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Re: That voice [Re: Space Elf]
    #19080949 - 11/03/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

why all the anger here?  i don't think i know everything.  i am in a constant state of information input and i will learn things until the day i die (and possibly after that, as well?) 

so chill yourself out and don't be a tool.


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Re: That voice [Re: windowlikcer]
    #19083404 - 11/03/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Also, there is 4d matrix I "see" as a layer between me and the world, even on the back of my eyelids.  I like to think that it is the rumble of a new psychosocial revolution, but then I think I'm jus' trippin'.




I have been doing research on what you are referencing here for about a year now, and that 4d field of buzzing "mad molecules" is an experience that has been described by people in art, philosophy, and so on for thousands of years. Its even represented in some of the oldest works of art known. As I'm sure you've intuited during/after the experience, it is the "substrate" from which all sense impressions arise. When you see it as a sort of indistinct haze, it seems that you are seeing the sort of feedback loop created by the many impressions of it being stacked on top of one another in rapid succession, but in those very deep and still moments the "4d matrix" is revealed in its full glory, totally unrestrained, random color and form with a beauty unparalleled by anything in the pale, lifeless waking world.

It could be the beginnings of a psychosocial revolution if enough people learned to notice it (it can be easily done sober, no psychedelics needed), and learned about its function. It is the key to understanding how the "outside world" is actually very much an inner world, simply the projection that takes form when the 4d matrix you speak of is blurred.




Thank you.  This is some of the best wordings I can relate to as far as this subject, and I have tried to talk about it to a few only to be met with the same stare I give other people who are rambling senselessly about their trip theories.  The thing is that this is only partially connected to drugs, maybe not even significantly.  It is a sort of thing that has been a theme to my worldview for as long as I can remember, well before I began using drugs.

I will say that these sort of introspective persuits probably made me more prone to drug use, but I don't think the drugs caused me to think like this.


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Re: That voice [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19083428 - 11/03/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The voice in my head says some hilarious things when I do mushrooms. Usually nonsensical words like hooveyshava or wambolina


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"As I walk on through troubled times my spirit gets so downhearted sometimes so where are the strong and who are the trusted? And where is the harmony? Sweet harmony. Cause each time I feel it slippin' away, just makes me wanna cry. What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?" - Nick Lowe

"Psychedelic drugs don't change you - they don't change your character - unless you want to be changed. They enable change; they can't impose it...” - Sasha Shulgin


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Re: That voice [Re: mindgnome]
    #19083828 - 11/04/13 01:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I apologize for straying from the topic, but I like the discussion in this thread.  One thing I notice about how mushrooms change my perspective is that they will make the line between weird and normal non-existant.  I'm not saying I wouldn't join you in a laughing fit over some hooveybolina but I may as well hear anything, because even normal words seem completely absurd. 

That is perhaps why I seek out and find solace in the whispering (or sometimes rumbling) undercurrents to sensation most people know as silence, death, stillness, empty space.  It is the part of existence that seems to transcend the self.  It is there and it does seem to say things, even if it uses no words.


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Re: That voice [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19084730 - 11/04/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I remember hearing

He doesn't get it.. He doesn't understand yet

lol


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Re: That voice [Re: Deathcore]
    #19087904 - 11/04/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Who is "he"?  Me? (real q, not rhetorical or anything).  Could you elaborate?


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Re: That voice [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19088473 - 11/05/13 02:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

3rd person, in regards to me probably..

Like machine elves I couldn't see saying I'm not ready..


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Re: That voice [Re: Deathcore]
    #19088495 - 11/05/13 02:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Deathcore said:
3rd person, in regards to me probably..

Like machine elves I couldn't see saying I'm not ready..




You clarify, but only to convolute.

The machine elves were talking about you as if you didn't understand. Did they enlighten you in any way, or only whisper of your incapacity?


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Re: That voice [Re: healing]
    #19088522 - 11/05/13 03:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I was going through hell at the time so I assumed it was satan or someone trying to trick me


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