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1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts.....
    #19083582 - 11/04/13 12:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So one of my best buds was over earlier. Never done any drugs in his life but always curious about mush and lsd. Well I had him try some changa and he HATED it. He said everything looked like he was seeing it through the eyes of a fly. That everything had a dark filter to it. That there was a loud buzzing like wings goin on loudly in his head and that everything was a murky brown/green/yellow. He said everything he looked at looked "cheap and dirty". He also said the fractals and patterns were moving in such a way it made him sick to his stomach.



Hes a super straight laced military guy. Real big on structure and order. Im wondering if the bad experience is because hes a control freak and a psychadelic experience being as chaotic as it is may have been too unsettling?

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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Rewindicus]
    #19083590 - 11/04/13 12:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think you could be right.
Drugs aren't for everybody.


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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #19083605 - 11/04/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
I think you could be right.
Drugs aren't for everybody.



for very strong ones like dmt this is even more true


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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: spixce]
    #19083706 - 11/04/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Why are you giving someone SO inexperienced with drugs/psychedelics/altered states of mind DMT for there first time? First off they didnt break through, low doses can get weird if you dont know wtf your doing.
His MIND was not ready for such an experience, wtf were you thinking? Maybe have him smoke some dank weed or something, NOT changa. Idiot.


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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
    #19083740 - 11/04/13 12:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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MystiqueMushroom said:
Why are you giving someone SO inexperienced with drugs/psychedelics/altered states of mind DMT for there first time? First off they didnt break through, low doses can get weird if you dont know wtf your doing.
His MIND was not ready for such an experience, wtf were you thinking? Maybe have him smoke some dank weed or something, NOT changa. Idiot.




This, too.


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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #19083871 - 11/04/13 01:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Lol he cant smoke weed some people have jobs that drug test. They are called careers maybe youll have one some day :shrug:

Of course it wasn't a breakthrough. It was a small light dose. 25mg.


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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Rewindicus]
    #19083906 - 11/04/13 01:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Rewindicus said:
Lol he cant smoke weed some people have jobs that drug test. They are called careers maybe youll have one some day :shrug:

Of course it wasn't a breakthrough. It was a small light dose. 25mg.




Ah, I see.
I do hope to have a career by this date next year, as I shall have a degree in comp sci.

Is changa less potent than regular DMT?
Because 25 mg of DMT is quite a good bit, I think.


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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Rewindicus]
    #19083964 - 11/04/13 02:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

his description sounds very 2 dimensional. i think this proves that the experience depends entirely on the individual's state of mind,.

what a step to skip though going from no drugs to straight up DMT.. :lol:


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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: zZZz]
    #19083969 - 11/04/13 02:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Nothing can really prepare you for a breakthrough DMT void.


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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #19084016 - 11/04/13 02:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

changa is more......i wanna say watered down? but that DOES not take away from the experience. I feel like its actually a lot more smooth than straight smoked dmt.


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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Rewindicus]
    #19084127 - 11/04/13 04:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

From what I have seen in hyperspace myself the vast majority of people would utterly shit themselves after a full on breakthrough dose of DMT and never return to it ever again- ever!


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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: wolf8312]
    #19084283 - 11/04/13 06:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Psychedelics are about loss of control and accepting the lack of control that one has. So yeah, it is definitely that, I don't know how you could expect someone with no prior knowledge of what to expect, to enjoy DMT, especially someone who sounds like they should never do it in the first place.


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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Rewindicus]
    #19084286 - 11/04/13 06:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I love giving total noobs DMT because they learn not to dive into something so powerful so easily...they learn some manners


and OP anybody who loves being in control of themselves is your first warning sign that the drug is not for them


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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #19084395 - 11/04/13 07:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

dmt isnt for everyone, I love mushrooms, lsd and every other psyce I have tried just about.
smoked dmt is too fast and to me atleast never feels more than a familiar dream.
knowing what I know now, I woulda just avoided dmt all together, I feel ive only wasted time and money on it.


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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: bishlap]
    #19084403 - 11/04/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I wanna do it once


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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Deathcore]
    #19084425 - 11/04/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not all trips are the same, just saying. He could very well do it again and love it


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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19084445 - 11/04/13 08:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Not all trips are the same, just saying. He could very well do it again and love it




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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: spixce]
    #19084530 - 11/04/13 08:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I might not have given him changa as a first time drug experience, ha.
Try to get him to do it again sometime, maybe.
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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: Absent Minded]
    #19084555 - 11/04/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Dude... Jumping into DMT without ever taking any other drug is like..... I don't even know but it's too fucking crazy hahaha


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Re: 1st time ive seen someone NOT enjoy dmt.....(btw hes a control freak) thoughts..... [Re: meganthratalica]
    #19084563 - 11/04/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Eh DMT was my first real psychedelic experience... it just comes down to dose. I've had harder times on LSD and mushrooms, granted the duration of the experience allowed me to find things i enjoyed in it rather than being left with a 5 minute impression


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