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If have any question about chinese mysterious culture
    #19078152 - 11/03/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: Someon-e]
    #19078211 - 11/03/13 12:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

But if you answered it, would it still be a mystery? :crazy:


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19078292 - 11/03/13 01:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

haha, very wise


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: Someon-e]
    #19078559 - 11/03/13 01:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not wise, but facetious.  For the moment, consider me a wise ass.  I looked at the website in your description, and noticed some outrageously expensive loot.

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Taoist-Heaven-s-Library-fairy-Dan-method-Collection-Top-secret-Chinese-mysterious-culture/1016164_1448525853.html

"Books are printed, not the original.
We put ancient books repair, electronic.
The books, it is the taoist Top-secret.
Must not find elsewhere."

$1,000 USD

I assure you that nobody here will pay that kind of cash for a book, particularly when you've offered a short, cryptic description in broken English.  That does not add to the allure.  You have some explaining to do.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19078700 - 11/03/13 02:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Haha,
In fact, it is just a sample,because I don't want to sell those book.
But open the store,need 10 pieces, so I put that in here.
When I update more goods, I will cancel.
Thank you for your advice.


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: Someon-e] * 1
    #19078831 - 11/03/13 04:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Crap - also called spam.

One thing I do know is the Chinese are so fucking full of shit they will believe anything because they lie from birth, are lied to from birth by their government, and then their religions are all state institutions. You guys suck. There's only mystery there but no truth. Truth has fled China.

The wise of China get killed. Thus there are not any.


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: Someon-e]
    #19078863 - 11/03/13 05:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Why are the chinese so dumb as to want to be Europeans?

and

What's up with all that commie bs?

and

What's up with Tibet?


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: eve69]
    #19079348 - 11/03/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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One thing I do know is the Chinese are so fucking full of shit they will believe anything because they lie from birth, are lied to from birth by their government, and then their religions are all state institutions. You guys suck. There's only mystery there but no truth. Truth has fled China.

The wise of China get killed. Thus there are not any.



^^  A classic "stereotyping rant."  Bravo.  A beauty.

In my upcoming book -- "The Art of Stereotyping" -- I'll be sure to include that example in the appendix.


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: all this beauty]
    #19079487 - 11/03/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's not stereotyping. They think they can just rewrite history and historical figures. They do whatever they please. They answer to nobody. It isn't stereotyping at all. It is history.

Take Tibet, they decimate it, practice genocide, then create their own Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama.  They have numerous Chinese 'Mahayana' Buddhist avatars who perform magic tricks as miracles.  With hundreds of thousands of believers.  Yes, this isn't different from snakebite Christianity.  Yes, our own leaders are becoming more like them. No that doesn't absolve the Chinese of responsibility for their own corrupt nation.


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: eve69]
    #19079582 - 11/03/13 10:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There are kernels of truth in everything you say there, eve, but let's not forget the fledgling Chinese resistance movement that has so bravely fought against the injustices in that society.  There are lots and lots of good, enlightened people in China.

Religion-wise, every major world religion has its snakebite factions.  The Buddhists are certainly not immune from that.

It's easy to over-generalize (I occasionally do it too), but best, I think, to try to resist the temptation.


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: all this beauty]
    #19079617 - 11/03/13 10:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

And truth be know they are much different from the rest of humanity. :haha:


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: all this beauty]
    #19079751 - 11/03/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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There are kernels of truth in everything you say there, eve, but let's not forget the fledgling Chinese resistance movement that has so bravely fought against the injustices in that society.  There are lots and lots of good, enlightened people in China.

Religion-wise, every major world religion has its snakebite factions.  The Buddhists are certainly not immune from that.

It's easy to over-generalize (I occasionally do it too), but best, I think, to try to resist the temptation.





I am not denying the efforts of good people, I am speaking to the point of Chinese mysticism in the modern age.  There is nothing there. Just slight of hand and the state sponsored dismantling of traditional religion and replacement with some freakish puppet show.


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: eve69]
    #19079962 - 11/03/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I am not denying the efforts of good people, I am speaking to the point of Chinese mysticism in the modern age.  There is nothing there. Just slight of hand and the state sponsored dismantling of traditional religion and replacement with some freakish puppet show.



Valid point. 

Daoism is alive and well in China, but for the most part it's been turned into a freakish sideshow.  With a few exceptions, Lao Tzu would not recognize "Daoism," were he to visit China today.

Totalitarian states tend to use institutional religion for their own purposes.  Hitler's Nazi Germany is a good example.  Many, if not most, Nazis considered themselves to be good Christians.

Putin is doing the same thing in Russia today.  He's harnessing the fanaticism of the Russian Orthodox Church to clamp down on "undesirables." 

In Hitler's Germany, the "undesirables" were the Jews.  In Putin's Russia today, the undesirables are gay and lesbian people.


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: all this beauty]
    #19084159 - 11/04/13 04:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I just want to say what I knew.
In no doubt, Chinese traditional culture had great damage.
But there are also still some preserved.
The root of Chinese culture, is in Taoism,
now, most people are blind.
So I try to develop and promote it.


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: Someon-e]
    #19084171 - 11/04/13 04:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

In that case I would like to know more about Daoist Astrology. And I'm sorry.


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: eve69]
    #19094278 - 11/06/13 07:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It doesn't matter.

Chinese mathematical forcast method(Apply mathematical methods together with five elements approach to predict the changes results and patterns of events).

The five elements are 金(Gold), 水(Water), 木(wood), 火(Fire) and 土(Earth)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_Xing

If you mean Astrology, you can refer to
Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zi_wei_dou_shu


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: Someon-e]
    #19094287 - 11/06/13 07:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Of course, also need to use the book of changes, gossip, etc.
These will need to be proficient.


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: Icelander]
    #19094942 - 11/06/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Why are the chinese so dumb as to want to be Europeans?

and

What's up with all that commie bs?

and

What's up with Tibet?




The Chinese aren't mysterious at all, they're just humans. :lol:

I don't know if you really cared to hear these, but I love talking about China and Chinese history, so I thought I'd type up a little something on your questions. :grin:

At the turn of the 20th century, China wanted to modernize, but not "westernize." They thought that the extraterritoriality of British, French, and German control in China was absurd. They also were under a lot of Japanese occupation, and the Japanese modeled themselves a lot off Britain. They thought that, if Britain is an island that controls most of the world, why can't we be one? The Japanese had this mentality that they were going to lead Asia into the new world, and that Japan was going to be the face of Asia.

So, anyways, the Chinese hated this. When the turn of the 20th century came, China had what was called the May Fourth Movement. This was a movement that involved China trying to define itself in a modern era. Questions amongst intellectuals in China were, "What does it mean to be Chinese? What aspects of our culture do we want to retain? What things are garbage that are holding us back?" China has so many minority groups, and while Han is the majority, a lot of the others didn't want to join the Chinese state.

The Chinese Communist Party was a minority party at first, and in 1911 the Guomindang (or the Nationalist Party) took hold of the nation. The Chinese Communist Party also wanted to modernize, but they DIDN'T want to be like these greedy western nation states who would exploit people, and other nations.

I believe it was Li Dazhao, an intellectual, who painted the Communist struggle in a way that fit the China's predicament. In the Communist Manifesto, it says that a nation must go from Capitalism, to Socialism, and then to Communism: but capitalism was such a far removed idea from Chinese thought at the time. So Li Dazhao said that China (as a nation) was the proletariat, being exploited from the upper class of the world. It was China's time to fight back and take back the power that they had from the world.

The CCP, after much fighting throughout the first half of the 20th century, finally took control of China in 1959, and the People Republic of China was born. (The old government, the Guomindang/Nationalist party, fled to Taiwan, where they still reside today. That's why you have such a huge split between Taiwan and Mainland China, and in mainland China, they still consider Taiwan part of China, while Taiwan says they're a separate nation. The U.S. helped the Nationalist party, not the CCP, during WWII, which is why the U.S. recognizes Taiwan as a separate nation, while other countries don't.)

Once Mao and the CCP established the PRC, they took a strong hold of the nation, but people were kind of just sick of the years and years of fighting before hand, that people started to have some hope of peace once the PRC took power. (It was roughly 60 - 70 years of fighting before there was peace in China once the Communist took control.) Mao was always fearful of losing his power, so he set up (and horribly tricked people) into be labeled "rightest" and sought to make sure these people were either sent to labor camps for "re-education" or just flat out silenced. (Anti-Righestmovent: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Rightist_Movement)

There are many more reasons, but that's a general overview on why you see a lot of the "commie" bullshit today, and why it isn't real democratic communism, but oppressive regimes ruling over people. It's a sad story, because at first in China, the May Fourth Movement was really promising to bring peace and democracy to people in China, but in the end, a strong ruling government took control, and it hurts many people.

To quickly cover over Tibet, Mao and the PRC considered Tibet part of the "China Family" but the people in Tibet didn't. Tibet was a very peaceful nation, a majority of it religious, and they couldn't really do anything about the PRC takeover in Tibet. Sadly, the PRC just marched in and took it, and the people of Tibet couldn't do much. There was an Tibetan uprising in 1959, but the PLA (People's Liberation Army, who were under the PRC control) was really strong and notorious for its power, and quickly shut down the uprising. :sad:


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: r72rock]
    #19094964 - 11/06/13 11:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the gloss. I don't think anyone mistook China's Communism for real Demoocratic Communism.

In fact, hahahahahahahhahahahahaha, had a good laugh over that.


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Re: If have any question about chinese mysterious culture [Re: eve69]
    #19094999 - 11/06/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Thanks for the gloss. I don't think anyone mistook China's Communism for real Demoocratic Communism.

In fact, hahahahahahahhahahahahaha, had a good laugh over that.




I'm glad you enjoyed it, I wasn't trying to clear that up really. :lol: I was more trying to show why they choose communism. The PEOPLE were behind it because it promised Democracy. The CCP was behind it because it gave them power.

I felt like I should've cleared this up.

At the beginning of the 20th century, China was still very much rickshaws, primitive farming techniques, Confucian values, and women with bound feet. They were exploited by much of the world, including Japan.

Here was little brother Japan, bullying big brother China along with the rest of the world. China felt helpless. They helped the Allies in World War 1, only to be excluded from any of the terms of the Versailles Treaty -- the Chinese were PISSED, and they felt hung out to dry.

They realized that they needed to modernize, FAST, to catch up with the world; yet, they didn't want to be like those greedy westerns.

Then, after World War I (A while after) the USSR was formed, and they had a different way of thinking about the world. This was very promising to China. The USSR even promised to give back some land that it took from China some years ago (They never did, but they promised. :lol:) and the Chinese thought like, "Wow. Maybe we don't have to be horrible people to be modern." The USSR very much served as a model for the CCP and a model for people in China to look up to. Communism promised a voice for people, equality for all genders and classes, and it didn't have all of these old values and mystical mumbo jumbo. People were desperate for it. Here was a fourth of the world's population, being pushed over by the rest of the world, and these people have NO say in their lives. Communism was promising, very promising.


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