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eMpire420
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Would this work as a bulk grow?
#19091029 - 11/05/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've cultivated shrooms in the past, but they were always using the BRF cake method. I'd like to grow a higher volume though, so I was wondering if I could do an easy bulk grow by creating the BRF cakes, inoculating, then breaking the cakes apart into a mono-tub. Would this work?
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: eMpire420]
#19091049 - 11/05/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: Stromrider]
#19091061 - 11/05/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Awesome. What's the difference between doing something like this and using other methods of bulk grows? I see probably a thousand different methods with all different types of grains. Is there's a benefit to some of the more complex ones?
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: eMpire420]
#19091095 - 11/05/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Brf only works in half pints. Grains can do well in any size jar. I'd personally go grab yourself a bag of wbs and look up a good tek. I never did brf cakes, and went went strait to wbs and even as a total novice I did fine.
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: eMpire420]
#19091100 - 11/05/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This will work. And it has been done many times.
Search for "Crumble and Case"
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19091111 - 11/05/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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A huge difference for most people is you need a PC for Any kind of grains but not for BRF
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wildernessjunkie said: This will work. And it has been done many times.
Search for "Crumble and Case"
Casing cakes does not increase yield....spawning to bulk does.
To increase yield you must increase moisture content and nutrients.
Casing does neither......Spawning to bulk does both....
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: PussyFart]
#19091129 - 11/05/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The reason I asked about BRF is because I have all the supplies to do it already, and I've always had decent results in the past with it. I'll look up wbs teks, any links to good teks?Quote:
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wildernessjunkie said: This will work. And it has been done many times.
Search for "Crumble and Case"
Casing cakes does not increase yield....spawning to bulk does.
To increase yield you must increase moisture content and nutrients.
Casing does neither......Spawning to bulk does both....
Could you elaborate? Does this mean don't wait till birthing to crumble and putting in a tub?
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: eMpire420]
#19091151 - 11/05/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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eMpire420 said: The reason I asked about BRF is because I have all the supplies to do it already, and I've always had decent results in the past with it. I'll look up wbs teks, any links to good teks?Quote:
Notahacker420 said:
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wildernessjunkie said: This will work. And it has been done many times.
Search for "Crumble and Case"
Casing cakes does not increase yield....spawning to bulk does.
To increase yield you must increase moisture content and nutrients.
Casing does neither......Spawning to bulk does both....
Could you elaborate? Does this mean don't wait till birthing to crumble and putting in a tub?
It means crumble and mix with a pasteurized bulk substrate material.
Do not just crumble the cakes and apply a casing layer....you might as well have just fruited them as cakes if you do that.
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: PussyFart]
#19091171 - 11/05/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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eMpire420 said: The reason I asked about BRF is because I have all the supplies to do it already, and I've always had decent results in the past with it. I'll look up wbs teks, any links to good teks?Quote:
Notahacker420 said:
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wildernessjunkie said: This will work. And it has been done many times.
Search for "Crumble and Case"
Casing cakes does not increase yield....spawning to bulk does.
To increase yield you must increase moisture content and nutrients.
Casing does neither......Spawning to bulk does both....
Could you elaborate? Does this mean don't wait till birthing to crumble and putting in a tub?
It means crumble and mix with a pasteurized bulk substrate material.
Do not just crumble the cakes and apply a casing layer....you might as well have just fruited them as cakes if you do that.
But you always inoculate the jars before mixing with the bulk substrate?
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: PussyFart]
#19091183 - 11/05/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I always used this one when is was learning except I wouldn't rinse after simmering cause you can't get the grains dry enough, and I would poor them over a window screen instead of a strainer.
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19091242 - 11/05/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bro.. to the OP.
Your avatar has a lot of meaning too me.
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: eMpire420]
#19091246 - 11/05/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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eMpire420 said: But you always inoculate the jars before mixing with the bulk substrate?
Yes....inoculate the cakes and let them fully colonize.
Then break up the fully colonized cakes and mix them with the pasteurized bulk substrate material.
Let that fully colonize and fruit it.
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: PussyFart]
#19091269 - 11/05/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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inoculate your cakes. When they are 100% colonized, dunk them. Instead of putting them in your SGFC,....
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Notahacker420 said: ...crumble and mix with a pasteurized bulk substrate material.
Do not just crumble the cakes and apply a casing layer....you might as well have just fruited them as cakes if you do that.
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
#19091278 - 11/05/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sgt. Pepper said: I always used this one when is was learning except I wouldn't rinse after simmering cause you can't get the grains dry enough, and I would poor them over a window screen instead of a strainer.
Wow! This is by far the most straight forward and easy to follow guide I've read. I always avoided bulk grows in the beginning because I found some of them to be too overwhelming, and some that just threw out terms without explaining the meaning of them. Thanks for the link!
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It's beautiful, isn't it? I find myself staring at the high resolution gif of it even when I'm completely sober.
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: eMpire420]
#19091368 - 11/05/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Almost shows how were all just.. similar.. Barely any difference.. Really brings out the open minded-ness of me.
Shit but who doesn't know that were all ONE anyways?
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
#19091412 - 11/05/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow! This is by far the most straight forward and easy to follow guide I've read. I always avoided bulk grows in the beginning because I found some of them to be too overwhelming, and some that just threw out terms without explaining the meaning of them. Thanks for the link!
Of course! I think a lot of newcomers are intimidated by grains because they are usually associated with more advanced techniques, but they really are easier than brf cakes. After you follow that tek a couple of times you'll get down your own method and you won't even need the tek anymore. It really is quite simple. I'm glad I could help!
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19091653 - 11/05/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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One more thing. If I do quart jars for a WBS tek, would 2cc of spores be enough?
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: eMpire420]
#19091790 - 11/05/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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When I used to use syringes, I used 1cc per quart jar of rye berries.
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Re: Would this work as a bulk grow? [Re: eMpire420]
#19091908 - 11/05/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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eMpire420 said: One more thing. If I do quart jars for a WBS tek, would 2cc of spores be enough?
That's plenty, I used 0.8 of a cc on my first grow. It works out to 12 jars from 10cc's which is what I was expecting, but the distributed gave an extra cc. Haha. So yeah, 2 is beyond enough. It only takes 2 spores!
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