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Re: Is James Randi an asshole? [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #19088006 - 11/04/13 11:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
And if he has no desire to convince then why post elaborate stories?



Not to mention, elaborate stories which don't actually prove anything and are nothing more than a "cool story, bro."


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Re: Is James Randi an asshole? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19088494 - 11/05/13 02:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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and now I can go on and discuss these things with similar minds




And there is the rub. Truth does not need require similar beliefs. It requires evidence and demonstration, not 'yes' men. This is the same reason people huddle together in the church of their choice - for comfort and out of fear their beliefs will not hold up under rigid scrutiny.

The real truth-seekers put their ideas before the whole world to uncover the flaws, if any, not searching for a group with which to find agreement.


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Re: Is James Randi an asshole? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19088631 - 11/05/13 04:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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Icelander said:
And if he has no desire to convince then why post elaborate stories?




Because he has a desire to convince except when the audience is not convinced then the motivation magically shifts. How many times have we witnessed this tactic?




Describing an experience is not the same as wanting to convince. I will describe if only to 'speak from experience,' and as I can be wordy, words are what you will get. I will continue to represent my experiences, they have given rise to my stance.  But you or James Randi will have to be convinced by experiences of your own, just as Buddha has suggested. :bye:




You are aware this is a debate forum. You are aware that the function of this forum (unlike others here) is to show evidence and convince.  So I'm going to say that I'm not convinced by your claims that you do not hope to convince. :laugh:


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Re: Is James Randi an asshole? [Re: Icelander]
    #19095706 - 11/06/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
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MarkostheGnostic said:
Describing an experience is not the same as wanting to convince. I will describe if only to 'speak from experience,' and as I can be wordy, words are what you will get. I will continue to represent my experiences, they have given rise to my stance.  But you or James Randi will have to be convinced by experiences of your own, just as Buddha has suggested. :bye:




You are aware this is a debate forum. You are aware that the function of this forum (unlike others here) is to show evidence and convince.  So I'm going to say that I'm not convinced by your claims that you do not hope to convince. :laugh:




Good. Keep that mind open. I'm done conversing with individuals who do not evidence an ability to shift their 'assemblage points.'


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Re: Is James Randi an asshole? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19097484 - 11/06/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Aw somebody seems butthurt and needs a little pout. :lol:

I'm done conversing with individuals who do not evidence an ability to shift their 'assemblage points.


Is that a promise cause you'll for sure be posting to me again in no time. :haha:


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