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Rewindicus
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1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts.....
#19083582 - 11/04/13 12:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So one of my best buds was over earlier. Never done any drugs in his life but always curious about mush and lsd. Well I had him try some changa and he HATED it. He said everything looked like he was seeing it through the eyes of a fly. That everything had a dark filter to it. That there was a loud buzzing like wings goin on loudly in his head and that everything was a murky brown/green/yellow. He said everything he looked at looked "cheap and dirty". He also said the fractals and patterns were moving in such a way it made him sick to his stomach.
Hes a super straight laced military guy. Real big on structure and order. Im wondering if the bad experience is because hes a control freak and a psychadelic experience being as chaotic as it is may have been too unsettling?
Thoughts?
-------------------- “Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.”- Dr. Seuss "Too much of a good thing, can be wonderful!" - Mae West "If you have nothing nice to say about anyone, come sit next to me." - Alice Roosevelt Longworth
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lifeiswhatyoumake
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Rewindicus]
#19083590 - 11/04/13 12:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think you could be right. Drugs aren't for everybody.
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
#19083605 - 11/04/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: I think you could be right. Drugs aren't for everybody.
for very strong ones like dmt this is even more true
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: spixce]
#19083706 - 11/04/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why are you giving someone SO inexperienced with drugs/psychedelics/altered states of mind DMT for there first time? First off they didnt break through, low doses can get weird if you dont know wtf your doing. His MIND was not ready for such an experience, wtf were you thinking? Maybe have him smoke some dank weed or something, NOT changa. Idiot.
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lifeiswhatyoumake
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
#19083740 - 11/04/13 12:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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MystiqueMushroom said: Why are you giving someone SO inexperienced with drugs/psychedelics/altered states of mind DMT for there first time? First off they didnt break through, low doses can get weird if you dont know wtf your doing. His MIND was not ready for such an experience, wtf were you thinking? Maybe have him smoke some dank weed or something, NOT changa. Idiot.
This, too.
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Rewindicus
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
#19083871 - 11/04/13 01:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol he cant smoke weed some people have jobs that drug test. They are called careers maybe youll have one some day
Of course it wasn't a breakthrough. It was a small light dose. 25mg.
-------------------- “Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.”- Dr. Seuss "Too much of a good thing, can be wonderful!" - Mae West "If you have nothing nice to say about anyone, come sit next to me." - Alice Roosevelt Longworth
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lifeiswhatyoumake
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Rewindicus]
#19083906 - 11/04/13 01:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rewindicus said: Lol he cant smoke weed some people have jobs that drug test. They are called careers maybe youll have one some day
Of course it wasn't a breakthrough. It was a small light dose. 25mg.
Ah, I see. I do hope to have a career by this date next year, as I shall have a degree in comp sci.
Is changa less potent than regular DMT? Because 25 mg of DMT is quite a good bit, I think.
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Rewindicus]
#19083964 - 11/04/13 02:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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his description sounds very 2 dimensional. i think this proves that the experience depends entirely on the individual's state of mind,.
what a step to skip though going from no drugs to straight up DMT..
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: zZZz]
#19083969 - 11/04/13 02:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nothing can really prepare you for a breakthrough DMT void.
-------------------- "An ignorant man is lost, faithless, and filled with self-doubt; A soul that harbors doubt has no joy, not in this world or the next." -Bhagavad-gita 4:40
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Rewindicus
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
#19084016 - 11/04/13 02:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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changa is more......i wanna say watered down? but that DOES not take away from the experience. I feel like its actually a lot more smooth than straight smoked dmt.
-------------------- “Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.”- Dr. Seuss "Too much of a good thing, can be wonderful!" - Mae West "If you have nothing nice to say about anyone, come sit next to me." - Alice Roosevelt Longworth
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Rewindicus]
#19084127 - 11/04/13 04:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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From what I have seen in hyperspace myself the vast majority of people would utterly shit themselves after a full on breakthrough dose of DMT and never return to it ever again- ever!
-------------------- "I'm every nightmare you ever had. I am your worst dreams come true. I am everything you ever were afraid of." Pennywise the dancing clown
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: wolf8312]
#19084283 - 11/04/13 06:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psychedelics are about loss of control and accepting the lack of control that one has. So yeah, it is definitely that, I don't know how you could expect someone with no prior knowledge of what to expect, to enjoy DMT, especially someone who sounds like they should never do it in the first place.
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Rewindicus]
#19084286 - 11/04/13 06:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I love giving total noobs DMT because they learn not to dive into something so powerful so easily...they learn some manners
and OP anybody who loves being in control of themselves is your first warning sign that the drug is not for them
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#19084395 - 11/04/13 07:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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dmt isnt for everyone, I love mushrooms, lsd and every other psyce I have tried just about. smoked dmt is too fast and to me atleast never feels more than a familiar dream. knowing what I know now, I woulda just avoided dmt all together, I feel ive only wasted time and money on it.
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: bishlap]
#19084403 - 11/04/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wanna do it once
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Deathcore]
#19084425 - 11/04/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not all trips are the same, just saying. He could very well do it again and love it
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19084445 - 11/04/13 08:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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JacksonMetaller said: Not all trips are the same, just saying. He could very well do it again and love it
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: spixce]
#19084530 - 11/04/13 08:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I might not have given him changa as a first time drug experience, ha. Try to get him to do it again sometime, maybe. For science
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Absent Minded]
#19084555 - 11/04/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dude... Jumping into DMT without ever taking any other drug is like..... I don't even know but it's too fucking crazy hahaha
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: meganthratalica]
#19084563 - 11/04/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eh DMT was my first real psychedelic experience... it just comes down to dose. I've had harder times on LSD and mushrooms, granted the duration of the experience allowed me to find things i enjoyed in it rather than being left with a 5 minute impression
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19084582 - 11/04/13 09:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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compared to 3 hits, what would 1 hit of acid do?
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JacksonMetaller
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Deathcore]
#19084587 - 11/04/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Deathcore said: compared to 3 hits, what would 1 hit of acid do?
depends how strong you acid is. I've had three hits that gave me one of the most terrifying trips of my life, and 3 hits that were nice and chill
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19084603 - 11/04/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well I only had real L once.. 3 hits... and it was scary and evil as fuck..
But I have 1 hit ive been holding on to...
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Deathcore]
#19085209 - 11/04/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Giving someone 1 hit of DMT can actually be a good introduction to psychedelics. Its such a shortly lasting drug with such 'natural' effects I don't see how you could go wrong. my mom, to this day, will only smoke dmt and not anything else because she fears she cannot handle a '8 hour trip'
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Rewindicus]
#19085612 - 11/04/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is a bad experience that was reported in a thread of mine.
one time i smoked some left over dmt that had been sitting in a pipe for a few days.i instantly seen my living room turn into an alien landscape, that of something similar to the war of the worlds scene where tom cruise comes out of the house after he kills the guy, and there is blood, veins and all kinds of crazy shit stretched across the land and trees, as it pulsated and came to life. i curled up in the fetal position and covered my face because i wanted it to stop.
cubehead87 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18390746#18390746
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Rewindicus
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#19085624 - 11/04/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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As bill said that was precisely my reasoning, the short duration. He said he was very interested in trying mushrooms or lsd. However thats a 5 to 12 hour ordeal. I presented the low changa dose to him as a good example of a moderate trip. He said if the patterns and colors and swirls were what it was all about hed definitely not be trying mush or lsd.
I did explain to him no trip is the same and individual results vary and that maybe the downer colors and visuals he was having were due to some apprehension. He said even if it was all nice colors and visuals he doesn't think tripping is for him and was actually very thankful for the experience only lasting 10 minutes rather than hours.
-------------------- “Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.”- Dr. Seuss "Too much of a good thing, can be wonderful!" - Mae West "If you have nothing nice to say about anyone, come sit next to me." - Alice Roosevelt Longworth
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Rewindicus]
#19085632 - 11/04/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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he'll be back. they always do..
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Rewindicus]
#19085644 - 11/04/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rewindicus said: He said even if it was all nice colors and visuals he doesn't think tripping is for him and was actually very thankful for the experience only lasting 10 minutes rather than hours.
i'm thinking maybe you have a life-long designated driver on yr hands... this can be a good thing... the psychedelic experience is not for everybody...
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: leon trout]
#19085655 - 11/04/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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there's still alcohol bro
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Rewindicus
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: zZZz]
#19085798 - 11/04/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hes not much of a drinker "too many carbs".
But yah im ok with another DD.
-------------------- “Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.”- Dr. Seuss "Too much of a good thing, can be wonderful!" - Mae West "If you have nothing nice to say about anyone, come sit next to me." - Alice Roosevelt Longworth
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Rewindicus]
#19086101 - 11/04/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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My mom and a couple other people I know did peyote, shrooms and LSD back in the 80s and tried my dmt a few months ago. They ALL agreed that it had a peculiar, unique feeling that was literally more euphoric than any other drug experience they've had, freebase cocaine (PURE) included!
Pure freebase cocaine would surely provide more of a euphoric rush than any amount of mdma presumably, based on my experience with mere crack, lol
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#19086110 - 11/04/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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MagicalOrangutan said: My mom and a couple other people I know did peyote, shrooms and LSD back in the 80s and tried my dmt a few months ago. They ALL agreed that it had a peculiar, unique feeling that was literally more euphoric than any other drug experience they've had, freebase cocaine (PURE) included!
Pure freebase cocaine would surely provide more of a euphoric rush than any amount of mdma presumably, based on my experience with mere crack, lol
Interesting.
Oral DMT as a replacement for things like crack and heroin
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