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Re: Why non-materialists are cuckoo [Re: Thecrimson]
    #19230859 - 12/05/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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So OP, how do you explain Quantum physics?




You want me to explain the most complex subject in human history, that people study for a decade or more, into a one-liner?


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Re: Why non-materialists are cuckoo [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19230871 - 12/05/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Did you not read the rest of my post?


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Re: Why non-materialists are cuckoo [Re: Thecrimson]
    #19231049 - 12/05/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yes.

See how simple it is to answer a yes or no question?


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Re: Why non-materialists are cuckoo [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19231111 - 12/05/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Yes.

See how simple it is to answer a yes or no question?




And so you see particles popping in and our of existence as a measurable material event? Spacetime exists but good luck grabbing a handful of it. Materialism is a very shallow scope of reality.

Watch some of this, not claiming it as fact or proof, but it raises points


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Re: Why non-materialists are cuckoo [Re: Thecrimson]
    #19233728 - 12/05/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

OrgoneConclusion:  I'd like to gain some clarity on your argument and whether it is valid (i.e. whether your conclusion actually follows your premises)

1) How do you define material?

2) You claim: "If the non-materialist can actually detect another realm then it is obviously interacting with this one - hence it is material."

I claim: "If the materialist can actually detect another [material] realm, then it is obviously interacting with this [immaterial] one - hence it is immaterial."

Do our claims differ?  Is one any better supported than the other?


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Re: Why non-materialists are cuckoo [Re: hmmn]
    #19235124 - 12/06/13 04:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hear me out, I have suffered extreme concussions throughout my life, mainly on the left side of my brain (the male side) which is co dependent on the right side of my brain to not understand each other but create two different ways to look at things, one to process information, and the female side, (right) to focus on creativity and spontaneous decision making. Well through my brain injuries on the left side of my brain, I have started seeing things that were unexplainable to the human eye, the world wasn't atoms any more. There was no materials, instead everything became sounds, sounds which became feelings. feelings which became the setting for life, and life without feelings is not life, our instincts wouldn't be able to work, our body's wouldn't understand what's happening, words, and materials are only existent because we have let them become existent, and if we didn't have words to explain that objects could be "labeled" and described, what would we actually see the world as?


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Close your eyes, see the little colored dots? now open your eyes,
and life just became a void, you have shifted into a new reality, by reading this. Life has become nothing, nothing more then what you believe reality and your senses make it. And what you have always believed reality to be, is nothing more than what reality was, but not anymore. Because reality doesn't exist anymore. Your welcome.


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