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OfflineSuprastar
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CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help!
    #19084185 - 11/04/13 04:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hi guys,

Really could do with your help/advice. Im new to mushrooms (and 'classified' drugs in general for that matter).

Have attempted to trip 3 times over the last 2 months now, each time 2 weeks apart- each time unsuccessfully with either no affects or just feeling a bit unwell. This post is primarily about my last attempt. Here's some facts/history

Background
I weigh about 80kg
Gave up drinking alcohol ten years ago
Zero experience of drugs other then alcohol.
In good health. Not on any medication. Rarely even take painkillers for headaches etc.

Mushroom/psylosibin experience
Have attempted twice before this last attempt

1. 15g wet of philosophers stone. (Truffle): felt a bit of nausea and a bit woozy after 2 hrs. But that's it, no other affects and no trip. No trip

2. Atlantic truffles 15g wet: (apparently stronger then the above!)  consumed in a tea. No affect at all- apart from a strong sense of disappointment..

3. Golden teacher mushrooms as described bellow. (Grown myself)

Dosage

T-0hrs:    22g fresh (in tea with a little lemon juice and ginger)
T+0.75:    5g fresh chewed up and swallowed
T+1.5:      5g fresh + 0.5grams dry both in tea
T+2.25:    meal (lasagnea) + 3g Fresh, + my remaining 1.5g dry in a small amount if orange juice.

Total over 2.25 hours = 36g fresh + 2g dry.

I kept consuming more as I was feeling no affects after the time periods described and I was determined to trip.

'Trip' summary.

T+0 to T+3hrs - absolutely nothing.
T+3 to T+3.5 - some sense of coming up. Flushes of numbness/tingling in my head/face arms.
T+3.5 T+5 - felt woozy, low strength, mild sense of being stoned/drunk (I guess?) but not pleasant at all. Bodily discomfort - almost felt like having drunk a little to much (from what I remember of drinking) Not pleasant - similar thoughts to "i feel rubbish im never drinking again.." Type of scenario. Almost felt like a mild case of food poisoning or fever without the temp fluctuations. zero sensory, mental or perception changes.

T+6 : completely back to normal apart from feeling a bit lazy.

All in all my latest trip attempt was disappointing but also very confusing.  From all I've read and researched that amount of fresh picked GTs should have really have had an impact on someone like me who has limited/no experience. I left it 2 weeks since the last truffle attempt so shouldn't have allowed any tolerance issues.

Each time I have attempted a trip I have fasted for 4-6 hours. I have however drank water/orange juice (but not excessive amounts)

So my question is what the heck is going on? Do some people naturally have a (very) high tolerance?!

If that's the case (or even possible!) I'm still confused as the last attempt did have some affects. Just not in a timeframe that makes sense (in relation to my initial high dose) and not the type of affect I would expect?

It just made me feel very woozy, limbs felt heavy and warmish, I felt quite sick for a while (1hr or so) before it passed. No visuals, pleasant sensations, or affects to my thought processes. I even checked my eyes for dilation at the peak of the 'experience' and saw nothing unusual. I took enough for a level 3-4 trip but can't really even relate that much to the level 1 trip descriptions.

I'm not sure where to go from here. If I have a tolerance I could simply increase the dose over time but I'm concerned that will just make the sick/unpleasant feeling stronger rather then give me a trip.

Your views and experience would be very appreciated.


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: Suprastar]
    #19084193 - 11/04/13 05:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Eat more, you might have a high tolerance for psilocybin?

Maybe your mushrooms are lacking in potency, either way I'd increase dose to 5 grams.


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: Sanpedrox]
    #19084257 - 11/04/13 06:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

How long should I leave it before another attempt? Would a week be enough you think. Have been waiting 2 weeks so far.


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: Suprastar]
    #19084266 - 11/04/13 06:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

With regard to potency, I also tried the truffles which were from a different supplier to the grow kit.


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: Suprastar]
    #19084289 - 11/04/13 06:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

truffles unless grown yourself are usually very low in potency from what I have read and experienced.

2 weeks is enough down time to wait in between trips. what do you mean you left the mushrooms for two weeks? you didn't do them? or you picked them then left them for two weeks?

If you picked them then waiter two weeks how did you store them?

the last attempt should have really sent you out there..


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: acapuchinu]
    #19084296 - 11/04/13 06:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think the whole resting between trips is a bit hearsay.

IMO I'd give it a week and try again, you probably just have some low potency shrooms step up the dose for next time. Good luck :mushroom2:


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: Sanpedrox]
    #19084464 - 11/04/13 08:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry I should have been clear, I waited two weeks between attempts 1 2 and 3. However attempts 1 and 3 where psylosibin truffles not mushrooms. Only the last was a mushroom attempt. The mushrooms were freshly picked (same day). Apart from 2 grams of dryed which were only a few days old.


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: Suprastar]
    #19084520 - 11/04/13 08:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

has anyone else sampled your mushrooms?

some people have a naturally high tolerance, I have a friend that can go gram for gram with me and end up going home a few hors later because he couldn't trip.


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: bishlap]
    #19084599 - 11/04/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I would have someone check your shrooms before assuming its due to high tolerance and taking an epic dose that you aren't ready for.

Better safe than sorry!
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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19084728 - 11/04/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not tripping is due to

1) tolerance... Doesn't sound like your problem
2) other drugs interfering... Legal or illegal
3) full stomach... Slow digestion so slow uptake
4) weak mushrooms
5) bad or no scales... Poor judge of mass
6) low dose
7) poor set and setting... Can't let go
8) vomiting
9) natural tolerance

Are you taking any drugs, legal or illegal? None??? 
How about fasting? Fasting 4-6 hrs before eating the mushrooms?
How are you eating them?

Note that after an hour, taking more mushrooms doesn't do much. You should pick a dose... Doses  with that... If you want more, wait a week and try with more... So your doing over 2.5 hrs was poor dosing. It's isnt additive like that... But if you really ate 22 gm fresh cubes, should have tripped.

Truffles are mushrooms ... So to speak. But are weak.

My advice... Wait 2 weeks, fast 6 hrs, eat 3 gm dry weight of cubes
Relax and see what happens

It's very possible your cubes are just weak...


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: HarryL]
    #19084758 - 11/04/13 10:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like either a low dose, you are on pharmaceutical medications, or you got weak shrooms/stones. Meds will derail a trip so if you take meds that's why.. If not you're gonna need to up your dose quite a bit.


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #19085018 - 11/04/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

of seems you either got really weak shrooms or have a natural high ass tolerance. like other people mentioned if you have any friends that can test the potency try that.


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: HarryL]
    #19085064 - 11/04/13 11:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not on any drugs medicated or othewise. Never tried any other illegal drug at all.
Each time have been fasting for between 4 to 6 hours only been drinking water or orange juice before hand.
Have got a proper set of scales. 1/10 g
Setting has allways just been at home by myself. Very relaxed

Could be week shrooms but that doesn't explain the stones. The could also be weak I guess by we're from a different supplier and two different types.

No vomiting on any occasion.

With regard to the phasing. Take your point.

Thanks for the response. All the feedback from everyone is very much appreciated.


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: Suprastar]
    #19085082 - 11/04/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Suprastar said:
Not on any drugs medicated or othewise. Never tried any other illegal drug at all.
Each time have been fasting for between 4 to 6 hours only been drinking water or orange juice before hand.
Have got a proper set of scales. 1/10 g
Setting has allways just been at home by myself. Very relaxed

Could be week shrooms but that doesn't explain the stones. The could also be weak I guess by we're from a different supplier and two different types.

No vomiting on any occasion.

With regard to the phasing. Take your point.

Thanks for the response. All the feedback from everyone is very much appreciated.





You're so determined and yet you still haven't jumped in feet first dose wise. Go and get yourself 5grams of dry cubes or 30grams of truffles and go to town. The doses you mentioned are like level 1-2 trips for average people, and threshold dose for anyone with even a slight natural tolerance.

My diagnosis is.....Eat more and you'll be set :woooaaahhh:


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: funkerdslr]
    #19085280 - 11/04/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

How many prescription drugs you on? Be honest.


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #19085317 - 11/04/13 01:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well since you aren't on drugs you are taking to small a dose, I wont notice much under 2.5 grams myself for cubes. Go ahead and take a bigger dose next tie you try and not slightly bigger, but a decent amount


Edited by psilocybinjunkie (11/04/13 01:10 PM)


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #19085730 - 11/04/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yknow this is kinda rare, but my buddies wife has a ridiculously strong liver.  It would always take double everybody else's dose for her to get off.
I gave her syian rue seed and it took care of all of that.


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19085731 - 11/04/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

his last attempt was 36g wet and 2.5g dry of golden teachers. even over a 2.5 hour period that should have done something..


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: Suprastar]
    #19085801 - 11/04/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Suprastar said:
Hi guys,

Really could do with your help/advice. ...
I'm not sure where to go from here. If I have a tolerance I could simply increase the dose over time but I'm concerned that will just make the sick/unpleasant feeling stronger rather then give me a trip.

Your views and experience would be very appreciated.




You're dosing wrong - this is most likely too little and adding to it after an hour, when tolerance has already kicked in - not to mention eating food! - isn't gonna work.

Take your HG, wait a couple weeks, consume around 50g fresh (I recommend tea highly - see my sig) and see what happens. :thumbup:

:peace:PS

PS and do it on an empty stomach - you won't want to eat if you're really tripping. :mushroom2:


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Re: CANT TRIP!!! - Very confused. Please help! [Re: HarryL]
    #19085880 - 11/04/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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acapuchinu said:
truffles unless grown yourself are usually very low in potency from what I have read and experienced.




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HarryL said:Truffles are mushrooms ... So to speak. But are weak.




not sure where this belief comes from...?

by weight fresh truffles are roughly twice as potent as dried mushrooms.


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