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Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? 3
#19088435 - 11/05/13 02:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So I've been hearing this around a lot and I think I agree, I wouldn't feel right profiting from something that people can use to enlighten themselves with, especially something as beautiful as shrooms. What are people's thoughts on trading psychedelics however? Say trading shrooms for some herb? (Only with close friends mind you) I don't see an issue with it seeing as it is mutually beneficial and we're just distributing substances that we have excess of to those who don't have access to it.
Any thoughts?
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19088439 - 11/05/13 02:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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dont sell drugs
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19088443 - 11/05/13 02:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think that is a fantastic idea! I need to go to Australia. If everyone there is like you then I will love it.
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I think it all depends on context. I've been at music festivals where I've given away several grams of DMT in doses to people for free.
but if one of those people asks me "hey man can I get a few grams" I'd charge them.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: NWlight] 3
#19088472 - 11/05/13 02:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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selling is trading. how is money for drugs not mutually beneficial. unless you're forcing someone to pay for drugs, when someone pays money for anything its a mutual benefit or it wouldn't take place.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: SurReality] 6
#19088478 - 11/05/13 02:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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karma doesn't exist.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: mellowparty] 1
#19088480 - 11/05/13 02:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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mellowparty said: karma doesn't exist.
Ya it does.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: mellowparty] 2
#19088481 - 11/05/13 02:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think it exists in the sense that there is some governing body that makes all things fair in the end, but the general idea that putting out positive energy will cause more positive energy to come back to you is generally true
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: SurReality]
#19088484 - 11/05/13 02:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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In a perfect world this would be ideal.. to bad it's not.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: NWlight] 1
#19088485 - 11/05/13 02:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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NWlight said: I don't think it exists in the sense that there is some governing body that makes all things fair in the end, but the general idea that putting out positive energy will cause more positive energy to come back to you is generally true
Thats all in your head. Per se it doesn't exist but believing it exists it can have profound psychological effects over you existence. Just like religion.
I don't sell psychedelics cause its illegal tho I sold a free mail sample of 25i for 120 bucks lol (and I sold it as 25i too).
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: mellowparty]
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no man, if you're a dick to other people they will be dicks back. that's all i'm saying
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: NWlight]
#19088489 - 11/05/13 02:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thats not karma tho.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: mellowparty]
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it means different things to different people, that's what it means to me
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: NWlight] 2
#19088497 - 11/05/13 02:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I see it as a farmer selling corn or wheat. Not everybody is going to have the time or know how to grow mushrooms, but that does not mean they should not experience it. If someone puts in the time, energy, and money into growing something that people are willing to pay for then where is the harm. I am sure if people who sell mushrooms could trade them for things such as food or gasoline or rent then they would not have to sell them.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19088531 - 11/05/13 03:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Karma was just another way of saying good/bad thing to do but I understand that money is simply another form of trade but I hate the idea of money, it's a dirty intermediary for useful trade. And yeah I plan on just giving them to my friends for free (I'm already shouting them their first trip because we're all doing it together) but if they insist then the best option for trade would probably be another psychedelic I think.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha] 5
#19088548 - 11/05/13 03:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol, i love when i see people using the internet say they hate using money... are you not paying money for your internet? did you trade mushrooms for you computer/device? how rent?
maybe your not paying money, maybe your underage...
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: SurReality]
#19088586 - 11/05/13 03:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fine, I'll rephrase it just for you, I hate using money when I don't have to.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19088590 - 11/05/13 04:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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you have to have internet and a computer, i'm sure there are plenty of things you enjoy that you bought with money which you don't have to buy but i don't know you... how old are you?
sorry if you think i'm nit picking at your words. but come on, do you really hate spending money? if you do that's fine, but from what you are showing about yourself it seems like you are full of shit.
if my understanding of you is off tell me.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha] 4
#19088597 - 11/05/13 04:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Though I have never sold I have bought, and I'm fine with people making a respectable markup.
Theres a simple as dirt formula for a respectable markup thats practiced throughout trade: Sell at no more than twice your buy price.
Unethical are:
1) Letting people pay through the nose for stuff you got on the cheap, this hinders the free flow of psychedelics and dupes the customer.
2) Misrepresenting drugs, weight and strength, for instance selling weak ass shrooms as bomb, or NBOMe as LSD, or 7/8oz of cactus powder as an ounce, either straight up or cut to make iot appear a full ounce. It dupes the customer, might endanger him or her and is simply dishonest practice condemned from biblical times onward:
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: Asante]
#19088603 - 11/05/13 04:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i used to feel the same way about only marking up 100%, but now i feel like selling at a price that it is worth to you is fine.
mark up also depends on availability. if i scored a bunch of acid, so 1000 for 2grand. this is something that i may never be able to get again in my life and if i even want to sell any of it at all i sure as hell ain't letting go of one hit for less than the price of a good beer at a bar because its worth more than that to me.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: SurReality]
#19088615 - 11/05/13 04:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sure there are things I have that I don't need that I used money to buy, but if I could get myself a chocolate bar or a new set of skateboard wheels for mopping someones floor or mowing someones lawn etc I'd certainly much rather do that than use money.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha] 1
#19088626 - 11/05/13 04:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i have known hitch hiker-travelers who will wash dishes for a few hours for a meal at denny's, and the manager is more than happy to send the dishwash home early and so is the dishwasher happy to leave lol.
that is part of bartering, you need to figure out who actually needs what you have to offer other than cash. because most people are in business to pay bills and shit its not easy.
i also enjoy bartering, but to say i hate spending money if i don't need too. i would be telling a lie that is fooling no one. money is awesome because it will get you what ever you want or need because EVERYONE NEEDS MONEY.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: SurReality]
#19088779 - 11/05/13 06:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SurReality said: EVERYONE NEEDS MONEY.
Unfortunately. Except at BM I guess once you've spent loads of money to get there.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: Skinty]
#19088838 - 11/05/13 07:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bad karma?
Buy as cheap as you can and sell as high as you can. Maximize profit on anything you can sell. If some guy suggests a price that is higher than what you charge, immediately sell to him as much as you can.
Profit is the name of the game. Greed is something you need to feed.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: Asante]
#19088958 - 11/05/13 08:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Though I have never sold I have bought, and I'm fine with people making a respectable markup.
Theres a simple as dirt formula for a respectable markup thats practiced throughout trade: Sell at no more than twice your buy price.
Unethical are:
1) Letting people pay through the nose for stuff you got on the cheap, this hinders the free flow of psychedelics and dupes the customer.
2) Misrepresenting drugs, weight and strength, for instance selling weak ass shrooms as bomb, or NBOMe as LSD, or 7/8oz of cactus powder as an ounce, either straight up or cut to make iot appear a full ounce. It dupes the customer, might endanger him or her and is simply dishonest practice condemned from biblical times onward:
I agree with the second one. People who knowingly misrepresent one drug as another should go to jail.
The first one I don't believe is unethical, but in many cases it's bad business. If you charge a crazy amount for something that can be obtained for a much lower price, eventually people will figure that out and decide you're an asshole who they don't want to deal with. If it's something illegal or quasi-legal you're selling, it gives people who are in a position to get you in legal trouble a potential reason to hate you, not a good combination. None of that means that you're doing anything unethical for asking $XYZ for whatever it is though. It's your property and you can ask whatever outrageous amount you like, and people are free to refuse that price if it's not to their liking.
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Ya it does.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19089329 - 11/05/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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FunkyBuddha said: So I've been hearing this around a lot and I think I agree, I wouldn't feel right profiting from something that people can use to enlighten themselves with, especially something as beautiful as shrooms.
There is a cost and legal risk involved in growing them, so IMO it's wrong to expect people to give them away for free. Also, I think saying you can "enlighten" yourself with shrooms is really pushing it. Judging from people on here, no two trippers experience the same enlightenment and everyone thinks that their revelations are right.
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What are people's thoughts on trading psychedelics however? Say trading shrooms for some herb? (Only with close friends mind you) I don't see an issue with it seeing as it is mutually beneficial and we're just distributing substances that we have excess of to those who don't have access to it.
How is that any different than trading shrooms for money? That is also mutually beneficial and you can use the money to grow more. Plus, if you really believed in karma, then wouldn't you deserve some kind of reward for taking the legal risk associated with selling them?
TL;DR -- sell or trade, as long as you trade fairly there's nothing wrong with either.
Edited by NetDiver (11/05/13 10:16 AM)
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: NetDiver]
#19089502 - 11/05/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wouldnt mind buying shrooms
can never find any where I live.... searched for a while...
its not bad karma, but giving them away for free sometimes to people who you can see might benefit from them is good karma
overcharging too much is bad karma though IMO price 1/8th at reasonable price.... dont sell half eights :-)
and if you want to share the love, make chocolates and sell them cheaply
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: lessismore]
#19089631 - 11/05/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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mio said: its not bad karma, but giving them away for free sometimes to people who you can see might benefit from them is good karma
Yeah giving stuff away for free can be a nice thing to do. There are no drug gods who get angered when "enlightenment-giving" drugs are exchanged for money though, just as there are no food gods who get angry every time someone buys a cabbage at the grocery store. (At least probably not.)
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
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I give away hits of DMT for free here and there, if someone wants more than that then I trade them for things like LSD and whatnot.
Works out great, haven't had to actually ever pay for psychedelics because I always just make/grow them or trade for them.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: psi] 2
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psi said:
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mio said: its not bad karma, but giving them away for free sometimes to people who you can see might benefit from them is good karma
Yeah giving stuff away for free can be a nice thing to do. There are no drug gods who get angered when "enlightenment-giving" drugs are exchanged for money though, just as there are no food gods who get angry every time someone buys a cabbage at the grocery store. (At least probably not.)
Its a bullshit preconceived hippie notion.
I've given drugs for free in the past. Then I realized I'm being stupid so I started selling (of course in a hypothetical universe where its not illegal). Well I pretty much have to sell them cause I have no money.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: Soulidarity]
#19089783 - 11/05/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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dont sell drugs
fixed.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
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I think there is nothing wrong with profiting from psychedelics, because in a lot of areas access to them is so limited. The supply is so fickle that after a yearlong dry spell in which I could not get any, I gave up and started growing my own. I would much prefer paying someone else for them who is taking the risk of incarceration than growing them myself.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: Cubedude]
#19089971 - 11/05/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah now that I think about it I guess if it's appropriate for the situation then selling psychedelics (in a dimension that it is legal to do so) is fine but I think if your situation permits it, it's never a bad thing to sell them cheaply or give them away for free or other entheogens. So in my case, I'm not tight on money at the moment and it's not that big of a risk for me to grow because I live in the middle of nowhere however it's a long way into town for me to get some herb so I'll either give them away or trade for herb.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
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If psychedelics became available for free on a mass scale -- whether or not this is practical -- it would certainly help with their acceptance and re-enforce the concept that they are beneficial substances.
The ayahuasca organization featured in Nat Geo's "Hallucinogens" episode says that they do their work for free.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: s240779]
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Psychedelics for the masses? Thats cute
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: s240779]
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SOMEBODY has to sell the drugs, otherwise; consumers would be very, very disappointed.
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Ya it does.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: LiquidGlass]
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mellowparty said: karma doesn't exist.
Ya it does.

well if you believe in karma, as in the hindu/eastern religion sense that came up with it, the explanation would be the kid live an evil life before being born into that one.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: SurReality]
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One of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
Drugs cost money. psychedelics are drugs. Therefore psychs=money.
If your rich then waste your money how you will. but for most of us "normal folk" we have to buy our drugs like everyone else.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: SurReality]
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mellowparty said: karma doesn't exist.
Ya it does.

well if you believe in karma, as in the hindu/eastern religion sense that came up with it, the explanation would be the kid live an evil life before being born into that one.
So all those millions of starving kids in africa are being punished for former lives? Ya ok 
And so anyone who lived a decent live is not allowed to be born in ethiopia or other impoverished nations? That is complete nonsense
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: LiquidGlass]
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i didn't say i believe it. karma is incorporated in reincarnation.
most people throw around "karma" aren't talking about reincarnation but just "what goes around comes around"
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha] 2
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Psychedelics are material goods that are produced through the expenditure of time and resources. I have misgivings about capitalism in general but I don't see how it would be "wrong" to sell it at profit if it's "right" to sell anything at profit.
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why wouldn't be alright to make a profit? even if you don't think about money. the purpose of trading is to make a gain, if you trade mushrooms for weed both parties are making a gain in their own mind. the value of goods are not defined by the market/selling price but by what its worth to whom ever is getting rid of it or gaining it.
i'm really enjoying this topic... maybe i should take my business degree in the direction of economics, the psychology of trading is pretty cool...
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: SurReality] 1
#19093880 - 11/06/13 03:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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my friends always profited slightly on the weed they sold me
but I still was happy to buy from them, good quality, and got it cheap :-)
cant see it is a problem... same for shrooms as long as the value of the experience is worth more than the price
price it like an equivalent experience
3hour movie ticket, or 6 hour shroom trip with 4D imagery in your mind?
its hard to find shrooms, so please sell them to people who look like they could use an experience dont sell to overly addictive personalities/unstable individuals, could be dangerous possibly...
have a nice talk and decide if you want to sell to the person
inform them etc.. its not bad karma
give away for free when you feel like it/when you got plenty
if I had plenty of shrooms I would be giving them away for free to my friends, since they have helped me find myself/overcome depression and Im sure they could help others too usually its LSD Im lucky to find, then I share that when friends want to trip 2 tickets for myself, or 1 ticket and 1/3 hit for my friend for a great healing trip?:-) usually my friends only want to trip once, so it solves itself, dont know a lot of people who like to trip... but I believe they can heal people in the right setting
salvia opens the mind a lot too... and cheap .. like 1 USD for a trip that is stronger than most LSD trips most people who smoke weed dare to try it once, but not twice (even though it was a good trip)
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: lessismore]
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Yeah I guess that's a good point with the equivalent experience thing, and yeah I'm only dealing with my buddies who I've known for a few years already but I've got another two mates who I'm unsure of dealing with, not because I don't know them but I know they aren't going to respect the shrooms and if I have them 5 grams and said spilt it into two trips and try and learn something I can guarantee that they would take all 5 to 'trip balls' and totally waste it by either freaking out or just being idiots so I don't know about them...
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19095496 - 11/06/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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karma doesn't have laws, you make the whole idea of karma up in your head as well as it's rules.
If you are ok with something then karma will be fine.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19095514 - 11/06/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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thou shall not profiteer of Psychedelics
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: Mello Kitty]
#19095620 - 11/06/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Karma = made up
Money = speculative fundamental source of human existence
yep, this thread is like every other thread.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19095724 - 11/06/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Someone once told me something that I may have taken to heart.
'profit is not a dirty word'
IMHO, if you can afford to pay for it and the person can make a bit from it then no problem.
However if you're selling it, the person is a worth recipient and you can afford to give it to them then you should do.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: Inconspicuous]
#19095741 - 11/06/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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profit isn't dirty; doing something for no reason, that's dirty.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19095891 - 11/06/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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OP ...I believe that everyone should share their psychedelic wealth with another (with no expectations of anything in return)at least sometimes. That, to me, is how you can truly capture some of the magic that these enthogens possess.
I don't believe they should be incorporated with cocaine, heroin, or meth...that cheapens them and lessens their true values.Not saying that some should not recoup at least enough to at least provide some creature comforts after investing time and money of their own into growing or hunting them...IDK ...in a perfect world....there would be no need for money and everyone would just pay it forward.....So I say, at least do it occasionally.  M
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: Thayendanegea]
#19095899 - 11/06/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: mpd]
#19096333 - 11/06/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
yep, this thread is like every other thread.
How so?
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19096576 - 11/06/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i see it like this,
to grow mushrooms while having premeditated their sale, this i'd less likely approve of.
but if they are grown for your own sake and a friend knows and offers you money for some then this i see as more convenient.
to grow them simply to sell and distribute, even though i may not have tried my first mushrooms if it weren't for this mentality, knowing what they are capable of, i don't think it's the right way to go about it. in fact i think it's because of their sale and distribution that caused it's criminalization.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19096781 - 11/06/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's pretty much impossible to determine what the karmic result of an action could be. The person sold psychedelics may lose their mind or get arrested, or they may have a totally enlightening experience and solve the next step in quantum physics. All one can really do is follow their heart and do what they feel is right.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19096870 - 11/06/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Samurai Drifter said: There is a cost and legal risk involved in growing them, so IMO it's wrong to expect people to give them away for free. Also, I think saying you can "enlighten" yourself with shrooms is really pushing it. Judging from people on here, no two trippers experience the same enlightenment and everyone thinks that their revelations are right.
This. I'll give small amounts of psychs to close friends for free or at no profit. But if I were to sell beyond that you're damn right I'm gonna charge a little bit of markup. There's nothing wrong with making money for your time, effort, and risk. It's crazy to think otherwise. Virtuous maybe, but crazy.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: daiy]
#19096891 - 11/06/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't see what the big deal is with selling psychs, as long as you're not ripping people off.
I wish more people sold 'em, it is all but impossible to get psychs around here. But you can get all the heroin and crack you want, it's all over.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: s240779]
#19096932 - 11/06/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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My friend once paid $100 for an amount of LSD that would have only cost him $10 back in the 60s (or at a psytrance festival with nice dealers).
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19097041 - 11/06/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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LiquidGlass said:
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yep, this thread is like every other thread.
How so?
just in that these topics have already been mulled over before with the same results... and the same cadence, and the same words and platitudes.
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