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Reincarnation
    #19083333 - 11/03/13 11:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I went through all of my past lives on my first trip on acid whilst in a trance as well as the evolution of the universe.(I took quite a lot though heh)

Reminded me of this poem, just thought I would share.

'A Stone I died

A stone I died and rose again a plant;
A plant I died and rose an animal;
I died an animal and was born a man.
Why should I fear? What have I lost by death?'
Mewlana Jalaluddin Rumi


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: hTx]
    #19083382 - 11/03/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Acid is one helluva drug. :thumbup:


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: hTx]
    #19083936 - 11/04/13 01:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I was you in a past life.  I committed suicide. :whoa:

(just yoking)  (I think)


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: Icelander]
    #19084295 - 11/04/13 06:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Don't joke around Ice. I saw myself living life of everyone that ever lived, lives and will live... time wasn't really seen as dynamic at that point. The one having the experience was one and the same! The One! And what's worse, I was sober.
I don't know if all of this is true, but I've been trying to live with awarenes of it on my mind as I go... treat everyone as they are me and today it doesn't even matter if it's true or not, but it's a way better life with this attitude for certain.
The only annoying thing is, shortly after everyone started saying 'We're all one'. Not that they weren't before but it just got really trendy for some reason... and nobody has a clue what they're talking about!


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: cbub]
    #19084739 - 11/04/13 09:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Don't joke around Ice

:wouldyoulookatthat:


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: Icelander]
    #19085153 - 11/04/13 12:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: Icelander]
    #19088069 - 11/04/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I was you in a past life.  I committed suicide. :whoa:

(just yoking)  (I think)



:ooo:

Welllll thnks for ruining the ending! :tongue2:


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: cbub]
    #19088123 - 11/05/13 12:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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cbub said:
Don't joke around Ice. I saw myself living life of everyone that ever lived, lives and will live... time wasn't really seen as dynamic at that point. The one having the experience was one and the same! The One! And what's worse, I was sober.
I don't know if all of this is true, but I've been trying to live with awarenes of it on my mind as I go... treat everyone as they are me and today it doesn't even matter if it's true or not, but it's a way better life with this attitude for certain.
The only annoying thing is, shortly after everyone started saying 'We're all one'. Not that they weren't before but it just got really trendy for some reason... and nobody has a clue what they're talking about!





Elitist much?
Your experience has no more credibility than anyone else's experience who claims to understand "We're all one."


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: cez]
    #19088496 - 11/05/13 02:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:lol:
Like I said, I don't even know if it's true and even less better than anyone else's .

I am very happy when I hear somebody say it, just to find out that they just say it because it's trendy and it's a cool line to say.
Goes well with their Gaiatm hoodie and celtic pendant, you know?


//edit: Actually, it's true I'm biased here, have to admit. When it's said that 'we are all one' means 'we are one humanity, each individual like a cell, no countries or religion too, imagine all the people living life in peace :fasted:
I believe such definition of oneness to be a general misconception. But on the other hand, such belief is healthy to society and it still makes me happy to be around such people. There's other topics to converse about.


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: hTx]
    #19088659 - 11/05/13 04:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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hTx said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
I was you in a past life.  I committed suicide. :whoa:

(just yoking)  (I think)



:ooo:

Welllll thnks for ruining the ending! :tongue2:



:lol:


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: hTx]
    #19091478 - 11/05/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Reincarnation as the idea that you have had the same soul in different bodies seems pretty silly to me :loldongs:

Reincarnation as the idea that your existing life will become life in different forms though :jackiechanofapproval:

When I die I assume that I'll be "reincarnated" as a large variety of bacteria, flesh consuming insects, plants with roots near my deceased body, fungi, and other things that enjoy a tasty carcass.
Hell that process is going on right now, my skin dies and falls off to be consumed by a plethora of beings all the time, and I get bug bites more often than I'd like :crankey:
Bugs which eat me will get eaten by birds/rodents which might get eaten by humans, but are more likely to be eaten by a slightly larger life form that might also get eaten by a human, but the cycle could continue.
I'll probably get eaten by some hungry human one day though! :lol:
Maybe those plants will get eaten by a human at which point the energy from my cells will be used by a self aware consciousness in a slightly quicker and... less gross fashion.
If I really wanna become human again quickly, I can find a friendly cannibal somewhere.
Or I could pull a Tupac and have my friends throw the ashes from my incineration in a blunt  :smoker:

If we really want to stick to the idea that some form of your consciousness will be sustained through reincarnation though, I'm definitely gonna buy a bunch of slow lorises and starve them as I'm on my deathbed, then have them released upon my body. I mean how could you not want to live life as a group of these bastards?


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: HalfLight]
    #19095218 - 11/06/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Terrific post, TryinToTrip.

The traditional Eastern idea of reincarnation -- that "I" -- my soul, my being -- gets re-manifested in another body is simply another manifestation of "fear of death and dying." 

Fear of death and dying is the cash cow that fuels much of institutional religion, Eastern and Western. 

That's why both Eastern and Western traditions hawk it so much.


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: hTx]
    #19095497 - 11/06/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



I'll be back!


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #19096545 - 11/06/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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The traditional Eastern idea of reincarnation -- that "I" -- my soul, my being -- gets re-manifested in another body is simply another manifestation of "fear of death and dying." 




"simply" eh. Yea thats pretty damn simple. A conclusion a bit too simple in my view. You basically just sum up all of mankinds higher thinking over the ages, all the philosophical arguments and different metaphysical views as nothing but a fear of death? lol such a narrow short sighted view no doubt.


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: soldatheero]
    #19096703 - 11/06/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't call making up silly stories to be a form of 'higher thinking'.


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19096946 - 11/06/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So does physics have any space here.... consciousness = energy = neither created nor destroyed....

So does your electricity (conciousness or soul) change state or form when u die?

It obviously goes somewhere... not turned into heat or sound or the like... doesn't just disperse...

Gets reclaimed by the collective to be redistributed among living (or non) things?


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: meatables]
    #19097057 - 11/06/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well I had never really considered reincarnation before the experience, and even though I had the experience, I was on drugs so I cannot give to much credence.

It did, however, :mindblown:


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: meatables]
    #19097188 - 11/06/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Consciousness is a property of the brain and is not energy.

Physics fail.

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Re: Reincarnation [Re: meatables]
    #19097218 - 11/06/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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meatables said:
So does physics have any space here.... consciousness = energy = neither created nor destroyed....

So does your electricity (conciousness or soul) change state or form when u die?

It obviously goes somewhere... not turned into heat or sound or the like... doesn't just disperse...

Gets reclaimed by the collective to be redistributed among living (or non) things?




Physics makes the world go 'round. :thumbup:


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Re: Reincarnation [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19097329 - 11/06/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Consciousness is a property of the brain and is not energy.

Physics fail.

:failboat:




The brain runs on electricity which is a form of energy...

No brain electricity = dead = no conciousness

I don't see your argument


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