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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: i like cow poo]
    #19085287 - 11/04/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I like the idea of increasing vasectomy rates. There has to be a way to encourage this through monetary means.




Don't be a sexist now, let us find incentives for dumb whores to get sterilized too


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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: Simplicitry]
    #19085301 - 11/04/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Then it's just a tuition based school run by people with no incentive to compete or do any better.

Pretty much like the postal service.


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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: zappaisgod] * 2
    #19085303 - 11/04/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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And the tax code should reflect.  No more allowing "exceptions" for dependents.  Instead, there should be surcharges on parents' 1040 for further burdening our educational and healthcare systems.  We can fix any population shrinkage problems by incentivizing immigration, both legal and illegal, which expands the tax base and creates a net positive benefit on the economy and employment.




I think we need a clean tax code that does not reward reproduction or marriage.  I think we need to have a government that shoots border jumpers on sight.  They are a net drain on the economy and are taking your job away.




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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: Smokey420]
    #19085313 - 11/04/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What an incredibly stupid thing to say.  Are you saying that everyone except native americans are "border jumpers?"

I'm confident that Zappa was born here.


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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: Enlil]
    #19085323 - 11/04/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No, I was just making a joke. Sarcasm button needed?

But really, if you think we should shoot people who are seeking a better life in this country, then you're a shrill bigot fascist who deserves nothing but a taste of your own medicine.


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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: Simplicitry]
    #19085330 - 11/04/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I am of the opinion that you shouldn't receive a tax break for having a child. I also believe that you should only be taxed for public schools if you have children that are using that system. Those without children & those who send their children to private school should be exempt




Schools are underfunded enough as it is.  Everybody in society benefits from a robust public education system.


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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: Smokey420]
    #19085338 - 11/04/13 01:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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No, I was just making a joke. Sarcasm button needed?

But really, if you think we should shoot people who are seeking a better life in this country, then you're a shrill bigot fascist who deserves nothing but a taste of your own medicine.



There is a legal way to immigrate to this country.

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Schools are underfunded enough as it is. 



If anything, public education is overfunded.  It needs to be run more efficiently.  Throwing more money at it has proven to be ineffective at improving education.


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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: Enlil]
    #19085358 - 11/04/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That could very well be true, but let's get the efficiency and proficiency up to standards before we start cutting budgets.  I mean, you've got inner-city teachers buying their own supplies for class.  This is ridiculous.  When you have teachers making $20-$25k a year to be a glorified baby sitter because they're teaching to have their students pass the next standardized test, of course issues are going to arise.


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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: Enlil]
    #19085366 - 11/04/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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No, I was just making a joke. Sarcasm button needed?

But really, if you think we should shoot people who are seeking a better life in this country, then you're a shrill bigot fascist who deserves nothing but a taste of your own medicine.



There is a legal way to immigrate to this country.




This reply has nothing to do with my statement. If you think people should be shot for crossing the border, you're a shrill, bigot, fascist.


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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19085406 - 11/04/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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That could very well be true, but let's get the efficiency and proficiency up to standards before we start cutting budgets.  I mean, you've got inner-city teachers buying their own supplies for class.  This is ridiculous.  When you have teachers making $20-$25k a year to be a glorified baby sitter because they're teaching to have their students pass the next standardized test, of course issues are going to arise.



I disagree.  Throwing more money at it will simply increase the amount of waste.  It won't raise the standards.  Only by biting the bullet and making drastic changes can the system be fixed.  I would implement a voucher system allowing private schools to compete for the same tax dollars.

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This reply has nothing to do with my statement. If you think people should be shot for crossing the boarder, you're a shrill, bigot, fascist.



I'm all for shooting people.  I think people should be shot if they can't spell border.


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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: Enlil]
    #19085411 - 11/04/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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No, I was just making a joke. Sarcasm button needed?

But really, if you think we should shoot people who are seeking a better life in this country, then you're a shrill bigot fascist who deserves nothing but a taste of your own medicine.



There is a legal way to immigrate to this country.




And it is technically possible for me to build my own car.

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Then you clearly don't understand the meaning of the word "goods."

I suggest you take a remedial English class before you post on these fora again.




oh hai its teh most recognzble n fact checked site on teh webs, providing a def of goods that are clearly reconcilable of sndrkpa's commentz


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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #19085421 - 11/04/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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And it is technically possible for me to build my own car.





Not only possible, but fun and rewarding as well.  I've done it.


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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: Enlil]
    #19085432 - 11/04/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I would be willing to bet that a good 30-40% of "Americans" born in this county wouldn't be able to pass the requirements for legal immigration.


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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: Enlil]
    #19085450 - 11/04/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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And it is technically possible for me to build my own car.





Not only possible, but fun and rewarding as well.  I've done it.




Welcome to America then!


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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: Smokey420]
    #19085459 - 11/04/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I would be willing to bet that a good 30-40% of "Americans" born in this county wouldn't be able to pass the requirements for legal immigration.




So what? 

Do you think every person should be allowed to enter and stay the in US?


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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #19085477 - 11/04/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I would be willing to bet that a good 30-40% of "Americans" born in this county wouldn't be able to pass the requirements for legal immigration.



So?

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Welcome to America then!



I was born here...but thanks.


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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: Enlil]
    #19085482 - 11/04/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: qman]
    #19085492 - 11/04/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I would be willing to bet that a good 30-40% of "Americans" born in this county wouldn't be able to pass the requirements for legal immigration.




So what? 

Do you think every person should be allowed to enter and stay the in US?




If someone wants to come to this country, who am I to say they shouldn't?
Being born in a cretin place on the planet doesn't make you more important or deserving.


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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: Smokey420]
    #19085502 - 11/04/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think any ideas of nationality are inherently wrong. Call me crazy. :shrug:


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Re: Children are luxury goods [Re: Enlil]
    #19085506 - 11/04/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Then it's just a tuition based school run by people with no incentive to compete or do any better.

Pretty much like the postal service.




They would have to compete with private institutions if people got the tax exemption for choosing a private school
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Mush4Brains said:
That could very well be true, but let's get the efficiency and proficiency up to standards before we start cutting budgets.  I mean, you've got inner-city teachers buying their own supplies for class.  This is ridiculous.  When you have teachers making $20-$25k a year to be a glorified baby sitter because they're teaching to have their students pass the next standardized test, of course issues are going to arise.



I disagree.  Throwing more money at it will simply increase the amount of waste.  It won't raise the standards.  Only by biting the bullet and making drastic changes can the system be fixed.  I would implement a voucher system allowing private schools to compete for the same tax dollars.

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This reply has nothing to do with my statement. If you think people should be shot for crossing the boarder, you're a shrill, bigot, fascist.



I'm all for shooting people.  I think people should be shot if they can't spell border.




Vouchers would be my next choice, but I still prefer what I said above


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