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My first gourmet mushroom grow. Lions Mane and Shiitake. Grow Log.
    #19089938 - 11/05/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hey everyone. This is my first gourmet mushroom grow and my first grow on a bulk substrate. I messed around with some PF tek over the last few months and got hooked on growing mushrooms so I decided to give some Lions Mane and Shiitake a go.

Materials:
hardwood pellets
rye grain
verm
brown rice flour
gypsum
Lions mane LC
Shiitake LC

    On Oct 29 I prepared my rye grain by soaking overnight and then simmering for about 1 hour on the stove. I then loaded the seed into 12 1/2 pint jars and 2 half gallon jars, I placed a layer of vermiculite over the top of the seed in the 1/2 pints and Pressured cooked at 15 psi for 1 hr.
    After allowing the jars to cool overnight I inoculated them via LC syringe under a still air box and placed them in a drawer I use as an incubation chamber.
  I should note that the strain of Shiitake I acquired grows at temperatures of 55-85 degrees.

It has been 1 week and my lionsmane 1/2 pint spawn jars are looking like they are getting ready to fruit at any moment so I am preparing to transfer them to bulk substrate. I realize at this point that using 1/2 pint jars may not have been the best idea because I cannot really shake them up in order to prolong the period before spawning to bulk. The 1/2 gallon jar I inoculated has been shaken twice already, I plan to use it either as another spawn to sawdust or for grain to grain transfer. The shiitake jars are all coming along well, some better than others but as I have never seen shiitake mycelium before I am not certain as to how far along they are. There is 1 jar that I accidentally squirted about 4 cc of LC into that is almost fully colonized.

Lionsmane on the left Shiitake on the right

I am using hardwood pellets I purchased from Out-Grow who is a sponsor here as my substrate. I used Frank Horrigans sawdust tek but I had to add a little more water to the mix than he uses. I mixed 5 cups of hardwood pellets with 7 cups of water in each bag. I added 1/2 cups of brown rice flour to each bag and a little less than a handful of gypsum. I will pressure cook for 2 hours at 15 psi. I dont have any tyvek handy so I'm going to improvise and use towels to keep the bags from sealing up on me. Hoping I dont mess this up with the towels. I was thinking wax paper would work but I am all out of that from when me and my girl made candy apples for Holloween...

The towels worked nicely and I mixed all of the Lionsmane small jars with the 2 5lb-ish bags after letting it all cool down  for a few hours.
As of today 11/10 the mycelium from the spawn has begun to spread onto the sawdust substrate nothing too impressive so I will take some pics when it really starts running.

My jars of Shiitake spawn are nearly fully colonized and I will prepare to spawn to bulk during the week. I do have 1 jar that is looking like it may have bacterial problems I will post a pic



Edited by Hammburgler (11/10/13 01:45 PM)


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Re: My first gourmet mushroom grow. Lions Mane and Shiitake. Grow Log. [Re: Hammburgler]
    #19128302 - 11/12/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

11/11 Mixed approx 10 lbs sawdust substrate/gypsum in 1 large bag.Sterilized sawdust substrate for 2 hrs at 15 psi. I left it in the PC over night to cool down
11/12 I mixed 3 pints of shiitake spawn with approximately 10 lbs of hardwood sawdust and 2 handfuls of gypsum


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Re: My first gourmet mushroom grow. Lions Mane and Shiitake. Grow Log. [Re: Hammburgler]
    #19129904 - 11/13/13 03:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

nice work man, good to see someone make it happen with a sAb and 1/2 pints.. good luck on your grow keep us posted.


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Re: My first gourmet mushroom grow. Lions Mane and Shiitake. Grow Log. [Re: Mushmitch]
    #19143329 - 11/15/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wish you the best of luck on your grow, but I fear 5 cups pellets to 7 cups water may be severely over-wet.  Wood pellets can vary, but I went down from 6 cups pellets : 6.5 cups water because it was too wet.  Shiitake for me has proven more tolerant but my lion's mane failed miserably at 6:6.5 pellet:water ratio.
Of course you're adding supplements and sterilizing, so hopefully that absorbs/gets rid of some of the extra moisture.  How is colonization coming along?


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Re: My first gourmet mushroom grow. Lions Mane and Shiitake. Grow Log. [Re: Forrester]
    #19151218 - 11/17/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I fear you are right about my lionsmane bags. Both bags appear to be a bit too wet, 2 days ago there was really nothing significant happening with either one. I agitated 1 of them in hopes of redistributing the moisture so I'll see what happens with it but as of today the second bag, the one I left alone, has seen a ton of growth. I'm hoping it does not stall out but if it does I'll just give it another go. I have 2 plates of agar growing and still have a pint of spawn left.

I seem to have gotten the moisture content correct for my shiitake grow however. It is really going strong as of today.

If things dont work out as planned I'll just keep plugging away until I get a successful grow!


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Re: My first gourmet mushroom grow. Lions Mane and Shiitake. Grow Log. [Re: Hammburgler]
    #19151278 - 11/17/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Hammburgler said:
If things dont work out as planned I'll just keep plugging away until I get a successful grow!




Hell yeah, that's the way to do it.  You'll get it for sure.

Lion's mane took me a couple tries, once you figure out what it likes it's no problem at all. 

Shiitake like I mentioned is more tolerant, so it sounds like you'll be just fine there this try.  I've heard they'll colonize and brown faster on the lower end of moisture content so maybe try them drier next time as well and see how it compares.


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Re: My first gourmet mushroom grow. Lions Mane and Shiitake. Grow Log. [Re: Forrester]
    #19151292 - 11/17/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Lions mane, lions tail, lions ear...

In my country we have a plant called "lion-tooth" which tastes so bad it would be a nice vomiting agent and works as a lacsative...

Good luck with the mushrooms btw :wink: I prefer Chantrelles...<3


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Re: My first gourmet mushroom grow. Lions Mane and Shiitake. Grow Log. [Re: Icyus]
    #19255584 - 12/10/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Update: The Shiitake took a long time to fully colonize but it is almost ready for fruiting. The Lions Mane contaminated after I added some dry sawdust to it so I got rid of it.
Today 12/10 I am getting ready to spawn 2 pints of fully colonized rye grain(Lions Mane)to 8 cups of hardwood pellets and 7 cups of water. Wish me luck.


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Re: My first gourmet mushroom grow. Lions Mane and Shiitake. Grow Log. [Re: Hammburgler]
    #19258006 - 12/10/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Now you know to let the shiitake get all nice and browned before fruiting it, right?  Don't just throw it into fruiting when it's fully colonized. 

Hopefully you have better luck on the lion's mane this time!


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Re: My first gourmet mushroom grow. Lions Mane and Shiitake. Grow Log. [Re: Forrester]
    #19396518 - 01/09/14 11:27 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

so yeah I jumped the gun on fruiting the shiitake because I was trying to be like Paul Stamets and get a flush while it was white lol. Anyway, I put it in the FC and it got all white and fuzzy within a few days and then it started browning. It continued to brown over and began to pin yesterday. I'm expecting fruit within a few days. I'll get a pic up tomorrow.
Keeping my fingers crossed.


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Re: My first gourmet mushroom grow. Lions Mane and Shiitake. Grow Log. [Re: Hammburgler]
    #19396529 - 01/09/14 11:29 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

:dancer:


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Re: My first gourmet mushroom grow. Lions Mane and Shiitake. Grow Log. [Re: Forrester]
    #19399078 - 01/10/14 01:24 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

here are those pics:



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