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neddypatches
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Amanita rainfall
#19089695 - 11/05/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If anyone could tell me a species on these Amanitas, that would be wonderful. Among the Amanitas found were literally hundreds of muscaria, pantherina, phalloids, etc. I'd just like an ID on edible amanitas. There seems to be 2.


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I'm off a graveyard shift and fall-over tired...but I'd love to have ID on the 2 that I've posted. Spore - white; park area...mostly fir, pine...coniferous & mixed. I have no interest in ibotenic acid or muscimol. Just want edible Amanitas. 2 species. Interestingly enough, these last 2 were buttons at first that continued to grow further out of their sac-volva for more than 2 days after being picked. Thanks much.
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lsms
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I don't think any are Amanita muscaria, did any have concentric rings on the bottom? Those can be boiled in water and then cooked. #1 and 2 do not look like something I would eat.
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Edited by lsms (11/05/13 11:57 AM)
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Tangich


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Re: Amanita rainfall [Re: lsms]
#19089726 - 11/05/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Second is Amanita section Vaginataea. Probably edible, but I'm not very familiar with American Amanitas. First one I just can't remember the name, it doesn't grow here, but someone posted it recently. It's toxic if I remember correctly.
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lsms
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Re: Amanita rainfall [Re: Tangich]
#19089731 - 11/05/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Amanita jacksonii maybe for the last one?
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ShockValue
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Re: Amanita rainfall [Re: lsms]
#19089774 - 11/05/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would call the first one something in the A.gemmata group, but it's missing the ring and any identifying traits on the base, so wouldn't say for sure.
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neddypatches
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Re: Amanita rainfall [Re: lsms]
#19089955 - 11/05/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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lsms said: Amanita jacksonii maybe for the last one?
The last one is the same species of Amanita and the previous. They're babies.
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neddypatches
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Quote:
ShockValue said: I would call the first one something in the A.gemmata group, but it's missing the ring and any identifying traits on the base, so wouldn't say for sure.
I'm thinking the same, and have looked at very closely. It's a cool find for me.
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Re: Amanita rainfall [Re: lsms]
#19089974 - 11/05/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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lsms said: Amanita jacksonii maybe for the last one?
Looks too dark to be A.jacksonii, but I dunno.... could number one be a blusher of some kind? It might just be on my end, but I can see pinkish hues...
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neddypatches
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Re: Amanita rainfall [Re: Tangich]
#19090093 - 11/05/13 01:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for everyone's input. I do appreciate it.Quote:
Tangich said: Second is Amanita section Vaginataea. Probably edible
Thanks much.
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suchen
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1) May be something near Amanita gemmata, but it's tricky to say since the base of the stem appears to have lost some important identifying features. Regardless it appears to be an Amanita in section Amanita.
2) Amanita in section Vaginatae. Edible.
3) Did these have skirts/rings on the stem at all? If not, they may be something interesting in section Amidella considering the thick volva and red and brown staining reactions on the volva and stem. The mushroom seems very distinctive and I wish I knew west coast Amanita better
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