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TheGreenArrow
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Athiests, C'mon really?
#19088541 - 11/05/13 03:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Look let me just start out by saying we all get it you don't believe in God. What I can't seem to understand is why must you proselytize your atheism? Why must you post shit on facebook? Why do you care whether or not people believe in an imaginary old dude in the sky? IMO proselytizing atheists are every bit as bad as bible thumping door knockers. Why must people feel the need to shove they're beliefs (or lack there of) down other people's throat? I just don't get this mentality, Why? I mean we get it Your fucking right. and fucking this? http://firstchurchofatheism.com What the fuck do they do sit in a building every Sunday and talk about how everybody who believes in a God is wrong? I just don't see the purpose.
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Icelander
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TheGreenArrow said: Look let me just start out by saying we all get it you don't believe in God. What I can't seem to understand is why must you proselytize your atheism? Why must you post shit on facebook? Why do you care whether or not people believe in an imaginary old dude in the sky? IMO proselytizing atheists are every bit as bad as bible thumping door knockers. Why must people feel the need to shove they're beliefs (or lack there of) down other people's throat? I just don't get this mentality, Why? I mean we get it Your fucking right. and fucking this? http://firstchurchofatheism.com What the fuck do they do sit in a building every Sunday and talk about how everybody who believes in a God is wrong? I just don't see the purpose. 
For the same reason you may talk about how all is love and god even exists and all that stuff. It's what humans do. This seems very basic to me but I've been around a lot longer than you.
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TheGreenArrow
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Re: Athiests, C'mon really? [Re: Icelander]
#19088668 - 11/05/13 04:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wouldn't say I prescribe to the idea that "all is love". I think that consciousness is what drives matter to coalesce. But I at a point I stopped trying to convince others of my thoughts on existence. Maybe not though. I guess what I'm really ranting on is why do people feel the need to convince others they're right about it?
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Why do you care whether or not people believe in an imaginary old dude in the sky?
Delusional surroundings backfire on myself.
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TheGreenArrow said: I wouldn't say I prescribe to the idea that "all is love". I think that consciousness is what drives matter to coalesce. But I at a point I stopped trying to convince others of my thoughts on existence. Maybe not though. I guess what I'm really ranting on is why do people feel the need to convince others they're right about it? 
I told you why, it's what humans do. When you get to be my age that's all the explanation you know you are going to get and it's all you need to proceed.
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im an atheist and i don't shove my beliefs down other peoples throats
i go to a christian church twice a week . im still an atheist , i just go to socialize with people .
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Re: Athiests, C'mon really? [Re: PLOWTO]
#19088912 - 11/05/13 07:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I prefer a bar.
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Re: Athiests, C'mon really? [Re: Icelander] 1
#19088913 - 11/05/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Icelander said:
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TheGreenArrow said: Look let me just start out by saying we all get it you don't believe in God. What I can't seem to understand is why must you proselytize your atheism? Why must you post shit on facebook? Why do you care whether or not people believe in an imaginary old dude in the sky? IMO proselytizing atheists are every bit as bad as bible thumping door knockers. Why must people feel the need to shove they're beliefs (or lack there of) down other people's throat? I just don't get this mentality, Why? I mean we get it Your fucking right. and fucking this? http://firstchurchofatheism.com What the fuck do they do sit in a building every Sunday and talk about how everybody who believes in a God is wrong? I just don't see the purpose. 
For the same reason you may talk about how all is love and god even exists and all that stuff. It's what humans do. This seems very basic to me but I've been around a lot longer than you.
Basically this. Humans like validation.
That being said, there is more danger imo of bible thumping door knockers vs. proselytizing atheists - atheism doesn't breed intolerance and issues like religion does.
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Re: Athiests, C'mon really? [Re: Zombi3]
#19088960 - 11/05/13 08:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: Atheists 
Was this directed towards me?
I don't tell people what to believe in or not believe in but I try to speak my mind. So I do care what my surroundings do, it seriously lower my living standard and could hit me hard in the face one day if I don't. This is not only about religions but ideologies and fantasy in general. What the person next to me does alter my existence, that's why I don't want any interaction with him or her, but this goes both ways and when they, the masses, decide what laws, rules and morals to control me with I have to pay attention.
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Re: Athiests, C'mon really? [Re: Icelander] 1
#19089018 - 11/05/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Icelander for Atheist Pope.
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TheGreenArrow said:\ Why must you post shit on facebook? Why do you care whether or not people believe in an imaginary old dude in the sky? IMO proselytizing atheists are every bit as bad as bible thumping door knockers. Why must people feel the need to shove they're beliefs (or lack there of) down other people's throat?
I wish I didn't have to care, unfortunately the religious nuts are fucking up society with their irrational beliefs.
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TheGreenArrow said: Look let me just start out by saying we all get it you don't believe in God. What I can't seem to understand is why must you proselytize your atheism? Why must you post shit on facebook? Why do you care whether or not people believe in an imaginary old dude in the sky? IMO proselytizing atheists are every bit as bad as bible thumping door knockers. Why must people feel the need to shove they're beliefs (or lack there of) down other people's throat? I just don't get this mentality, Why? I mean we get it Your fucking right. and fucking this? http://firstchurchofatheism.com What the fuck do they do sit in a building every Sunday and talk about how everybody who believes in a God is wrong? I just don't see the purpose. 
it is of no concern to you what anyone does in public forums or IRL.
"i disapprove of what you say, but i defend to the death your right to say it" - voltaire
i believe yours is an emotional, reactionary comment.
perhaps an atheist is only a man of reason, with no debt to your god, or your facebook.
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Re: Athiests, C'mon, can't religitards spell? [Re: TheGreenArrow] 1
#19089529 - 11/05/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bill Nye, the harmless children's edu-tainer known as "The Science Guy," managed to offend a select group of adults in Waco, Texas at a presentation, when he suggested that the moon does not emit light, but instead reflects the light of the sun.
As even most elementary-school graduates know, the moon reflects the light of the sun but produces no light of its own.
But don't tell that to the good people of Waco, who were "visibly angered by what some perceived as irreverence," according to the Waco Tribune.
Nye was in town to participate in McLennan Community College's Distinguished Lecture Series. He gave two lectures on such unfunny and adult topics as global warming, Mars exploration, and energy consumption.
But nothing got people as riled as when he brought up Genesis 1:16, which reads: "God made two great lights -- the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars."
The lesser light, he pointed out, is not a light at all, but only a reflector.
At this point, several people in the audience stormed out in fury. One woman yelled "We believe in God!" and left with three children, thus ensuring that people across America would read about the incident and conclude that Waco is as nutty as they'd always suspected.
This story originally appeared in the Waco Tribune, but the newspaper has mysteriously pulled its story from the online version, presumably to avoid further embarrassment.
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Re: Athiests, C'mon really? [Re: stzacrack]
#19090306 - 11/05/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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stzacrack said:
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TheGreenArrow said: Look let me just start out by saying we all get it you don't believe in God. What I can't seem to understand is why must you proselytize your atheism? Why must you post shit on facebook? Why do you care whether or not people believe in an imaginary old dude in the sky? IMO proselytizing atheists are every bit as bad as bible thumping door knockers. Why must people feel the need to shove they're beliefs (or lack there of) down other people's throat? I just don't get this mentality, Why? I mean we get it Your fucking right. and fucking this? http://firstchurchofatheism.com What the fuck do they do sit in a building every Sunday and talk about how everybody who believes in a God is wrong? I just don't see the purpose. 
it is of no concern to you what anyone does in public forums or IRL.
"i disapprove of what you say, but i defend to the death your right to say it" - voltaire
i believe yours is an emotional, reactionary comment.
perhaps an atheist is only a man of reason, with no debt to your god, or your facebook.
I never said I was christian, and I'm not sure I like the word God. I am in no means trying to say one theology or lack there of is right or wrong. And the only emotion I feel is annoyance at people who have to be right. Just seems like a waste of energy to post "God is Lame" memes on fb and similar situations in the hopes of an obligitory argument. I mean can't you just let people believe what makes them feel better about the inevitiblity of death?
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I mean can't you just let people believe what makes them feel better about the inevitiblity of death?
Less words more guillotines!
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liquidlounge said:
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Zombi3 said: Atheists 
Was this directed towards me?
I don't tell people what to believe in or not believe in but I try to speak my mind. So I do care what my surroundings do, it seriously lower my living standard and could hit me hard in the face one day if I don't. This is not only about religions but ideologies and fantasy in general. What the person next to me does alter my existence, that's why I don't want any interaction with him or her, but this goes both ways and when they, the masses, decide what laws, rules and morals to control me with I have to pay attention.
Nope. Just atheists in general. You guys make me and all the time. Dont get me wrong I dont hate or dislike atheists, I mean to each his own right? I just cant for the life of me understand the atheist mentality. Seems like a bigger joke than most religions IMHO.
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Re: Athiests, C'mon really? [Re: Zombi3] 1
#19090791 - 11/05/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The atheist view is based on not believing in what one can't perceive. How does that not make sense?
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What came first the chicken or the egg? I find it eons easier to believe that a bearded man in the sky willed the universe into existence vs some atoms and elements or whatever collided, resulting in our advanced circulatory system or phytochrome cells in plants or the aroura borealis (just a few examples). It sounds like such a major load of crap to me that every single element, every single atom, every single everything needed to form rocks, trees, people, cats, molds, viruses, or anything, was all present in the same place at the exact fraction of a second it needed to be in order to make all that. Furthermore I find it plainly absurd to claim that all the ecessary ingrediants if you will, were just floating around waiting to make us, and earth, and everything here.
I read somewhere (not looking for the reference) that space is expanding, or stretching. This leads me to the logical conclusion that it started in one spot, perhaps as a much smaller more compact space and if you go back far enough theoretically "space" was once a tiny tiny tiny spec of, existence or something, or nothing. Where did it all come from in the beginning? Its wonderful for you to say that space was there and there was some elements or chemicals or atoms just hanging around you know making planets and solar systems as per usual. But to me thats hogwash.
To me, like I said, it makes tremendously more sense that a god planned this all out and created us. Its laughable to believe its all a coincidence.
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