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m00ncalf
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Strange marijuana experience...
#19087240 - 11/04/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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For a while now I've noticed that marijuana often triggers anxiety in me, particularly in new social situations. Ever since a particularly challenging psychedelic trip I had, I've noticed some anxiety in general and weed tends to bring that out of me. It's something that has improved over time but I just recently had a pretty interesting experience regarding this.
I don't know how anxiety surfaces for any of you if you've experienced it, but it's an actively physiological feeling. On occasion if it's strong enough I'll get the shivers... not unlike actually being really cold (teeth chattering and whatnot). So I was sitting in a little smoke circle with some new friends and I started feeling this. It was late so I figured I would take this opportunity to go to bed. The anxiety wouldn't go away, so I put on some music and try to breathe through it. I was shivering and didn't feel very comfortable mentally -- the music all sounded strangely dissonant. It felt like my subconscious fears of that trip were being tugged at.
But that's not the interesting part. What's fascinating is how I was able to get comfortable again and fall asleep. Changing position, sitting up, breath work, positive thinking... none of it was really working. At this point my whole body is shivering and I felt like I was out of options. I was tired and didn't want to fight it anymore. Fuck it, I give up. I just let myself shiver. It was really strange... I laying there in bed, probably looked like I was seizing or something, teeth chattering and being all twitchy, but the anxiety just fell away. The music sounded amazing again and I broke out into a bit of laughter (all the while still shaking like crazy). It took a while for my body to catch up. I probably went through several full tracks on my iPod before the shivering subsided, but afterwards I felt calm and relaxed.
I have some ideas about this and how it connects to "letting go", but I think I'll make a separate thread on that for sake of brevity.
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zZZz
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Re: Strange marijuana experience... [Re: m00ncalf]
#19087352 - 11/04/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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ah yes, the anxiety. i am still not over it. but yes you are right, it's all about letting go. kinda like when you hold your breath and you don't notice and you start twitching. anxiety is just something which we hold on to.
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Sheekle
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Re: Strange marijuana experience... [Re: zZZz]
#19087394 - 11/04/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dats y i d0nt sm0ke wEEd NEmore lol
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misterjingo
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Re: Strange marijuana experience... [Re: Sheekle]
#19088453 - 11/05/13 02:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You gave into the anxious feelings rather than fight them, this removed their purchase and let them slip away - akin to meditation, you observe the distraction and then let it go.
I've found weed to be a fantastic method of removing unresolved anxiety. I don't think the weed is the anxiety generator, more that it brings unresolved anxieties to the conscious mind. They are then amplified by the weed mind space. You can either give them energy or let them go (this might take time, but each toking session, the anxiety gets less and less.)
At times when I felt anxiety while high, I'd lie down and let it wash over me. Do a mini tactile based meditation, and release it. I haven't felt anxiety on weed for quite some time, and recently, I've been getting more stoned than I've ever been.
Edited by misterjingo (11/05/13 02:17 AM)
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GreySatyr
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Re: Strange marijuana experience... [Re: misterjingo]
#19089639 - 11/05/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just stop smoking it for a while?
It only gives me anxiety in social situations and so I don't smoke it socially, everyone knows that I DON'T smoke except my dealer. ;P
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Eclipse3130
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Re: Strange marijuana experience... [Re: GreySatyr]
#19089994 - 11/05/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Try smoking a CBD strain to relieve anxiety..
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Re: Strange marijuana experience... [Re: Eclipse3130]
#19090042 - 11/05/13 01:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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that is what we call a small anxiety attack. Weed is known to do this, you probably need more of indica based strains. I've noticed if that I smoke alone (like at night before bed) that I can somewhat get lost in thoughts, which never happens if I'm with friends smoking. ?!? You really got to build a tolerance especially with some strong dank medical buds.
I've had my share of weed paranoia.. one time it was really bad when I randomly had to get up and talk in front of the class.. I can blaze and do anything but public speaking is not one of em. lol
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BWza
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Re: Strange marijuana experience... [Re: Gorlax]
#19090074 - 11/05/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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it truly helps me to focus a lot more. i have more of an interest in the things that teach us rather than just sitting and watching family guy. im more ilkely to cut on through the wormhole or ancient aliens or something like that. but when im sober or not smoking pot i tend to rely more on others for my happiness, that needing to do something with somebody type of feeling. pot makes me content and hungry.
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zZZz
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Re: Strange marijuana experience... [Re: Gorlax]
#19090092 - 11/05/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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both indica and sativas and whatever other strains can all cause anxiety ime. anxiety is based almost entirely on the individual imho.
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MinnesnowtaNice
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Re: Strange marijuana experience... [Re: BWza]
#19090102 - 11/05/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Smoker of 5 years here, everyday and I've never felt anxiety from smoking weed. Ever. Could just be me but honestly, weed ain't shit compared to any other substance.
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Re: Strange marijuana experience... [Re: Sheekle]
#19090260 - 11/05/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: Dats y i d0nt sm0ke wEEd NEmore lol
Ditto
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GreySatyr
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MinnesnowtaNice said: Smoker of 5 years here, everyday and I've never felt anxiety from smoking weed. Ever. Could just be me but honestly, weed ain't shit compared to any other substance.
Weed is the only drug that gives me anxiety.
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MinnesnowtaNice
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Re: Strange marijuana experience... [Re: GreySatyr]
#19094429 - 11/06/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not even sure I know what anxiety feels like lol
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GreySatyr
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m00ncalf
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Re: Strange marijuana experience... [Re: misterjingo]
#19094885 - 11/06/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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misterjingo said: I've found weed to be a fantastic method of removing unresolved anxiety. I don't think the weed is the anxiety generator, more that it brings unresolved anxieties to the conscious mind.
I've been curious of the efficacy of weed to be therapeutic and relieve anxiety in this way. Psychedelics, in much the same way, don't really cause anxiety but rather bring it to the surface where it can be dealt with. It's just that with weed it's more easily swept under the rug. You hear about weed causing anxiety on here more than psychedelics but I think that's more from the fact that we don't recognize it as the introspective tool it is. If people took mushrooms the way they smoked weed (often involving people you barely know), there would be freak outs abound.
On that note, has anyone tried going into a strong marijuana experience the way one approaches psychedelics? I could imagine a good pot brownie in a dark room alone to be deep ride.
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MinnesnowtaNice
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Re: Strange marijuana experience... [Re: m00ncalf]
#19094912 - 11/06/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The reason weed gives people anxiety is the fear of getting arrested or people finding out you do it, because of the way people see it. Dirty lazy stupid stoner.
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zZZz
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MinnesnowtaNice said: I'm not even sure I know what anxiety feels like lol
I have reported you to the authorities. Please check your private message box for further details. Mods you can close this thread now.
that;s how it feels
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MinnesnowtaNice
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Re: Strange marijuana experience... [Re: zZZz]
#19094980 - 11/06/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zZZz said:
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MinnesnowtaNice said: I'm not even sure I know what anxiety feels like lol
I have reported you to the authorities. Please check your private message box for further details. Mods you can close this thread now.
Except I know the rules and am aware that I haven't broken any of them?
that;s how it feels 
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GreySatyr
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MinnesnowtaNice said: The reason weed gives people anxiety is the fear of getting arrested or people finding out you do it, because of the way people see it. Dirty lazy stupid stoner.
Bull shit. I always rode around smoking weed and being wild as fuck red eyes, smellin like pounds and not giving a damn in general and I never got anxiety over that. I got anxiety from sitting around a circle and talking to people that I don't know.
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theRAPeutic
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Re: Strange marijuana experience... [Re: GreySatyr]
#19095094 - 11/06/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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GreyMorph said:
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MinnesnowtaNice said: The reason weed gives people anxiety is the fear of getting arrested or people finding out you do it, because of the way people see it. Dirty lazy stupid stoner.
Bull shit. I always rode around smoking weed and being wild as fuck red eyes, smellin like pounds and not giving a damn in general and I never got anxiety over that. I got anxiety from sitting around a circle and talking to people that I don't know.
Agree 100%, I smoke blunts n joints all the time in the car, but the latter gives me anxiety when I'm high.
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