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Libertin
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Re: Is dissatisfaction with life a personal failure or is the universe to blame? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#19099547 - 11/07/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think Buddhism kind of says that 'life is suffering'.
A modern perspective on personal failure: in a society which believes in meritocracy, people who succeed are deemed to have done so due to personal efforts. The corollary of this is that failure is also deemed to be personal. The reality is that a perfect meritocracy cannot exist; there are far too many factors which influence the relative success of any given individual, we tend to bundle these factors together into the term 'fate'. Whether or not you believe in determinism and that notion of 'fate', there are nonetheless many factors in your life outside of your control.
To summarise, we are merely [mostly] products of our environment.
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FishOilTheKid
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Re: Is dissatisfaction with life a personal failure or is the universe to blame? [Re: circastes]
#19100654 - 11/07/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I blame it on Mckenna and his heroic dose suggestion. That and the 'other.' And UFO phenom as oversoul. I'm stuck here.
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Maddy1711
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Re: Is dissatisfaction with life a personal failure or is the universe to blame? [Re: usulpsychonaut]
#19101158 - 11/07/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think that's the rite way to find answers. Request you to keep the discussion healthy and avoid such language. Thnx
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Is dissatisfaction with life a personal failure or is the universe to blame? [Re: FishOilTheKid]
#19101279 - 11/07/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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FishOilTheKid said: I blame it on Mckenna and his heroic dose suggestion. That and the 'other.' And UFO phenom as oversoul. I'm stuck here.

DAMN YOU, MCKENNA!
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Icelander
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Re: Is dissatisfaction with life a personal failure or is the universe to blame? [Re: Maddy1711]
#19102241 - 11/07/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maddy1711 said: I don't think that's the rite way to find answers. Request you to keep the discussion healthy and avoid such language. Thnx
I think your god sucks donkey dicks in hell. 
Now bugger off. 
And don't pm me with whining and begging anymore.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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EternalCowabunga
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Re: Is dissatisfaction with life a personal failure or is the universe to blame? [Re: Icelander]
#19102305 - 11/07/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh shit, son
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TheFakeSunRa
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Re: Is dissatisfaction with life a personal failure or is the universe to blame? [Re: circastes]
#19102810 - 11/07/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Read Denial of Death
The Universe is to blame.
-------------------- [quote]Asante said: You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar. You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason. I disendorse you.[/quote]
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Cognitive_Shift
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Re: Is dissatisfaction with life a personal failure or is the universe to blame? [Re: circastes]
#19102921 - 11/07/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Satisfaction is temporary. Like all others feelings it will pass... (unless you're depressed) Pretty much all of my problems of life dissatisfaction come from myself.
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Re: Is dissatisfaction with life a personal failure or is the universe to blame? [Re: circastes]
#19103034 - 11/07/13 09:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I reckon this is a tricky one.
The Universe is to blame, in my opinion, but blaming it is an utterly futile waste of time, and changing one's perspective, fair or not, might be the only reasonable approach.
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Cognitive_Shift
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Re: Is dissatisfaction with life a personal failure or is the universe to blame? [Re: viktor]
#19103049 - 11/07/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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How can you make a separation between yourself and the universe? You are apart of the universe, you are the universe. What ever philosophy you hold dear to your heart about the mind your body is just as much apart of the universe as the chair you sit in...
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circastes
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Re: Is dissatisfaction with life a personal failure or is the universe to blame? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#19103167 - 11/07/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was sort of suggesting if life isn't good enough then oneself is to blame. Take for instance childhood and how fulfilling it was, why is it not that way now? Life has the ingredients in it for that all over.
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Re: Is dissatisfaction with life a personal failure or is the universe to blame? [Re: circastes]
#19103210 - 11/07/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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circastes said: Just wondering. I have blamed the universe for being such an asshole to its offspring before, but coming well from some mental issues I find myself breathing life into life, 'getting it' again, wondering what I was bitching about...
It seems one day there can be so little, then the next I wonder how people fall into nihilistic thinking because there is so much... the human world is so vast and complex, no one expected we would get bored.
Both or neither IMO. Its give and take as far as I can tell.
-------------------- Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain
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Cognitive_Shift
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Re: Is dissatisfaction with life a personal failure or is the universe to blame? [Re: circastes]
#19103223 - 11/07/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Becoming an adult and having responsibilities is not very fun but it can be. Everyone wishes they could live in the blissful ignorance of childhood. Getting old sucks. I don't know many people that are "satisfied" with life but the ones that are work hard and accept their circumstances. It all fluctuates tho, happy sad satisfaction dissatisfaction. General unhappiness in the western world today seems to be pretty common these days, some people just don't have the balls to say anything. I blamed my problems on the universe for a long time but that never actually helped me. I just accept the only thing i can control is myself and if i'm feeling hopeless or start feeling the "don't give a fuck about anythings" creeping up i can only change what i'm going to do about it and nothing else.
I don't know you so i can't offer any advice except share my own experiences with the EXACT same feeling. The life is suffering concept in Buddhism you talked about says that suffering comes from your attachment to material objects, not that life its self is suffering.
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