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beforeIgetold
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This is mold right?
#19085434 - 11/04/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes... I'm one of those I just got my kit and as soon as I open the box I see this:

Am I right in assuming that this is mold and should be tossed right away?
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So it came with the spores already in the container? I see parts that look iffy but some of it looks like its fine...I'm having a difficult time making my mind up on this one.
Did you notice any bad smell?
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Re: This is mold right? [Re: MHbound]
#19085509 - 11/04/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I gotta admit I didn't dare open it yet... Looked way different than the first container I got.
Yes, it's one of those "water and wait" kind of kits.
The first one I tried there was a nice clear separation between the perlite and the mycelium and none of that white stuff. That's why I started doubting the health of this package.
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After a second look I'm going to say yes it's bad. I wouldn't open it, some of it looks pretty nasty, has to be some real aggressive stuff to do that in just a few days.
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Re: This is mold right? [Re: MHbound]
#19085536 - 11/04/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks... I'll toss it straight away.
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beforeIgetold
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Just want complete confirmation.... could it be mycelium that is longing for food and air?
In the 2nd image, it isn't apparent, but the dark spots are actually blue greenish.
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I don't see anything in the second pic. Give it some time and if the mycelium on top starts turning green and powdery toss it.
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Re: This is mold right? [Re: Kizzle]
#19093533 - 11/06/13 12:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Will do, thanks mate!
I took off the white part on the top (actually it was stuck to the lid) and set it in the grow bag, so let's see what turns out.
I also took a chance and set the new bag near the first kit (like 15 cm apart). If this indeed is a kind of mold, is there a risk of me contaminating the other bag simply by placing them near eachother?
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Update...
The following photos I took today a week later... The sides of the casing aren't really taht much different from before, but I think the new photos are better at showing what it's going on.
The top has gotten a few more white blotches here and there. Are these some form of contamination or is it just the early stages of fruiting?





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My real concern is about those seemingly blackish grains. But if they look rather bluish you should be ok. Other than that, it looks ready to go into the fruiting chamber. It's fully colonized, so give it pinning conditions.
My advice, just flush it once. Then break apart the whole substrate in two and inspect the interior. If you see no contams keep the mushrooms, place the two pieces back inside and try flushing it again. If you spot any contams, dump the whole thing.
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Re: This is mold right? [Re: MAIA]
#19134153 - 11/14/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I see what you mean and in that way the photos are not completely accurate... The black is not grains but merely where there are holes in the substrate where the light cant get in so it appears black, I just double check... No black grains anywhere.
So what you are saying is that the white on the top is actually just the myc preparing to fruit? That would be fantastic news. It does look a little fluffy like the myc I had on my first bag grow.
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beforeIgetold said: So what you are saying is that the white on the top is actually just the myc preparing to fruit? That would be fantastic news.
Yes, that's what I'm saying. Just don't spray the top layer directly. Manage to get your RH, temp and fanning cycles numbers by the book. Good luck !
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Re: This is mold right? [Re: MAIA]
#19152790 - 11/18/13 03:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Based on this small discussion I went and made a small two cake SGFC and moved the location into our bathroom because we have a steady temp of 23-24C in there...
The result is that I harvested the first healthy cubes this morning. The growth is quite sporadic as you could expect from a kit but it's there. Even got some fun mutants amongst the normal ones.
So I'm pretty content right now.
Anyways, thought it would be nice for others who might have the same question to get sort of an answer to their worries. From what I can see, the above was nothing more than myc getting ready (like MAIA confirmed), and moving the cakes from the little plastic boxes that the kit comes in, over to a more friendly environment probably helped a bit. It certainly makes it easier to harvest the side growth.
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I think what kind of threw people off in the first pic was the fuzzy rhizomorphs pressing against the lid. The lid is so clear you can barely notice it's there so it just looked odd. Glad it turned out alright.
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That's good news. Just one thing about the bathroom. Try to keep it really really clean. Thanks to its conditions, it can harbour many contaminants.
You should read about building a simple fruiting chamber (FC). There are many different, easy to make and cheap to build models. Just search the faq's and you'll find it. That would give you some more options as where to place the boxes. A homemade FC usually is a better choice if you compare it to the ones that come with some kits.
Good luck !
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Re: This is mold right? [Re: MAIA]
#19158098 - 11/19/13 02:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah… I went and bought one of those plastic storage boxes with click lids.
Then I Cilit Banged and boiled the tub and the tiles to finish off any contaminants.
I drilled some holes in the box but I learn the hard way now that I need to be more thorough in regards to amount of holes and placement. So I'm getting some fuzzy feet… hopefully nothing I can't handle tonight when I get back home and finish drilling holes.
Since the cakes are premade including perlite, I take it that i don't need to fill the bottom of the storage box with perlite as well? I mean… just let it sit as is?
Anyways, it's a step up from the original kit and so far seems that more rewarding in terms of fruiting. Also got some funky mutants hehe
Timing couldn't be better….my dehydrator will be arriving today
Edited by beforeIgetold (11/19/13 02:43 AM)
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Hey again…
Just thought I'd share what the grow kit is looking like by now… I'm pretty pleased considering that this is a pre-made kit. Will pick off the largest ones now and let a few of smaller ones grow a little more tonight and pick them in the morning.
Thanks for helping out…!
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It's looking good !
Regarding your question. As long as you hit the correct Rh params you should be ok. If it drops bellow acceptable levels try buying some perlite and put it inside a cup with water, then place the cup inside the terrarium. Add more cups with perlite + water until you get the desired Rh.
My two cents ...
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