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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: SurReality]
#19093772 - 11/06/13 02:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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mellowparty said: karma doesn't exist.
Ya it does.

well if you believe in karma, as in the hindu/eastern religion sense that came up with it, the explanation would be the kid live an evil life before being born into that one.
So all those millions of starving kids in africa are being punished for former lives? Ya ok 
And so anyone who lived a decent live is not allowed to be born in ethiopia or other impoverished nations? That is complete nonsense
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19093780 - 11/06/13 02:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i didn't say i believe it. karma is incorporated in reincarnation.
most people throw around "karma" aren't talking about reincarnation but just "what goes around comes around"
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha] 2
#19093782 - 11/06/13 02:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psychedelics are material goods that are produced through the expenditure of time and resources. I have misgivings about capitalism in general but I don't see how it would be "wrong" to sell it at profit if it's "right" to sell anything at profit.
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why wouldn't be alright to make a profit? even if you don't think about money. the purpose of trading is to make a gain, if you trade mushrooms for weed both parties are making a gain in their own mind. the value of goods are not defined by the market/selling price but by what its worth to whom ever is getting rid of it or gaining it.
i'm really enjoying this topic... maybe i should take my business degree in the direction of economics, the psychology of trading is pretty cool...
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: SurReality] 1
#19093880 - 11/06/13 03:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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my friends always profited slightly on the weed they sold me
but I still was happy to buy from them, good quality, and got it cheap :-)
cant see it is a problem... same for shrooms as long as the value of the experience is worth more than the price
price it like an equivalent experience
3hour movie ticket, or 6 hour shroom trip with 4D imagery in your mind?
its hard to find shrooms, so please sell them to people who look like they could use an experience dont sell to overly addictive personalities/unstable individuals, could be dangerous possibly...
have a nice talk and decide if you want to sell to the person
inform them etc.. its not bad karma
give away for free when you feel like it/when you got plenty
if I had plenty of shrooms I would be giving them away for free to my friends, since they have helped me find myself/overcome depression and Im sure they could help others too usually its LSD Im lucky to find, then I share that when friends want to trip 2 tickets for myself, or 1 ticket and 1/3 hit for my friend for a great healing trip?:-) usually my friends only want to trip once, so it solves itself, dont know a lot of people who like to trip... but I believe they can heal people in the right setting
salvia opens the mind a lot too... and cheap .. like 1 USD for a trip that is stronger than most LSD trips most people who smoke weed dare to try it once, but not twice (even though it was a good trip)
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: lessismore]
#19095486 - 11/06/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I guess that's a good point with the equivalent experience thing, and yeah I'm only dealing with my buddies who I've known for a few years already but I've got another two mates who I'm unsure of dealing with, not because I don't know them but I know they aren't going to respect the shrooms and if I have them 5 grams and said spilt it into two trips and try and learn something I can guarantee that they would take all 5 to 'trip balls' and totally waste it by either freaking out or just being idiots so I don't know about them...
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19095496 - 11/06/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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karma doesn't have laws, you make the whole idea of karma up in your head as well as it's rules.
If you are ok with something then karma will be fine.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19095514 - 11/06/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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thou shall not profiteer of Psychedelics
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: Mello Kitty]
#19095620 - 11/06/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Karma = made up
Money = speculative fundamental source of human existence
yep, this thread is like every other thread.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19095724 - 11/06/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Someone once told me something that I may have taken to heart.
'profit is not a dirty word'
IMHO, if you can afford to pay for it and the person can make a bit from it then no problem.
However if you're selling it, the person is a worth recipient and you can afford to give it to them then you should do.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: Inconspicuous]
#19095741 - 11/06/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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profit isn't dirty; doing something for no reason, that's dirty.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19095891 - 11/06/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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OP ...I believe that everyone should share their psychedelic wealth with another (with no expectations of anything in return)at least sometimes. That, to me, is how you can truly capture some of the magic that these enthogens possess.
I don't believe they should be incorporated with cocaine, heroin, or meth...that cheapens them and lessens their true values.Not saying that some should not recoup at least enough to at least provide some creature comforts after investing time and money of their own into growing or hunting them...IDK ...in a perfect world....there would be no need for money and everyone would just pay it forward.....So I say, at least do it occasionally.  M
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: Thayendanegea]
#19095899 - 11/06/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Without reward there can be no risk.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: mpd]
#19096333 - 11/06/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yep, this thread is like every other thread.
How so?
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19096576 - 11/06/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i see it like this,
to grow mushrooms while having premeditated their sale, this i'd less likely approve of.
but if they are grown for your own sake and a friend knows and offers you money for some then this i see as more convenient.
to grow them simply to sell and distribute, even though i may not have tried my first mushrooms if it weren't for this mentality, knowing what they are capable of, i don't think it's the right way to go about it. in fact i think it's because of their sale and distribution that caused it's criminalization.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19096781 - 11/06/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's pretty much impossible to determine what the karmic result of an action could be. The person sold psychedelics may lose their mind or get arrested, or they may have a totally enlightening experience and solve the next step in quantum physics. All one can really do is follow their heart and do what they feel is right.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19096870 - 11/06/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Samurai Drifter said: There is a cost and legal risk involved in growing them, so IMO it's wrong to expect people to give them away for free. Also, I think saying you can "enlighten" yourself with shrooms is really pushing it. Judging from people on here, no two trippers experience the same enlightenment and everyone thinks that their revelations are right.
This. I'll give small amounts of psychs to close friends for free or at no profit. But if I were to sell beyond that you're damn right I'm gonna charge a little bit of markup. There's nothing wrong with making money for your time, effort, and risk. It's crazy to think otherwise. Virtuous maybe, but crazy.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: daiy]
#19096891 - 11/06/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't see what the big deal is with selling psychs, as long as you're not ripping people off.
I wish more people sold 'em, it is all but impossible to get psychs around here. But you can get all the heroin and crack you want, it's all over.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: s240779]
#19096932 - 11/06/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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My friend once paid $100 for an amount of LSD that would have only cost him $10 back in the 60s (or at a psytrance festival with nice dealers).
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19097041 - 11/06/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yep, this thread is like every other thread.
How so?
just in that these topics have already been mulled over before with the same results... and the same cadence, and the same words and platitudes.
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