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JingleJoe
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effects of frost on mushrooms outside - specifically cyans
#19083940 - 11/04/13 01:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Title says it all really: what are the effects of frost on P. cyanescens and other species?
I left quite a few growing outside as they are still small, I was going to wait untill they were bigger and wavier before I picked them but now after a cold and icey morning I'm concerned that the frost may damage them. Can it destroy them beyond active use? Will it inhibit thier growth? should I pick them now before it's too late?
Another question I have is: will it affect identification? e.g. changing the appearance of the stipe great enough to be mistaken for something poisonous or vice versa: can a poisonous mushroom (like the sulfur tuft or funeral bell) after frost be affected so greatly as to be mistaken for a cynescens?
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Re: effects of frost on mushrooms outside - specifically cyans [Re: JingleJoe]
#19084039 - 11/04/13 02:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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How hard frost are you talking about? I don't have experience with P. cyanescens but with liberty caps a short blast below zero will hardly do any damage, yet it seems if they are left freezing and thawing a couple of days in a row, they'll deteriorate faster when once picked. Meaning you should dry them immediately after picking.
If they still look like cyans and are easily identifiable as such, you should pick them imo.
If they're blackish, soggy and smelly, leave them.
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Re: effects of frost on mushrooms outside - specifically cyans [Re: Anglerfish]
#19084489 - 11/04/13 08:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'll agree that if they look good, get 'em and dry 'em. Freeze drying is popular so I don't think that cold will affect the potency. Libs are usually protected by habitat. Frost has a hard time cutting trough tall grass. Frost actually ON a mushroom will kill or at least damage it. Cyans grow in the open, so... I'll wager this stops the mycelium too. So get them while you can. This season is ending I fear. And just as I was learning too.
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Re: effects of frost on mushrooms outside - specifically cyans [Re: Chuck H]
#19084969 - 11/04/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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In my experience, P. cyanescens grow well through the first frosts. They are hearty enough to last through several days of hard cold. When the temps dip below freezing for a whole week or longer the season tends to die off.
They can still be found though, well through a good part of winter. Foliage and terrain produce micro climates that can sustain colonies of many different species.
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Re: effects of frost on mushrooms outside - specifically cyans [Re: dodeski]
#19085831 - 11/04/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
dodeski said: They can still be found though, well through a good part of winter. Foliage and terrain produce micro climates that can sustain colonies of many different species.
Spiffing, there is hope!
Thanks for all the tips and info chaps I'll let them grow a little bit more and harvest them after it gets colder but slugs and snails like them as much as I do... my precious mushrooms face such adversities. God I fucking love mushrooms they're so weird not just the psychadelic ones but the whole fucking species, reading books about them as a child did have an effect on me, of that I am certain... anyways enough sleep deprived rambling, onwards and downwards, TO BED!
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Re: effects of frost on mushrooms outside - specifically cyans [Re: JingleJoe]
#19086883 - 11/04/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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And with the aggressive fruitings I've seen, I conclude that people will be still be finding cyans well into the freezing season, in dense cover, i.e. leaves, bushes.
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