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Anonymous #12

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #19090441 - 11/05/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18750355

OP owes 350k in unpaid student loans.


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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18922384

Rewards of working off the sweat of your brow.


I'd read both threads in full and then read em again.


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Anonymous #13

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #19090706 - 11/05/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Theres a guy professor doom that has a blog thats pretty informative u should google it


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Anonymous #14

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19090752 - 11/05/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

OP I feel ya.
Tell your parents you want college in a couple years. You better be able to support yourself because they will kick you outta the house possibly.
I regret going to the college I am right now. Its in a shithole of a city. DO NOT EVER major in something you can't get a job in or hate.
Just move to an intentional community and tell society to fuck off.


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Anonymous #15

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #19091072 - 11/05/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #12 said:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18750355

OP owes 350k in unpaid student loans.


~

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18922384

Rewards of working off the sweat of your brow.


I'd read both threads in full and then read em again.




Meh, degree or not, it takes work.  You'll get rewards working off the sweat of your brow either way.  Dividing it into "college vs. not college" is dumb.  I have hundreds of friends that went to college and we're all making bank.

I have friends digging ditches that are also doing OK.


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Anonymous #16

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19093937 - 11/06/13 03:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Go to college.  Learn something.  Educate yourself.  You don't have to rack up huge debts.  Maybe you'll find a path to a career that can afford you everything you want out of life rather than bumming rides and begging for burgers at McDonalds.  If you enjoy bumming rides and eating shit food while traveling across the country, imagine doing it in style in a brand new jeep with tons of disposable income.  Seems that you are drawn to a path where the odds of living hand to mouth is likely.  Yeah, lots of people shit on college on these forums, but its mandatory for most decent careers. 

Impulsive decisions that put short term pleasure ahead of long term benefits is short-sighted and sadly prevalent on these forums.  Too many people living for the moment and fucking up the rest of their lives.  Go to college before you knock some girl up or get arrested or get stupid or get deeper in bad decisions.

A Bachelors Degree today is what a high school diploma was a generation ago.  If you don't have one, you will be viewed as a retarded loser. 

And you'll marry a fat, ugly girl.


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Anonymous #17

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #19096667 - 11/06/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Anon 1, I'm with you if you want to postpone college for 1-2 years, provided you go to actually WORK productively, not beg, bum and travel on parents' dime.

I've had both jobs and classes that looked good on paper, but in fact were a tremendous waste of time, as I wasn't into it at the time. Moved from a bank job to a tech support job that paid a little less, and frankly I was never happier. Learned to live on my own, be responsible with bills, cook my own food etc. I could have stuck to the bank job, have a lot more money now, and probably be miserable as fuck not knowing at all how to spend it.

Go work for a year or two, this will then give you an intrinsic drive to study, and more importantly you'll know WHAT to study, what actually interests you, from within. If you don't feel like doing it now, lectures and classes would be wasted on you anyway, just as they were on me when I didn't care for them.


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Anonymous #18

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #19097015 - 11/06/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #15 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #12 said:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18750355

OP owes 350k in unpaid student loans.


~

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18922384

Rewards of working off the sweat of your brow.


I'd read both threads in full and then read em again.




Meh, degree or not, it takes work.  You'll get rewards working off the sweat of your brow either way.  Dividing it into "college vs. not college" is dumb.  I have hundreds of friends that went to college and we're all making bank.

I have friends digging ditches that are also doing OK.




Owing that much student loan debt can easily be avoided. For starters, don't go to a pricey, private institution. Go to the cheapest state college you can find. And find part-time work at the same time so you don't have to take out as many loans. If your parents allow you to live there, live at home and commute from home, so that way you don't have to take out any loans at all, you can just accept financial aid, or just enough loans to cover tuition. I graduated with only $20,000 student loan debt, because my tuition was only $2 or $3K a semester.


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Anonymous #19

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19101492 - 11/07/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Did you go to college, #9?

Sad world it is when people put money over happiness.




I was pushed into community college. I dropped out in less than a semester because i didnt know what i wanted and thus had no reason to try.

Think about how important money is to you when youre a stressed out bottom feeder making 10 bucks an hour.

Now think about having a 2 year degree in something like occupational therapy and making 25 bucks an hour not breaking your body and not with fear of being cut from a job.

Its not a clear decision but I'll tell you money will have far less importance in your life when youre not struggling to pay the bills and are working the same amount of hours.


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Anonymous #19

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #19101510 - 11/07/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #12 said:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18750355

OP owes 350k in unpaid student loans.


~

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18922384

Rewards of working off the sweat of your brow.


I'd read both threads in full and then read em again.




Go to community college, step 1
step 2, get an associates in physical or occupational therapy
step 3, pay off your 60,000 in loans in the next few years while making a cool 40-50,000 a year after taxes.

Jesus people are stupid. Schools not for all, but for 2 years of your time you can have a qualification that allows you to climb a ladder pretty much straight to the top.

25 bucks an hour as a young man can pay a house off easy... You can own your own shit, maybe grow on your own property, and take bitches to get a hard lay in a place you OWN.


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Anonymous #20

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #19] * 1
    #19207771 - 11/30/13 08:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You should go to college. You shouldn't go to college until you're ready. Don't waste you and your parents' money.


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Anonymous #21

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #20]
    #19219843 - 12/02/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #20 said:
You should go to college. You shouldn't go to college until you're ready. Don't waste you and your parents' money.




QFT


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Anonymous #22

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #21]
    #19273020 - 12/13/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you don't know what you want to do, just go to a junior college and just do general ed classes. That way when you DO know what you want to do, you'll have all the bullshit classes out of the way.

Your parents are right, you should go to college. By the way, you will meet cool people in college. Most people will be your age once you get to that point.

You will get way better jobs with a college education. If you don't go to college, do you REALLY want to be a lame ass manager of some lame ass retail store or lame ass restaurant? Customer service is NOT where you want to be 10 years from now and if you don't go to school, that is the only job you'll be able to have.


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Anonymous #23

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #21]
    #19274700 - 12/14/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #21 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #20 said:
You should go to college. You shouldn't go to college until you're ready. Don't waste you and your parents' money.




QFT




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Anonymous #24

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #23]
    #19277586 - 12/15/13 03:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So much ignorance in this thread.


I was exactly in your shoes 2 years ago, OP.

My parents also encouraged me to go to school right after high school and they knew how much I loathed high school
I even hitchhiked a little when I was 18 and was interested in alternative forms of living and travel.


If you agree that attachment is the route of all suffering and want to lead a life meditating, doing yoga, and bumming around in asia or hawaii for a few years or making your way travelling around, then I think that's commendable.  If you want to be a scummy alcoholic trainhopper kid, then that's kinda shitty IMO but you can do whatever you want.  One of my friends is homeless and leads a very spiritual life and I respect him for following his ideals.


I'm almost 20 now and I plan on going to a community college in an entirely new city where I don't know anyone.  I've spent the last two years dicking around and I'm sick of this.  I graduated at 18, traveled a little bit.  Hitchhiked to a couple of places(never really lived on the street), got arrested, travelled to other countries, met some wonderful people in a college town near where I live, tried new drugs, pushed myself out of my comfort zone, meditated a lot, cooked lots of foods, and had lots of experiences.  I'm not saying you wouldn't have great experiences in college but from what I've seen in my college-goin' friends, they just drink.  and go to parties.  But of course, it's all about what you make out of it.

Why do I want to go to a community college now? 
-I'm afraid of being here forever.  Several of my friends are doing the same shit they've done in high school.  In fact, most are in one way or another.  A good friend of mine was homeschooled when he was 15(he didn't do much in homeschool.)  He's 20 now and he still acts like a child.  Every time I walk into his house, he's a tv show or movie on netflix.  He's always talking about how he plans on making music soon or releasing an album and booking shows.  He's said the same stuff since he was 15 and he's played 2 shows.  One was at an open-stage night that nobody was at besides the people he invited.  and the other was at our high school gym with other high school bands.  Just don't him and don't let yourself get stagnant.  I guess that's what I'm saying.

-Mindfulness and Experiences.  I meditate a lot and I'm interested in where I place my attention.  I don't want to place my attention on junk food thoughts or petty bullshit.  Where we place our attention(negative vs. positive thoughts, friends, any situation) affects who we will become.  I want to be surrounded by intelligent people who study and talk about intelligent things.  People whose lives don't revolve around getting home after work so they can drink or get high.

-Becoming interested in something.  The most fulfilling moments in a person's life are when they're totally alive in the present moment IMO.  Whether that's running, playing music, reading, or meditation.  Here's a book describing what I'm talking about.  The guy also did a TED talk.  I want to go to school, explore my interests and pursue a subject that at the very least, doesn't hurt the environment or other people, improves my life and lets me experience flow doing it, and gives me a reasonable standard of living.  Enough to travel and buy healthy food.  Passions don't fall out of the sky though and I'm going to have to put forth an effort to find out what I enjoy and how I can contribute.
    -- I'm a bit averse to trades for some reason even though I shouldn't be.  You can help people, make reasonable money, and practice mindfulness while you work.  I'm going to look into that later. 

-Moving to a city.  I've heard that people who live in cities are generally higher.  I'll also bump into more people, be able to visit bigger libraries, more museums, more different types of food, and way more places to learn things in general.  The public transportation's gonna be awesome too.









So basically, if you decided not to read this, my condensed advice for you is to take a year or two off but don't stop pushing yourself out of your comfort zone or to learn new things and to not let yourself become stagnant.  Travel if you can.  and then if you want, you can learn a trade, go to college/university, work a minimum wage job, or become homeless.

Or you could decide not listen to any of this.  and just dick around and watch tv all day.  and then once your passion for life has been sucked out of you and you're disgusted with yourself(sorta like me, to a degree) then you can go college or whatever.  You may be into this website.  It's interesting but I don't exactly agree with everything they stand for.


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Anonymous #25

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #24]
    #19278354 - 12/15/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My friend went to community college for 2 years and got an engineering degree. He got a good job making 40-50k/year almost immediately, and I'm pretty sure his total college cost wasn't more than maybe 6k.

Of course, there are plenty of ways to make good money even with no college. Start an online webshop and sell shit. Mine crypto-currencies. Be creative, be smart, and most importantly work hard and you will have a good chance of succeeding.


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Anonymous #26

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #25]
    #19292523 - 12/18/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I had to drop out of college.


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Anonymous #27

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19334119 - 12/27/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hello #1...I have taught at the university level for almost 40 years.

A little advice...only go to tech school or college to go into something THAT LEADS TO A JOB.  IF IT DOESN'T LEAD TO A JOB, DON'T GO THERE.

There are many technical fields that take 2 years, OR LESS, that lead to decent jobs.  HVAC, welding, machining, automotive, construction management. 

There are many 4 year degrees that lead to decent jobs right after graduation:  engineering, education, agriculture, social work, nursing, accounting.

Don't go to college (community college or otherwise) and take a bunch of boring-ass generals with no idea where you are going with it, hoping you'll figure it out after you're in college.  I see students all the time who are just racking up debt, taking generals, and hating every minute of it.

The last thing you should do, is major in something without a very clear career path, where a 2 or 4 year career does not lead to a job.  The vast majority of college students make that mistake.  Better to take a 3-month course in welding and get a job than to graduate a 4 year degree in Sociology (or whatever) that qualifies you to do absolutely nothing.


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Anonymous #28

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #27]
    #19334124 - 12/27/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If you do not want to do something and cannot see it bringing a  positive result, then dont.


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Anonymous #29

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #19334251 - 12/27/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

DO NOT go to college if you do not want to go.

I attended college under guilty feelings of satisfying my parents' wishes.  They weren't even all that happy after I had graduated due to the debt the family incurred, PLUS I feel like I wasted six years of my life.

In addition, the job I have doesn't fucking care that I have a degree and is paying the same amount as the jobs that do care if I have a degree.


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Anonymous #30

Re: Should I go to college if I don't want to go? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19334548 - 12/27/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just go. You can fuck around a good bit in college. See what all the hype is about. You can have as much time as you plan and schedule. Responsibility will come eventually. You can fuck around in the subset(college). Pick some classes that don't require much attendance and just own the tests if class isn't your thing.

College is a club. It opens opportunities and connections that you MAY want to pursue in the future.

Yes of course you don't want to bow down and get stuck in some field. Go for projects, so you can still be exploring. Go UNDECLARED.


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