-blame-obama-or-aca-blame-america-insurance-companies/[/url]






opin·ion
noun \ə-ˈpin-yən\

: a belief, judgment, or way of thinking about something : what someone thinks about a particular thing

news
noun plural but singular in construction, often attributive \ˈnüz, ˈnyüz\

: new information or a report about something that has happened recently

You do know the difference between news and editorial, right? :smirk:


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19091959 - 11/05/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You do know that editorials can contain facts, right?  What is the difference that there are policies being cancelled this year from the policies that got cancelled last year?  And the year before that?  And for the year before that?  And from the year that health insurance was created?


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19092006 - 11/05/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, you're a racist first of all, so it always has something to do with it.  "Juan Williams can go fuck himself," "he lied," so you have nothing to say about the points presented besides "Juan Williams is a cunt?"  I thought this was the Political Discussion forum, not the Political I'm-going-to-piss-and-moan forum.





You presented Juan Williams as an authority who deserves respect.  No he does not.  He is a liar like Obama.  He didn't present points.  He presented demonstrable and provable lies.

It is not racist to point out that a Negro is a liar.  It is racist to constantly whine that criticizing a Negro is racist.  I don't care that they are Negroes.  I care that they are lying kleptocrat cunts.  The color of their skin is of no concern to me.  I am closer to MLK's ideal than Obama is.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19092042 - 11/05/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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You do know that editorials can contain facts, right?  What is the difference that there are policies being cancelled this year from the policies that got cancelled last year?  And the year before that?  And for the year before that?  And from the year that health insurance was created?





The difference is that they are cancelled because they don't satisfy government requirements--and the insurance companies are offering new plans that do--at a commensurate price. 


But the real difference?  "If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan.  Period."  He Blew smoke up the peoples ass to get this fucking abominable turd shoved down the throats of he american people.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19092061 - 11/05/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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He presented demonstrable and provable lies.




Lets see the proof then.

I won't hold my breath.

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It is not racist to point out that a Negro is a liar.  It is racist to constantly whine that criticizing a Negro is racist.  I don't care that they are Negroes.  I care that they are lying kleptocrat cunts.  The color of their skin is of no concern to me.  I am closer to MLK's ideal than Obama is.




I've never heard the term "bullshit covered."  You try to be subtle with your racism but you aren't.  Anybody with more than half a brain knows what you're trying to say.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19092109 - 11/05/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The difference is that they are cancelled because they don't satisfy government requirements--and the insurance companies are offering new plans that do--at a commensurate price. 


But the real difference?  "If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan.  Period."  He Blew smoke up the peoples ass to get this fucking abominable turd shoved down the throats of he american people.




Oh man, a president is wrong about something.  Let's bring out the pitchforks :rolleyes:

Most of these policies being cancelled could easily be changed to comply with the law.  The companies choose to cancel them instead.

So, once again, your only complaint is the "government requirement?"  Instead of people getting dropped from plans for lifetime caps, unable to get insurance because of pre-existing conditions?

Show me one year where insurance premiums haven't gone up, and then you can bitch about costs.

Single-payer, two tier, or public option would have been the route to go, why didn't you republicans tell your Congressmen and Senators to support it?


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #19095047 - 11/06/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

He wasn't wrong.  He deliberately lied.  Why do you kiss his ass so much?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/31/obama-officials-in-2010-93-million-americans-will-be-unable-to-keep-their-health-plans-under-obamacare/

Obama administration knew that Obamacare would disrupt private plans

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If you read the Affordable Care Act when it was passed, you knew that it was dishonest for President Obama to claim that “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan,” as he did—and continues to do—on countless occasions. And we now know that the administration knew this all along. It turns out that in an obscure report buried in a June 2010 edition of the Federal Register, administration officials predicted massive disruption of the private insurance market.




The Sgt Shultz defense is long dead.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19095054 - 11/06/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: B_BOY] * 1
    #19095074 - 11/06/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I knew it was a lie.  You knew it was a lie.  Obama knew it was a lie.  How come the press didn't know it was a lie?


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19095244 - 11/06/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: B_BOY]
    #19095261 - 11/06/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The press did know it wouldn't be possible.  And they said that.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19095274 - 11/06/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Like another poster said before. Your posts indeed reflect your username.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19095301 - 11/06/13 01:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The press did know it wouldn't be possible.  And they said that.





Where?  When?  I saw nothing in the NY Times about it until a few weeks ago and I read the whole newspaper.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19095307 - 11/06/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think he meant they said it AFTER the fact :lol:


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19095401 - 11/06/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The press did know it wouldn't be possible.  And they said that.





Where?  When?  I saw nothing in the NY Times about it until a few weeks ago and I read the whole newspaper.




Well, there was a great writeup in the Guardian just today about this.

factcheck.org - 2009.

ABC News - 2009

WaPo - 2010

CBO - 2010

The Hill - 2010.

NY Post - 2010



But now everybody is "surprised."


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19095414 - 11/06/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Including Obama huh?  Look he lied over 30 times about the law, plain and simple bait and switch tactic. There is no spinning this argument. He lied over and over and over and the polls show this now.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: B_BOY]
    #19095434 - 11/06/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You sound really butthurt that I just provided six examples all over three years old about something you claimed never happened.  There was coverage.  People ignored it.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: B_BOY]
    #19096151 - 11/06/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Looks like Obama is in trouble over his lies

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx





So do you think it will hurt his chances to be re-elected?


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19096285 - 11/06/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
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zappaisgod said:
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Mush4Brains said:
The press did know it wouldn't be possible.  And they said that.





Where?  When?  I saw nothing in the NY Times about it until a few weeks ago and I read the whole newspaper.




Well, there was a great writeup in the Guardian just today about this.

Anna Marie Cox?  She's the press?  In Limeyland?

factcheck.org - 2009.

Fact check isn't the press either.  Does anybody read them?

ABC News - 2009

Questionable

WaPo - 2010

New health-care rules could add costs,

CBO - 2010

The CBO is not the press

The Hill - 2010.

Well there is that one.  Does anybody read The Hill?

NY Post - 2010

Yay the Post.  You do realize what theya re, right? 



But now everybody is "surprised."




I'm not surprised.  I knew it.  Why didn't Obama?


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