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Smoked sub breakthrough Salvia combined with sub breakthrough DMT
    #19087830 - 11/04/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

SWIM just had a experience combining the two at low doses and wow. He started with the DMT, 2 slow small hits and felt it kickin in pretty strong. Then he took several small hits of Salvia Zone green out his pipe (the small hits were because he didn't have a sitter - he wasn't sure if the DMT would lower his already low Salvinorin tolerance and put him in danger of hurting himself. The DMT did lower his Salvinorin tolerance, but not enough to make small hits unmanageable he would guess it was 4/3rd times stronger). The experience got really intense and confusing without breaking through. The whole time he analyzed the 2 highs and saw them as seperate and one at the same time. Yes he could see the 2 effects and establish them as different effects but at the same time the synergy was so intense it was easier to forget he was on 2 substances rather then one at times. The salvia definitely increased the visuals of the DMT, he never found Salvia very visual by itself on sub breakthrough more of a feeling. He also felt very strongly that the DMT effects were better, that comes obvious for most, but feeling both at the same time he was able to really differentiate and see how much more beautiful and spiritual DMT was then Salvia. It was as if the Salvia put him in darkness so he could see the light of DMT as this beautiful sacred thing. Vice versa, the heightened awareness of DMT allowed him to see how dark and creepy the Salvia effects were. 

That's the best he can describe what he just went through, it's really hard to describe but was definitely it's own thing. He will do it again someday, he enjoyed the synergy to a degree even tho the trip was very confusing. SWIM recommends it, but wouldn't himself breakthrough on both at the same time out of fear of losing his mind and developing denationalization, HPPD, or something lol.

At times it just felt like a serious mind fuck, leaving him to confused to analyze anything.

Edit: He did it several more times, he found he really enjoy this combo. He also found he prefer smoking Salvia then DMT, as hes more afraid of breaking through on Salvia then DMT so he had less fear smoking DMT on Salvia then the other way around.

He feels like the gravity of Salvia is pulling SWIM into a "Sally Cave" and in the cave there's magic from the DMT. The body high is unbelievable like a orgasmic shiver that makes him want to clench every muscle in his being. The visuals were nuts, at one point he realized strongly that DMT is fluid and Salvia is jagged, together the DMT visuals are fluid and the Salvia basically cuts em into block segments where you see them all around you in multiple different perspectives.

Crazy stuff, very cool and unique. He found it fun to walk around his room. He found it very difficult and amusing how he walked like a robot and saw everything moving with his many perspectives. Each step was like stepping into another reality.


He'd recommend this combo strongly now after further experimentation. He would never try quid and ayahuasca, the effects are too intense for that duration of action. It's something he'd want to step in and out of not stay in for hours. Fuck that.


Edited by Lyghtsout (11/04/13 11:25 PM)


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