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NiNJa420
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Okay so once my rye spawn bag is fully colonized I'm thinking I'll just throw it in a clear Tupperware and mix in jiffy and then an inch casing layer on the top and put it in my fc with my cubes will that be fine?
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Drunk3n Duck
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Re: first try at pans :D [Re: NiNJa420]
#19093206 - 11/05/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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u dont mix it with jiffy mix... u mix jiffy mix and verm to add as a casing layer. an inch casing layer is way to deep u want something more like a 1/4 inch at max i would say. if u haven't grown cubes in bulk then u might wanna wait on pans and plz stop trying to thread jack me. thanks
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OP I would go ahead a case that tray now and fruit it a few days later.
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NiNJa420
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Sorry bro not trying to thread jack.. didnt know that was a thing. I'm just new to this and I'm kinda goin all in. Got 16 cubes started half Chilean half malaysian and then the rye spawn of pan and I'm hoping to be successful, but I'll step down and let you do your thing
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tripluv
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Re: first try at pans :D [Re: NiNJa420]
#19095156 - 11/06/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ninja, just start your own thread for peeps to follow
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Drunk3n Duck
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Re: first try at pans :D [Re: tripluv]
#19095419 - 11/06/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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ok so should i mix verm and miracle grow potting mix or just straight verm? if using straight verm should i just throw it on a sheet pan and throw it in the oven for an hour(what ive done in past for rolling cakes)?
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36fuckin5
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Who the hell told you to use potting mix?
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MUSH HEAD420
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You can nuke it, but that isn't very controlled.
But I can't see that mattering because there is no mold fighting microbes in verm like there is in horse poo. so pasteurization is unnecessary.
Just do not keep it in too long.
Edited by MUSH HEAD420 (11/06/13 01:52 PM)
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Quote:
MUSH HEAD420 said: You can nuke it, but that isn't very controlled.
Microwave ovens neither sterilize or pasteurize.
They are useless in this hobby, unless you get hungry......
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MUSH HEAD420
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Re: first try at pans :D [Re: PussyFart]
#19095515 - 11/06/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess use your pressure cooker then
I guess that is the only thing that will make sure you do not have to deal with mold spores in your verm.
I'm sure a microwave is good for bacteria though, above poster is right though, do not nuke.
Edited by MUSH HEAD420 (11/06/13 01:58 PM)
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36fuckin5
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For your casing layer, either use pure verm at field capacity, 50/50+ or Jiffy Mix.
If you do 50/50+, it's 1:1 verm:sphagnum peat moss plus a little lime and gypsum, or at the very least lime. Do not use peat moss without lime. It's way too acidic and will contam.
Jiffy Mix is the seed starter mix you can buy anywhere.
Pure verm works if it's all you have.
Whatever you use, it HAS to be pasteurized. Not sterilized. And definitely don't just hydrate it and use it, even pure verm. The oven isn't a proper way to pasteurize. Check out RR's video or FrankHorrigan's pasteurization writeup.
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MUSH HEAD420
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Re: first try at pans :D [Re: 36fuckin5]
#19095633 - 11/06/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why would you pasteurize verm vs sterilized?
I can see horse poo because it has useful microbes, and I have seen coir pasteurized with success. But seems pointless to not sterilize verm to me.
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Re: first try at pans :D *DELETED* [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
#19095648 - 11/06/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Post deleted by RubestoadReason for deletion: Didn't read enough above
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MUSH HEAD420
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Re: first try at pans :D [Re: Rubestoad]
#19095654 - 11/06/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rubestoad said: Pasturizing leaves some beneficial bacteria that stops mold spores from getting ahold of it. Or something like that
That's only true with horse poo?
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36fuckin5
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Because it leaves beneficial bacteria. That's not only true with horse poo. Where do you think those bacteria come from in the first place? They don't spontaneously come to life only in manure. They're spread through the air, which your verm has touched.
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MUSH HEAD420
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Re: first try at pans :D [Re: 36fuckin5]
#19095694 - 11/06/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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no bacteria or virus can live on dry surfaces with a humidity of less than 10 percent.
Spores can.
Edited by MUSH HEAD420 (11/06/13 02:35 PM)
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36fuckin5
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So can endospores.
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Re: first try at pans :D [Re: 36fuckin5]
#19095864 - 11/06/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea that's right, botulism spores ect.
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36fuckin5
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Hence why we pasteurize. Spores can't germinate on a pasteurized substrate. At least not most spores, and not easily. They germinate very easily on a sterilized substrate.
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Re: first try at pans :D [Re: 36fuckin5]
#19095924 - 11/06/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said: Who the hell told you to use potting mix?
no one which is why i asked in regards to it be a substitute for jiffy mix. and when i said to put the verm in the oven it was to sterilize it i wasnt aware that straight verm should be pasteurized. thanks! so i will hydrate it to field capacity and pasteurize it which works cuz i am about to pasteurize some coir anyways
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