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jinx771
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New Fruiting Chamber Concept
#19082174 - 11/03/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So my boy who doesn't use the internet wants to know if this diagram he made up will work. it's currently the exact thing he's using to incubate the myc. The idea is that you optimally want 100% humidity as well as a consistent temperature of about 70F, and since the heating unit is already water based, why wouldn't that same water work to keep the humidity high when it's time to fruit? has anyone tried this? My boy doesn't want to stray too far from the pf tek method which calls for use of perlite, but it just seems like this will work just as well.
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Re: New Fruiting Chamber Concept [Re: jinx771]
#19082200 - 11/03/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks like a Tub in Tub fruiting chamber to me ....nothing new
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Re: New Fruiting Chamber Concept [Re: jinx771]
#19082203 - 11/03/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just build a proper sgfc, things like that have been tried tested and failed many times
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jinx771
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Re: New Fruiting Chamber Concept [Re: mudbutt]
#19082219 - 11/03/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah he knows TIT isn't knew but with TIT the inner container is sealed off from the outer container, the moisture from the outer container's water doesn't reach the inner container's "atmosphere". in this situation it does.
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jinx771
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Re: New Fruiting Chamber Concept [Re: cronicr]
#19082228 - 11/03/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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cronicr said: Just build a proper sgfc, things like that have been tried tested and failed many times
What would have failed? not enough oxygen? because he doesn't see how the temperature or humidity wouldn't do perfectly fine in this design? Or could he shotgun the top part of the outer bin and just refill with water as the water levels go down?
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Re: New Fruiting Chamber Concept [Re: jinx771]
#19082257 - 11/03/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its just an old take on things and reminds me of old fishtank grows lol , not to say they won't work just sgfcs are just way more ideal
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Re: New Fruiting Chamber Concept [Re: cronicr]
#19082261 - 11/03/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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cronicr said: Just build a proper sgfc, things like that have been tried tested and failed many times
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Re: New Fruiting Chamber Concept [Re: jinx771]
#19082272 - 11/03/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What will fail is that you don't want a steady temperature or a steady humidity during fruiting. You want both to be fluctuating. RR
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Re: New Fruiting Chamber Concept [Re: jinx771]
#19082370 - 11/03/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have thought about this, if you do a traditional tub in tub tek but put a couple holes in the second tub the moist air from below would come through the holes.
You do not want the cakes directly on the bottom of tub 2 though, as you want this water like 90F? .. put some perlite on the bottom of tub 2 or at least some jar lids or something.
FAE would be a huge problem with this set up though. So you will need to pack some holes loosely with polyfill and blow a fan indirectly to the side for the tub or on low from across the room.
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Re: New Fruiting Chamber Concept [Re: RogerRabbit]
#19082390 - 11/03/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: What will fail is that you don't want a steady temperature or a steady humidity during fruiting. You want both to be fluctuating. RR
hmm ?I guess you will not get as much humidity if the temperature does not fluctuate?
or do you mean the mycelium benefits from the fluctuation?
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Re: New Fruiting Chamber Concept [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
#19082483 - 11/03/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This sounds like a great idea!!! Lol, it spells contamination all over it. I do like the forward thinking, but unfortunately this is not a new idea and has failed many times before.
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Re: New Fruiting Chamber Concept [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
#19082539 - 11/03/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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MUSH HEAD420 said:
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RogerRabbit said: What will fail is that you don't want a steady temperature or a steady humidity during fruiting. You want both to be fluctuating. RR
hmm ?I guess you will not get as much humidity if the temperature does not fluctuate?
or do you mean the mycelium benefits from the fluctuation?

For millions of years before cultivation started temps and rh have fluctuated in nature
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