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OfflineNotTheDevil
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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: SurReality]
    #19083912 - 11/04/13 01:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
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Shroomism said:
Take a bottle of aspirin and you'll die too. 



Doubt it.




No. You will. There's a reason it says don't exceed 6 pills in 24 hours or whatever on the bottle. Acetaminophen will cause acute liver failure at high doses.

My point was just because a whole lot of one substance can kill you, doesn't mean a normal dose is necessarily very harmful.




i never said a normal dose was harmful. quite the contrary actually, i'm actually saying its relatively safe and non addictive in comparison to tobacco comparing both in standard doses.

i was just pointing out that saying its not dangerous is false. aspirin can kill you too with a relatively low doses, i would not say aspirin is not dangerous either.



Wait a minute, thats exactly what I was saying too :foreheadslap: I think we had a misunderstanding of our definitions of dangerous


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OfflineSurReality
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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: NotTheDevil] * 1
    #19083923 - 11/04/13 01:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Besides, nicotine itself is not that bad for you, addictive yes, dangerous no. Lots of other stuff in tobacco smoke




dangerous no eh, i guess that would cause a misunderstanding lol


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OfflineNotTheDevil
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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: SurReality]
    #19083938 - 11/04/13 01:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Besides, nicotine itself is not that bad for you, addictive yes, dangerous no. Lots of other stuff in tobacco smoke




dangerous no eh, i guess that would cause a misunderstanding lol



Yup, I was thinking of direct biochemical effects like carcinogenicity and blood pressure etc. Instead of acute symptoms


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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: SurReality] * 1
    #19083949 - 11/04/13 01:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That is an interesting thing. I enjoy a nice cigarette every now and then, they are especially pleasant when other substances are involved. Certain drugs mixed with tobacco is like peanut butter and jelly. Cookies and milk. But I always found it interesting how intelligent people sometimes smoke cigarettes knowing that is killing them. I watched my grandmother die from smoking for 60 years and it is not a pleasant thing. Not being able to breathe is scary as fuck.
But sometimes it's just like fuck it, you know?

Here is a quote I enjoy by one of my favorite people:

“I burned the candle at both ends and it gave a lovely light” - Christopher Hitchens


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“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” - Carl Sagan


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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: Frost] * 2
    #19083981 - 11/04/13 02:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Now the flame that burns twice as bright
Burns only half as long
My eyes are growing weary
As I finalize this song
So sit back and have a cup o' joe
And watch the wheels go round
'Cause those damned blue-collar tweekers
Have always run this town


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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: SurReality]
    #19083989 - 11/04/13 02:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i didn't read the thread so sorry if this was covered:

i only recently found out that lung tissue actually doesn't heal like in the sense your skin does.  when u smoke ur fucking your lungs permanently.

whoops.


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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: teamkiller] * 1
    #19083996 - 11/04/13 02:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

they say that every 20 (?) yrs your body has completely new cells. i guess i have been lied to by them damn scientists


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OfflineNotTheDevil
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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: SurReality]
    #19084009 - 11/04/13 02:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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they say that every 20 (?) yrs your body has completely new cells. i guess i have been lied to by them damn scientists



Oh their new cells alright, but their structure is still damaged


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OfflineBeanhead
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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19084142 - 11/04/13 04:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My body's not a temple but rather an amusement park.

:shrug: for now


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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: Beanhead]
    #19084249 - 11/04/13 05:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

cigs are one of the best population controls out there. if you wanna poison your body for a shitty high be my guest:cookiemonster:


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Re: [Re: SurReality]
    #19084260 - 11/04/13 06:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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yea tobacco is actually more addictive than nicotine. thats how come nicotine products have a tendency to not be an effective substitute to smoking.




I found the smoking substitute, as in this Link to a similar thread, to be totally effective.
Maybe it's the tactile nature of it that is useful. :shrug:

Can't be bothered to type it all out again, so. Copy/paste >

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Can anyone recommend me a good e-cig in the UK? I tried SKYCIGs cheap one which barely worked and eventually broke.




I looked into E-cigs a year or so ago as I wanted to stop smoking. I gave up as there was just too much jargon to learn and I honestly couldn't be bothered.
I settled for these instead >



May not be as 'cool' as the E-cig, no flashing lights or vapour trail, :shrug: but...

The beauty of these is, if your local health center is taking part in the governments 'smoking cessation program' that you can get them on the NHS for the price of a prescription, or, free if you're on benefits. One box of the 42 cartridge (10mg) last me ~ three months.

Haven't smoked since 20/6 last year, after best part of 40 years of heavy smoking.

I wonder if they could use a similar technique to impregnate the cartridges with THC instead of nicotine. :strokebeard:




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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: 28064212] * 1
    #19084364 - 11/04/13 07:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think even one single cigarette feels like getting punched in the head, then again in the throat, then having a hooker spit in your mouth at the end of a long night sucking cocks.


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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19084478 - 11/04/13 08:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

bananas will help you quit
look dat ish up


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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: thelanzii]
    #19084523 - 11/04/13 08:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There were a couple reasons i never started. Nearly everyone i know who smokes regrets it and constantly tells me about how they're going to stop and they haven't smoked in 3 days and it's the same damn story every week. Second of all, it seems like a worthless drug. 2 minute buzz, too many health effects, expensive, addicting, etc. I can definitely see the appeal of the act of smoking itself and i feel that that draw would be wayyyyy too strong for my own good. Then most importantly, my entire moms side of the family are smokers and nearly all of them have died by the age of 40-50. It's not just cancer you have to worry about, they all died from either emphysema or heart disease. Granted i may be genetically predisposed to heart disease, but it still speaks volumes about the impact of long term smoking. As far as i can tell, those who do not get affected by smoking long term are the minority

Im all for doing drugs, and certainly not a health nut... But the idea of smoking cigs just doesn't sit right with me. It's like eating arsenic because you enjoy the taste. Such a shitty benefit/risk ratio. That being said, it would be nice to find a tasty and relatively healthy smoke blend that didn't completely obliterate me


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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19084622 - 11/04/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Using tobacco is by far the most dangerous and lethal mental illness in the world, and probably the most prevalent. Smoking cigarettes is undoubtedly and undeniably a mental illness.


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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19084688 - 11/04/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Using tobacco is by far the most dangerous and lethal mental illness in the world, and probably the most prevalent. Smoking cigarettes is undoubtedly and undeniably a mental illness.




:loldongs:

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Mental Illness - any disease of the mind; the psychological state of someone who has emotional or behavioral problems serious enough to require psychiatric intervention




Yeah, I don't smoke cigs and I never will...but calling it a mental illness is overkill. There are real mental illnesses out there that require psychiatric intervention. Cigarette smoking is not one of them.


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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: Can-i-bus]
    #19084749 - 11/04/13 09:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Can-i-bus said:
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Moonshoe said:
Using tobacco is by far the most dangerous and lethal mental illness in the world, and probably the most prevalent. Smoking cigarettes is undoubtedly and undeniably a mental illness.




:loldongs:

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Mental Illness - any disease of the mind; the psychological state of someone who has emotional or behavioral problems serious enough to require psychiatric intervention




Yeah, I don't smoke cigs and I never will...but calling it a mental illness is overkill. There are real mental illnesses out there that require psychiatric intervention. Cigarette smoking is not one of them.




Just depends how you define mental illness. Had our culture evolved differently, being drawn to sticking highly toxic materials in your lungs on a regular basis would very well be considered a mental illness akin to those loonies who are addicted to eating laundry detergent or talking through puppets

Actually, pretty sure addiction already is a mental illness. Of course i still think the label is too simplistic to just slap on things


Edited by JacksonMetaller (11/04/13 09:57 AM)


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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: Shroomism]
    #19084771 - 11/04/13 10:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I think sugar is probably the most addictive drug.



Yeah right, cause I suck dick for a pack of sugar every morning :rolleyes:

Fucking bullshit


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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: mellowparty]
    #19084798 - 11/04/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

ya but thats only a vaild comparison if you suck dick for crack

if sugar was as hard to get as crack, im sure there would be sugar whores


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Re: "Right now this cigarette feels so good I don't even care if I end up getting cancer." [Re: mellowparty]
    #19084802 - 11/04/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

my grandma and grandpa got cancer from smoking and died
my aunt got cancer from smoking and survived
i smoke weed its like making love to jessica alba vs smoking cigs which is like fucking a tree stump:cookiemonster:


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