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FunkyBuddha
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: SurReality]
#19088615 - 11/05/13 04:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sure there are things I have that I don't need that I used money to buy, but if I could get myself a chocolate bar or a new set of skateboard wheels for mopping someones floor or mowing someones lawn etc I'd certainly much rather do that than use money.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha] 1
#19088626 - 11/05/13 04:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i have known hitch hiker-travelers who will wash dishes for a few hours for a meal at denny's, and the manager is more than happy to send the dishwash home early and so is the dishwasher happy to leave lol.
that is part of bartering, you need to figure out who actually needs what you have to offer other than cash. because most people are in business to pay bills and shit its not easy.
i also enjoy bartering, but to say i hate spending money if i don't need too. i would be telling a lie that is fooling no one. money is awesome because it will get you what ever you want or need because EVERYONE NEEDS MONEY.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: SurReality]
#19088779 - 11/05/13 06:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SurReality said: EVERYONE NEEDS MONEY.
Unfortunately. Except at BM I guess once you've spent loads of money to get there.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: Skinty]
#19088838 - 11/05/13 07:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bad karma?
Buy as cheap as you can and sell as high as you can. Maximize profit on anything you can sell. If some guy suggests a price that is higher than what you charge, immediately sell to him as much as you can.
Profit is the name of the game. Greed is something you need to feed.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: Asante]
#19088958 - 11/05/13 08:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Though I have never sold I have bought, and I'm fine with people making a respectable markup.
Theres a simple as dirt formula for a respectable markup thats practiced throughout trade: Sell at no more than twice your buy price.
Unethical are:
1) Letting people pay through the nose for stuff you got on the cheap, this hinders the free flow of psychedelics and dupes the customer.
2) Misrepresenting drugs, weight and strength, for instance selling weak ass shrooms as bomb, or NBOMe as LSD, or 7/8oz of cactus powder as an ounce, either straight up or cut to make iot appear a full ounce. It dupes the customer, might endanger him or her and is simply dishonest practice condemned from biblical times onward:
I agree with the second one. People who knowingly misrepresent one drug as another should go to jail.
The first one I don't believe is unethical, but in many cases it's bad business. If you charge a crazy amount for something that can be obtained for a much lower price, eventually people will figure that out and decide you're an asshole who they don't want to deal with. If it's something illegal or quasi-legal you're selling, it gives people who are in a position to get you in legal trouble a potential reason to hate you, not a good combination. None of that means that you're doing anything unethical for asking $XYZ for whatever it is though. It's your property and you can ask whatever outrageous amount you like, and people are free to refuse that price if it's not to their liking.
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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
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mellowparty said: karma doesn't exist.
Ya it does.
How's living under that rock?
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19089329 - 11/05/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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FunkyBuddha said: So I've been hearing this around a lot and I think I agree, I wouldn't feel right profiting from something that people can use to enlighten themselves with, especially something as beautiful as shrooms.
There is a cost and legal risk involved in growing them, so IMO it's wrong to expect people to give them away for free. Also, I think saying you can "enlighten" yourself with shrooms is really pushing it. Judging from people on here, no two trippers experience the same enlightenment and everyone thinks that their revelations are right.
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What are people's thoughts on trading psychedelics however? Say trading shrooms for some herb? (Only with close friends mind you) I don't see an issue with it seeing as it is mutually beneficial and we're just distributing substances that we have excess of to those who don't have access to it.
How is that any different than trading shrooms for money? That is also mutually beneficial and you can use the money to grow more. Plus, if you really believed in karma, then wouldn't you deserve some kind of reward for taking the legal risk associated with selling them?
TL;DR -- sell or trade, as long as you trade fairly there's nothing wrong with either.
Edited by NetDiver (11/05/13 10:16 AM)
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: NetDiver]
#19089502 - 11/05/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wouldnt mind buying shrooms
can never find any where I live.... searched for a while...
its not bad karma, but giving them away for free sometimes to people who you can see might benefit from them is good karma
overcharging too much is bad karma though IMO price 1/8th at reasonable price.... dont sell half eights :-)
and if you want to share the love, make chocolates and sell them cheaply
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: lessismore]
#19089631 - 11/05/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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mio said: its not bad karma, but giving them away for free sometimes to people who you can see might benefit from them is good karma
Yeah giving stuff away for free can be a nice thing to do. There are no drug gods who get angered when "enlightenment-giving" drugs are exchanged for money though, just as there are no food gods who get angry every time someone buys a cabbage at the grocery store. (At least probably not.)
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19089724 - 11/05/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I give away hits of DMT for free here and there, if someone wants more than that then I trade them for things like LSD and whatnot.
Works out great, haven't had to actually ever pay for psychedelics because I always just make/grow them or trade for them.
Edited by A Day InThe Life (11/05/13 11:58 AM)
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: psi] 2
#19089744 - 11/05/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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psi said:
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mio said: its not bad karma, but giving them away for free sometimes to people who you can see might benefit from them is good karma
Yeah giving stuff away for free can be a nice thing to do. There are no drug gods who get angered when "enlightenment-giving" drugs are exchanged for money though, just as there are no food gods who get angry every time someone buys a cabbage at the grocery store. (At least probably not.)
Its a bullshit preconceived hippie notion.
I've given drugs for free in the past. Then I realized I'm being stupid so I started selling (of course in a hypothetical universe where its not illegal). Well I pretty much have to sell them cause I have no money.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: Soulidarity]
#19089783 - 11/05/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Soulidarity said:
dont sell drugs
fixed.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19089806 - 11/05/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think there is nothing wrong with profiting from psychedelics, because in a lot of areas access to them is so limited. The supply is so fickle that after a yearlong dry spell in which I could not get any, I gave up and started growing my own. I would much prefer paying someone else for them who is taking the risk of incarceration than growing them myself.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: Cubedude]
#19089971 - 11/05/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah now that I think about it I guess if it's appropriate for the situation then selling psychedelics (in a dimension that it is legal to do so) is fine but I think if your situation permits it, it's never a bad thing to sell them cheaply or give them away for free or other entheogens. So in my case, I'm not tight on money at the moment and it's not that big of a risk for me to grow because I live in the middle of nowhere however it's a long way into town for me to get some herb so I'll either give them away or trade for herb.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19090769 - 11/05/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If psychedelics became available for free on a mass scale -- whether or not this is practical -- it would certainly help with their acceptance and re-enforce the concept that they are beneficial substances.
The ayahuasca organization featured in Nat Geo's "Hallucinogens" episode says that they do their work for free.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: s240779]
#19090778 - 11/05/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psychedelics for the masses? Thats cute
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: s240779]
#19090792 - 11/05/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SOMEBODY has to sell the drugs, otherwise; consumers would be very, very disappointed.
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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
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mellowparty said: karma doesn't exist.
Ya it does.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19093098 - 11/05/13 10:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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LiquidGlass said:
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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
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mellowparty said: karma doesn't exist.
Ya it does.

well if you believe in karma, as in the hindu/eastern religion sense that came up with it, the explanation would be the kid live an evil life before being born into that one.
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Re: Bad karma to profit from psychedelics? [Re: SurReality]
#19093188 - 11/05/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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One of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
Drugs cost money. psychedelics are drugs. Therefore psychs=money.
If your rich then waste your money how you will. but for most of us "normal folk" we have to buy our drugs like everyone else.
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