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OfflineSailorhailee
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Scariest 'DMT' trip ever
    #19078285 - 11/03/13 01:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My boyfriend and his friend bought some 'DMT' off a friend of a friend
His friend had some of it 2 nights ago when I wasn't home and apparently was going blue and foaming at the mouth, his trip lasted 1 hour before he was okay again. The DMT was in a herb form and we got 2 points.
Despite this I decided to try it last night and we filmed the start of it before it got too intense. I remember taking the first hit from the bong, it was filled 3/4 quarters 'DMT' and one quarter tobacco.
I do not remember taking my second hit as everything had gone black, I do not remember anything after this.
On the video I am opening my eyes as wide as I can along with my mouth in shock. My body is convulsing and I fall from the lounge to floor throwing my arms and legs around screaming things like 'what the fuck'
'fuck me' 'who wants to fuck' ???
My boyfriend places a pillow under my head as I am throwing my self around too much. The camera now is off.
My boyfriend says this is when the trip gets even worse and I am screaming as loud as I can 'get away from me'.
I remember waking up and looking around and having no idea where I was or who I was. I hear my boyfriend saying my name and my brain goes crazy because I have a feeling that I am supposed to know who I am but I don't so I am screaming in a frenzy, my eyes are closed and I remember all that as a dream.
It took me so long to understand what was going on and I was trying to piece together the puzzles and came to realise I had smoked 'DMT'
I still did not feel okay for the rest of the night and my trip lasted at least 45 minutes.
Has this happened to anyone else or can anyone tell me if this is actually "DMT" or not?


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Re: Scariest 'DMT' trip ever [Re: Sailorhailee]
    #19078416 - 11/03/13 01:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Convulsions, involuntary flailing, strange vocalizations, and psychological trauma? Those would be the symptoms of a 5-MeO-DMT overdose, but it may have been something else. If it was 5-MeO-DMT, using "DMT" as shorthand for this substance is really, really irresponsible.

Next time, confirm the identity of the substance, please, before you ingest it.


Edited by Terratic (11/03/13 01:08 AM)


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Re: Scariest 'DMT' trip ever [Re: Terratic]
    #19078597 - 11/03/13 01:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the response, never will make that mistake again still don't feel 100% ok. Is there any other possible drug it could be having trouble finding people that have had similar experiences.


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Re: Scariest 'DMT' trip ever [Re: Sailorhailee]
    #19078661 - 11/03/13 02:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hi im the friend that had it two days before her and as she was saying i was apparantly convulsing and frothing from the mouth and speaking a different language/tounges but the wierd strange thing is my symptoms seemed to be abit more extreme but i remember most of it. I dont remember obviously convulsing frothing etc but in the time of that before i came to a conscious state where i was responding to my friends it was like i was dead and i was stuck in nothingness and almost what i would percieve as "hell" where i witnessed the people around me ageing to the point where they died but after they died i could still hear their thoughts and feel their thoughts , then i was just stuck there for awhile then it was like i shifted out of that into this perfect pure happy state of inner peace and it was what i would percieve as "heaven", It was memories / flash backs / all sorts of kind of things but it was pure harmony. Then i woke up kind of thing and i could sort of hear/see my friends in the room but i had no recollection of who they were and i thought i was in public and stoned out of my mind and i was fully wigging out they were looking at me thinking that they knew i was baked asking if i was alright ( i felt like i was greening out of weed ). Then i drifted back into a perfect happy dream like state then i rewoke but this time i knew who they were and i saw the bong and just thought i was super baked just heaps nod going in and out. Once again i sunk into the dream like state and inbetween that and waking it was like i was out of my body out of earth falling back into earth and then i rewoke and thats when all the trippy visuals started like vibrant colours etc and it was just a repeated cycle of going into dreams then into falling closer to my body into reality back into dreams to the point where i was fully aware and starting to get back to normal and i was 100% unaware that i had been frothing from the mouth + convulsing etc.

i had about 80-100 mg of the stuff + tarred tobacco on top and She had about 50-60 mg with tobacco. I am unsure if i was having them physical effects due to the trauma of how terrible and crazy my "hell" experiance was or if i was infact having an overdose because i remember most of it (im sure i forgot ALOT of it but you understand). I also had a very prepared and well educated mindset on going into it as i have done years of research on it rather then she had little next to no self research on this and i feel this could be a subconscious thing where i didnt block out what i saw because deep down i knew i was under the influence of the dmt where as she could potentially have forgotten and been 100% purely scared and blocked out what she saw

edit: i feel no negative effects or paranoia and feel 100% back to normal (apart from just having the most hectic spiritual journey of my life)

also there was much more which happened but i am unable to explain what i experienced


Edited by Bonezy (11/03/13 02:12 AM)


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Re: Scariest 'DMT' trip ever [Re: Sailorhailee]
    #19078675 - 11/03/13 02:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Or if it was in herb form it was probly just changa with some maoi's in it.  That could certainly account for the long trip as well.  One thing I gotta say is tobacco smokes really really hot, and burning dmt that hot when it vaporizes max 160 C you might've converted it into dmt-oxide?  Just a thought.
But I will say this DMT is not really a popular street drug for a reason.  Even with elrich reagents without certain equipment I'm pretty sure its hard to tell those sort of indoles apart .  To me it doesn't make much sense buying it. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Scariest 'DMT' trip ever [Re: Sailorhailee]
    #19078684 - 11/03/13 02:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

In addition to the effects you experienced, the person had also (perhaps mistakenly) said it was DMT, so there's a pretty good chance it was 5-MeO-DMT.  It's a common mistake, and after reading Bonezy's post, it seems quite probable.

At 50-60 mg, DMT wouldn't cause such physical effects. I can't even chalk that up to the "body chemistry" of the individual, since you all experienced these symptoms. Even with an MAOI, that isn't a normal reaction. Convulsions, screaming, the polarized "hell and bliss" pairing—it sounds like 5-MeO-DMT, and very much so. Smoked, the experience lasts about 30 minutes; the very high dose may account for the longer duration.


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Re: Scariest 'DMT' trip ever [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19078705 - 11/03/13 02:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

TheGreenArrow said:
But I will say this DMT is not really a popular street drug for a reason.  Even with elrich reagents without certain equipment I'm pretty sure its hard to tell those sort of indoles apart .  To me it doesn't make much sense buying it. :cookiemonster:




No, the physical properties are quite distinct, apart from the dramatic differences in potency: basified DMT melts at a lower temperature. Not only that, but extracted DMT tends to retain a floral, mothball-like scent.


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Re: Scariest 'DMT' trip ever [Re: Terratic]
    #19078730 - 11/03/13 03:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I agree with terratic, and frothing and going blue?! that's not a good symptom... I have never heard of anything like this from dmt!


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Re: Scariest 'DMT' trip ever [Re: Sailorhailee]
    #19079236 - 11/03/13 08:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You guys smoked 5-meo-dmt I believe. From what I read it can cause convulsions and such. I have never heard of n,n dmt doing such a thing. The frothing is a bit weird. 5-meo is more of a feeling and it isn't visual really. N,n dmt is completely visual and rationality is still there. Did your friends smoke it as well, and what did they experience? Maybe (probably) whoever cooked it was a dipshit.


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Re: Scariest 'DMT' trip ever [Re: mindgnome]
    #19082567 - 11/03/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Another vote for 5-Meo-DMT. The effective dose is much lower than for DMT and the effects from overdosing are much more negative and dangerous. Three-quarters of a bong loaded with it would probably be an overdose.


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Re: Scariest 'DMT' trip ever [Re: Sailorhailee]
    #21010990 - 12/22/14 05:02 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Was that caused by interaction with tobacco? Psychedelics shouldn't be combined with some substances as they may cause damage.


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Re: Scariest 'DMT' trip ever [Re: Sailorhailee]
    #21011019 - 12/22/14 05:35 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Scariest 'DMT' trip ever [Re: s240779]
    #21011174 - 12/22/14 07:18 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Possibly salvia? High extract?


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Re: Scariest 'DMT' trip ever [Re: Terratic]
    #21012821 - 12/22/14 03:56 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Old thread but thought I'd chime in with my 2 cents...




Quote:

Terratic said:
Convulsions, involuntary flailing, strange vocalizations, and psychological trauma? Those would be the symptoms of a 5-MeO-DMT overdose, but it may have been something else.....






I've experienced convulsions, involuntary flailing of my arms & legs, rolling my body around uncontrollably, and glossolalia/gibberish vocalizations from nn-dmt ....I have witnessed this happen to another and I've also heard a few similar stories of this happening to folks over the years. So these sorts of things can indeed happen with nn-dmt .




If I had to take a guess at what happened, probably just too much too quickly :shrug: . The time it happened to me was with 50mg to 60mg off a dab nail, I took it all in one single inhalation and don't really remember exhaling . It was more or less an instant black out, then when I was starting to become somewhat coherent again I realized my body was rolling/flailing around and I could hear all sorts of noises & vocalizations pouring out of my mouth (I still felt rather distant from my body at this point, and was back down very quickly after I noticed what was happening).

When I witnessed this happen to another...Same thing, the stuff was taken off a dab nail all in one inhalation...seconds later the dude was full on flailing/kicking his legs & arms about every where, rolling around all over the ground, screaming & hollering, crying, laughing...the whole thing went on for 15 to 20 minutes then he quickly came out of it and was wondering why he was laying on the ground with no recollection of what had just happened (at least at that time).



Perhaps not a common occurrence, but it seems to happen :shrug: .






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