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Black poplar prices
    #19089798 - 11/05/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm trying to work on a price for my black poplar mushrooms and wonder how they typically compare to other mushrooms.  Any specific prices are appreciated but more looking to know should i price these higher than shiitake and oysters or about the same?


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Re: Black poplar prices [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #19090011 - 11/05/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well factor in your materials and labor.  then add how much profit you want.  then see how that jives with your yields, and come up with a price per pound.


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Re: Black poplar prices [Re: drake89]
    #19092112 - 11/05/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thats sort of the problem.  I dont know what work in this industry is worth or what profit is reasonable to ask.  Times like this I wish I had a business degree! lol I just learn what I need as I go.


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Re: Black poplar prices [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #19092673 - 11/05/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'd price it higher than shiitake and definitely higher than oysters. I've seen them sold for 16 per pound here in California, they were small capped clustered forms.

If you price it too high you will figure it out soon by having them not sell.


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Re: Black poplar prices [Re: pseudotsuga]
    #19094074 - 11/06/13 05:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They're inferior to shiitake by a long shot.  They're also fragile and hard to transport, similar to oysters in that regard.  Another problem is if they're in the grocery store, they break when people handle them, and then they put the broken one down and buy one that isn't broken.  After a few hours in the bins, you have all broken mushrooms and nobody else buys them.

Price them high to make up for the above, but the problem is that then people won't buy them.  They're also not that great to eat so you don't get much repeat business.
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Re: Black poplar prices [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19094201 - 11/06/13 06:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Using a plastic clamshell can reduce breakage due to handling considerably.






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Re: Black poplar prices [Re: OICU812]
    #19094359 - 11/06/13 08:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks everyone again.  I was under the impression of what RR had to say but have always read they had great flavor.  I was gonna try them lastnight but ended up making something else with some oysters.  Today will be the day though.  I am no where near looking to get into grocery stores so the clamshells in 1/4 lbs would be a very good choice for me!  I'm just trying to have the most variety around as the only otehr grower already does plenty of shiitake and oysters.  I figure a table with more than that will at least draw more people over and even if they don't leave with anything but shiitake and oysters they will see that I am a man of my mushrooms while the other guy does it for just another addition to his urban farm and realized there is a demand for it.  The difference in him and I is you can't get me to stop talking mushrooms when I start and while I don't konw everything I love sharing what I do know.  I figure the longer I could keep someoens attention at my stall the harder it will be for them to leave empty handed.  Even if they buy something just to get away lmao


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Re: Black poplar prices [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #19099058 - 11/07/13 05:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think they are delicious.  I get 12/lb.  Its not that they are better than shiitake its that you can get shiitake at the grocery store but a. Agreta is exotic.  Chefs like variate.


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Re: Black poplar prices [Re: t3chnobily]
    #19099099 - 11/07/13 06:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I think they are delicious.  I get 12/lb.  Its not that they are better than shiitake its that you can get shiitake at the grocery store but a. Agreta is exotic.  Chefs like variate.



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for me oysters are a pretty easy sell anywhere that's not a chain, at $10/lb.

$12/lb seems to work for other 'exotics'.  chefs appreciate quality.


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Re: Black poplar prices [Re: t3chnobily]
    #19099108 - 11/07/13 06:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yup.  your market isnt going to be grocery stores;  but chefs will eat them up if you can produce a steady supply.  We sell them 14 a pound to chefs and we can never keep up with demand.  keep in mind that i live in a high tourist area with lots and lots of gourmet restaurents.  RR is right about shelf life though.  they go down quick.  harvest them just as the hymenium breaks, and you will have about 5 days to sell them.  Similiar to tropical oysters like pinks and yellows.  they can also be finicky yielders but are super resistant to contamination when fully colonized;  they can sit for months and not show any green.  I like them pretty well, but nameko and beech are far superior flavor wise imo.  everyone has different taste buds though.


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Re: Black poplar prices [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19100936 - 11/07/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sell them for $12-16/lb 

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They're inferior to shiitake by a long shot.

They're also not that great to eat so you don't get much repeat business.
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I have never heard of anybody who didnt like pioppino's.  Most people think they are very tasty and exotic???  Most of my costumers like them just as much as shiitake, if not more.  Also, i dont think shiitake are that great (not to mention they are extremely common and can be found anywhere); i think good cold weather oysters grown on sup. sawdust are superior to shiitake.  King Oysters are extremely superior to shiitake IMO.


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Re: Black poplar prices [Re: Aleon]
    #19103137 - 11/07/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for all the responses guys!  A family emergency took me away for a few days but I came back to a nice harvest.  Unfortunately not all were picked right as veil broke as i had done my previous ones so I will keep those for personal taste testing and testing of shelf life.  LIke Aleon I've heard nothing but good things of this mushroom!  It is super fast to grow and I will definitely keep this on the menu!  Now that I have an idea I will let you guys know what I am able to settle on in the near future for any future referencers :smile:


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Re: Black poplar prices [Re: Amanita virosa]
    #19105311 - 11/08/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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yup.  your market isnt going to be grocery stores;  but chefs will eat them up if you can produce a steady supply.  We sell them 14 a pound to chefs and we can never keep up with demand.  keep in mind that i live in a high tourist area with lots and lots of gourmet restaurents.  RR is right about shelf life though.  they go down quick.  harvest them just as the hymenium breaks, and you will have about 5 days to sell them.  Similiar to tropical oysters like pinks and yellows.  they can also be finicky yielders but are super resistant to contamination when fully colonized;  they can sit for months and not show any green.  I like them pretty well, but nameko and beech are far superior flavor wise imo.  everyone has different taste buds though.




Niiiice flush! I have some piopinno on Agar right now, about to make some grain transfers...what do you mean by finicky yields? About what are you getting per block average?

Also, is that cased?


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Re: Black poplar prices [Re: mrtumnas]
    #19105478 - 11/08/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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yup.  your market isnt going to be grocery stores;  but chefs will eat them up if you can produce a steady supply.  We sell them 14 a pound to chefs and we can never keep up with demand.  keep in mind that i live in a high tourist area with lots and lots of gourmet restaurents.  RR is right about shelf life though.  they go down quick.  harvest them just as the hymenium breaks, and you will have about 5 days to sell them.  Similiar to tropical oysters like pinks and yellows.  they can also be finicky yielders but are super resistant to contamination when fully colonized;  they can sit for months and not show any green.  I like them pretty well, but nameko and beech are far superior flavor wise imo.  everyone has different taste buds though.




Niiiice flush! I have some piopinno on Agar right now, about to make some grain transfers...what do you mean by finicky yields? About what are you getting per block average?

Also, is that cased?



We always case them. We can squeak a pound out of them over a few flushes. That one flush I am holding weight 14.4oz. But that is above average.


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Re: Black poplar prices [Re: Amanita virosa]
    #19107308 - 11/08/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The flush you are holding, is that at about what stage you always try to harvest them?  I have harvested all mine literally right as the veil rips away so barely any gill is exposed but I'm sure I would get more weight if I waited just a bit longer!


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Re: Black poplar prices [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
    #19111691 - 11/09/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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The flush you are holding, is that at about what stage you always try to harvest them?  I have harvested all mine literally right as the veil rips away so barely any gill is exposed but I'm sure I would get more weight if I waited just a bit longer!



Yea that a pretty good stage. You will get more weight


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Re: Black poplar prices [Re: Amanita virosa]
    #19113874 - 11/10/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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yup.  your market isnt going to be grocery stores;  but chefs will eat them up if you can produce a steady supply.  We sell them 14 a pound to chefs and we can never keep up with demand.  keep in mind that i live in a high tourist area with lots and lots of gourmet restaurents.  RR is right about shelf life though.  they go down quick.  harvest them just as the hymenium breaks, and you will have about 5 days to sell them.  Similiar to tropic
Niiiice flush! I have some piopinno on Agar right now, about to make some grain transfers...what do you mean by finicky yields? About what are you getting per block average?

Also, is that cased?



We always case them. We can squeak a pound out of them over a few flushes. That one flush I am holding weight 14.4oz. But that is above average.






I'm just trying to case some now; what type of casing did you use?  And did you apply it and then put it back into incubation for a week or so; or did you case and go straight to FC? Thanks amanita


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