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Dealing with police brutality
    #19091212 - 11/05/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hey guys, a few months back I had a little run in with the police. I was drinking and driving and they pulled me over. One of them was on a power trip because I ask for a badge number. So when the asshole is cuffing me he starts yelling "stop resisting", and while my hands are behind my back he slams me into the pavement giving me a concussion. When I woke up after being knocked out theres four cops on me yelling and punching me screaming that same line,"stop resisting". 
       
            Sure I was breaking the law but, I didnt expect that to happen. I felt very helpless. I've seen a therapist about it and he said there isnt anything wrong but, I have social anxiety now. When Im around groups of people I feel uncomfortable(something ive never felt before the incident). How should i go about trying to rid myself of this anxiety? Thanks in advance guys


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: look_at_the_sky]
    #19091311 - 11/05/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

those fucking scumbag assholes are the reason why i get anxiety now when i smoke weed. sorry to hear man, that's just fucking disgusting thing they did, but it happens almost occasionally and many people aren't aware of it and think cops are there to help you. they're there to enforce laws and thats it.

did you ever file a complaint of any sort?..


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: zZZz]
    #19091342 - 11/05/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My lawyer said that same officer has had many complaints about being aggressive on traffic stops. I didnt file one though.


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Re: Dealing with police brutality (moved) [Re: look_at_the_sky]
    #19091367 - 11/05/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This thread was moved from Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology.

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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: look_at_the_sky]
    #19091416 - 11/05/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

so what happens when you get this anxiety?, do you feel fear?, vulnerable maybe?, what happens?..


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: zZZz]
    #19091464 - 11/05/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I feel kind of scared around new groups of people. Like if I do or say something they wont like theyll do the same things as the cops. So I just stay quiet and dont act like myself to play it safe. I know that people dont just randomly jump people, but I use to think that about cops too.


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: look_at_the_sky]
    #19091615 - 11/05/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

next time it happens let it happen. you can exercise to feel stronger and you will feel less vulnerable. or say your mind is trying to convince you that this group of people is going to jump you, you can counter it by mentally preparing yourself for it. you can make this into a fun activity, for example  you can tell yourself you are a ninja with some serious fighting skills and eye everything and choreograph possible outcomes and prepare for the worst. i am serious about this, it is all mind work. i have had such anxiety usually when i am with strangers and i find them intimidating or start thinking they may want to beat me of something, i prepare in my mind of what i will do if such things happen, and even though it might not happen, or these people are obviously stronger than me, it makes me feel more confident about myself and instead i turn my vulnerabilities into a defense weapon..


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: look_at_the_sky]
    #19091673 - 11/05/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



This is a picture of my head after a police man 3 times my size (talking body builder status), beat the shit of out of me. Tazed me 3 times (twice while IN HANDCUFFS), and cracked my skull with a baton. You can still see the scar on the corner of my hair where it refuses to grow. I also have tazer scars on my abdomen from when they cliped the tazers out at the hospital.

Is obvious that brutality was used, when in reality.....he could have stopped 1/4 of the way through the beating.



You told a cop "I wanna see your badge" not only that but your story doesnt add up. And even IF you were a mild citizen, you got what you deserved. You wanted to play power games and they played it back, plain and simple. I provoked my cop by screaming at him, and getting back to my knees after he tazed me to keep yelling at him.

Me and you are the same, never once since my incident did I cry "Police brutality".....in fact after the whole ordeal I wrote a non chelant letter to the cop mildly joking about the incident with a "good game" sort of vibe.


Police are in charge, NOT YOU. It is YOUR fault you got your ass kicked just like It was my fault I got my ass kicked. I dont always "walk on the side walk" so to speak, and neither do the cops. Its pedestrians and police officers, white black, cold hot, and each has its place. I dont mean to sound rude my boy, but man up :morningtoke:

You challenged him, and so they challenged you back. You knew damn well you were talking to a police officer and got treated as a common prisoner in a maximum security prison.

You say "Hello SIR"
"No SIR"
"May I help you OFFICER"

even a mild passive aggression can be used if you are using correct terminology. Dont play lawyer, dont play overly confident stoner, you show respect, and do you best to be left alone. You got exactly what you asked for, and if the biggest problem you face from the incident is "Social anxiety" :rolleyes: (a condition which many suffer who DONT get the shit beaten out of them for mouthing off to the cops) consider yourself lucky.


Know your place
Know your strengths
Man up
and now you know :shrug:


O and as for the "Social anxiety" thing.....take deep breaths  :thisfuckinguy:


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: zZZz]
    #19091691 - 11/05/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ill have to try that, it sounds kind of fun lol. Its funny a couple of weeks after this happend I had a strong mush trip and ever since that trip ive been working out almost every day. Thanks for the advice homie


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: Almond Flour] * 1
    #19091692 - 11/05/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

wow they got you good.  :puppet:


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: look_at_the_sky]
    #19091695 - 11/05/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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look_at_the_sky said:
I feel kind of scared around new groups of people. Like if I do or say something they wont like theyll do the same things as the cops. So I just stay quiet and dont act like myself to play it safe. I know that people dont just randomly jump people, but I use to think that about cops too.




Who gives a fuck if they do the same as the cops, your a man, not a child or a women. Men take beatings from time to time, you got in a rumble my friend  :somefunnyshit:  I dont wanna meet the so called "Man" who hasnt gotten his ass kicked :snowman: :bunny:


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Edited by Almond Flour (11/05/13 06:42 PM)


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: Almond Flour]
    #19091764 - 11/05/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I didnt know asking questions was against the law? The cop showed up in a civilian car, in civilian clothes (after i was pulled over by on duty police) and i asked him who he was. Sure I might have come of like some dick just making this guys job harder, but i didnt know that was worthy of getting a beat down. Im definatly respectful when it comes to police but theres always that one fucking prick who give cops everywhere a bad reputation. Whats in the past is done, I just want to be comfortable being around new people again.


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: look_at_the_sky]
    #19091786 - 11/05/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I didnt know asking questions was against the law? The cop showed up in a civilian car, in civilian clothes (after i was pulled over by on duty police) and i asked him who he was. Sure I might have come of like some dick just making this guys job harder, but i didnt know that was worthy of getting a beat down. Im definatly respectful when it comes to police but theres always that one fucking prick who give cops everywhere a bad reputation. Whats in the past is done, I just want to be comfortable being around new people again.



Cut the crap son.....:strokebeard2:

You really think an officer ON duty is gonna let a civilian fuck with you. You knew God damn well what you were doing :bored:


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: Almond Flour]
    #19091823 - 11/05/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Just seeking advice on a personal problem, not trying to argue what happend.


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: look_at_the_sky]
    #19091860 - 11/05/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I was drinking and driving and they pulled me over. One of them was on a power trip because I ask for a badge number.




Its no wonder you got your ass beat. Find a drunk ass kid talking back to a cop like its gonna make a difference one way or the other what his badge number is.


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: look_at_the_sky]
    #19092004 - 11/05/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Just seeking advice on a personal problem, not trying to argue what happend.




I gave you advice, shrug it off, and realize that ultimatley it wasnt a big deal and you are responsible. Sure he SHOULDNT Of done it, but you fucked up on your end to. The sooner you learn to laugh at this minor mishap and realize that beatings happen.....the sooner you will drop the social anxiety stuff.

Now get back out there, and start socializing if you are anxious or not!


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: Almond Flour]
    #19092162 - 11/05/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I get what your saying and i did come of a little sob-storyish lol. But damn was that one spectacular beating for a question.I guess life goes on tho


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: look_at_the_sky]
    #19092305 - 11/05/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I get what your saying and i did come of a little sob-storyish lol. But damn was that one spectacular beating for a question.I guess life goes on tho



:hug: You give them too much credit, its the cops my friend :smirk: They are human just like us


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Edited by Almond Flour (11/05/13 08:18 PM)


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: Uzziel]
    #19092359 - 11/05/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I was drinking and driving and they pulled me over. One of them was on a power trip because I ask for a badge number.




Its no wonder you got your ass beat. Find a drunk ass kid talking back to a cop like its gonna make a difference one way or the other what his badge number is.




What are you talking about, it's under your right as a citizen to ask for badge and personnel ID number.


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: Crystal G]
    #19094258 - 11/06/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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look_at_the_sky said:
I was drinking and driving and they pulled me over. One of them was on a power trip because I ask for a badge number.




Its no wonder you got your ass beat. Find a drunk ass kid talking back to a cop like its gonna make a difference one way or the other what his badge number is.




What are you talking about, it's under your right as a citizen to ask for badge and personnel ID number.




Someone gets it. Cops legally can't beat your ass for asking a badge number. They can't even overstep legally for being a smartass on a power trip. See if they do that to someone with wealth and a lawyer...

Fucking American pigs.


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: Yogi1]
    #19094277 - 11/06/13 07:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yea OP definitely didn't deserve what happened to him.

I mean, let's be real.

He asked for a badge number and some of you guys see that getting your head slammed into concrete and giving you a concussion is an equal response.

:thumbdown:


Come on.

Sure, he possibly may have came off like a snobby young kid (I don't know your age), but hurting somebody like that over some authoritative pride. Not right.


Sorry OP, that's fucked. 

Not the first power tripping cop story and certainly not the last.


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: Almond Flour]
    #19094594 - 11/06/13 09:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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  I dont wanna meet the so called "Man" who hasnt gotten his ass kicked :snowman: :bunny:




what a crock.. I know someone who in my eyes will always be the definition of a Man and he hasnt got beatin to the ground before nor does he ever provoke anyone.

Apparently getting in fights and shit is what makes you a man now a days?


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: Herbologist]
    #19094736 - 11/06/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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  I dont wanna meet the so called "Man" who hasnt gotten his ass kicked :snowman: :bunny:




what a crock.. I know someone who in my eyes will always be the definition of a Man and he hasnt got beatin to the ground before nor does he ever provoke anyone.

Apparently getting in fights and shit is what makes you a man now a days?



:ruggedwink: I never said provoke anyone


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And I never said it was RIGHT, but what the fuck did he expect to happen, you be a smart ass and they will fuck with you one way or another. This was not some kid exercising his rights, it was him trying to push boundaries, and I am still not convinced that the OP handled this like Gandhi :stonedjerk: Im not saying he was FIGHTING BACK, but I dont think they beat the shit out of him while he was a limp noodle


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: Crystal G]
    #19096139 - 11/06/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I was drinking and driving and they pulled me over. One of them was on a power trip because I ask for a badge number.




Its no wonder you got your ass beat. Find a drunk ass kid talking back to a cop like its gonna make a difference one way or the other what his badge number is.




What are you talking about, it's under your right as a citizen to ask for badge and personnel ID number.




I'm just saying I doubt this guy was being respectful and he got his ass slammed to the ground because of that. I'm not saying what the cop did was right either.

I find it ironic though talking about rights to someone who is violating everyone's rights who drove on the road with him. Drunk driving aint a victimless crime.


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: Uzziel]
    #19097590 - 11/06/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Being a smartass to god isn't grounds for god to beat your ass, let alone c student police.


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: Yogi1]
    #19097686 - 11/06/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I mean i knew i was going to jail because i was underage. Why the fuck would i try to resist arrest? Instead of getting pulled over and going to jail, i got pulled over, beat, arrested, taken to the hospital and then went to jail.

        Maybe this anxiety stuff isnt so bad because it keeps me on my toes, but i definatly wont be making to many new friends anytime soon. Also ive completely quit drinking since the incident, so at least one good thing came from this.


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: look_at_the_sky]
    #19099098 - 11/07/13 06:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What the fuck "take it like a man"?!
Police are supposed to make the street safe, not knock anyone out that isnt a threat.
"got what you deserved" LOL, what a fucking joke.

I too have some social anxiety but only under the influence of drugs and because of the police.
Keep it up man, time will heal the wounds and the anxiety will subside in due time.


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: EmL]
    #19099118 - 11/07/13 06:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Anxiety from violence can last a couple years.  Where 'the law' is the source of violence there's little mental statute of limitations to ones dismay about The State. Maybe there's some legit way you can bring down 'The Man?' Meanwhile treat yourself tenderly and give yourself time to readjust, enjoy aloneness, silence, baths, and peace.


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Re: Dealing with police brutality [Re: eve69]
    #19099145 - 11/07/13 06:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You told a cop "I wanna see your badge" not only that but your story doesnt add up. And even IF you were a mild citizen, you got what you deserved. You wanted to play power games and they played it back, plain and simple. I provoked my cop by screaming at him, and getting back to my knees after he tazed me to keep yelling at him.

Me and you are the same, never once since my incident did I cry "Police brutality".....in fact after the whole ordeal I wrote a non chelant letter to the cop mildly joking about the incident with a "good game" sort of vibe.


Police are in charge, NOT YOU. It is YOUR fault you got your ass kicked just like It was my fault I got my ass kicked. I dont always "walk on the side walk" so to speak, and neither do the cops. Its pedestrians and police officers, white black, cold hot, and each has its place. I dont mean to sound rude my boy, but man up :morningtoke:

You challenged him, and so they challenged you back. You knew damn well you were talking to a police officer and got treated as a common prisoner in a maximum security prison.

You say "Hello SIR"
"No SIR"
"May I help you OFFICER"

even a mild passive aggression can be used if you are using correct terminology. Dont play lawyer, dont play overly confident stoner, you show respect, and do you best to be left alone. You got exactly what you asked for, and if the biggest problem you face from the incident is "Social anxiety" :rolleyes: (a condition which many suffer who DONT get the shit beaten out of them for mouthing off to the cops) consider yourself lucky.


Know your place
Know your strengths
Man up
and now you know :shrug:





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