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Anonymous #1

Do you believe that animals should be kept in captivity
    #19077992 - 11/03/13 12:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Only in very specific cases do I believe it is acceptable. For example, if a species is near extinction and needs to be rehabilitated to survive then I believe it is acceptable. At the same time though, the extinction that we are trying to prevent is often caused by humans in the first place. In terms of zoos and parks like SeaWorld, I view it as disgusting and barbaric. We tend to view all other species as infinitely inferior and worthless. Having animals live in tanks and cages for their entire lives is just wrong in my opinion. It's a barbaric form of entertainment, not too different from the gladiatorial fights in the Coliseum in my opinion.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Do you believe that animals should be kept in captivity [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19078013 - 11/03/13 12:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #3

Re: Do you believe that animals should be kept in captivity [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19078303 - 11/03/13 01:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #1 said:
Only in very specific cases do I believe it is acceptable. For example, if a species is near extinction and needs to be rehabilitated to survive then I believe it is acceptable. At the same time though, the extinction that we are trying to prevent is often caused by humans in the first place. In terms of zoos and parks like SeaWorld, I view it as disgusting and barbaric. We tend to view all other species as infinitely inferior and worthless. Having animals live in tanks and cages for their entire lives is just wrong in my opinion. It's a barbaric form of entertainment, not too different from the gladiatorial fights in the Coliseum in my opinion.




No if it's for entertainment. Especially not for entertainment.

You should really watch this video:



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Anonymous #4

Re: Do you believe that animals should be kept in captivity [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19078421 - 11/03/13 01:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

How do you feel about pets that are considered like family members (yet have no freedom to leave unless they bolt)?


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Anonymous #3

Re: Do you believe that animals should be kept in captivity [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #19078590 - 11/03/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #4 said:
How do you feel about pets that are considered like family members (yet have no freedom to leave unless they bolt)?




Conventional pets that have been bred to be domesticated are probably the only exception. The reason is because they have been domesticated for so long, that surviving in nature would be quite difficult for them. And if somehow they are released into the wild, they will breed generation after generation, until it is practically out of control. They will disrupt the ecosystem, and when the population of these animals get larger and larger, they are more prone to attack human beings in civilization.

Again, it also largely depends on the environment and the type of breed you have. It is not right to keep a Siberian Husky if you live in Las Vegas or Phoenix. It is not right to keep a hyperactive German Shepherd in a small studio apartment when you are gone 10 hours each day for work. You need to have a pet that is comfortable fitting in your household and the location that you live in.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Do you believe that animals should be kept in captivity [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19080007 - 11/03/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think what we should do is genetically alter popular animals and make them all no larger than 2ft tall, so that people can have those as pets, and we can release the full sized ones back into the wild.

It would be kind of like pokemon, but with animals from this world. And they wouldn't be given superpowers so people would be less inclined to battle them. They could make them per order to prevent giraffemills and monkeymills from forming, and ownership of these novelty animals would probably cutback on poaching efforts as well.

IMO this is the best scenario for all parties involved. I would get a miniature rhino.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Do you believe that animals should be kept in captivity [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #19080035 - 11/03/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

As long as your mini rhino still has horns, somebody out there is going to try to make boner medicine out of it.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Do you believe that animals should be kept in captivity [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #19080133 - 11/03/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Why would they take the risk if they could order them in bulk at discounted prices? And if this tech was perfected the corporation behind it could just grow rhino horns out of stem cells and flood the market.


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Anonymous #6

Re: Do you believe that animals should be kept in captivity [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #19080828 - 11/03/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #3 said:
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Anonymous #1 said:
Only in very specific cases do I believe it is acceptable. For example, if a species is near extinction and needs to be rehabilitated to survive then I believe it is acceptable. At the same time though, the extinction that we are trying to prevent is often caused by humans in the first place. In terms of zoos and parks like SeaWorld, I view it as disgusting and barbaric. We tend to view all other species as infinitely inferior and worthless. Having animals live in tanks and cages for their entire lives is just wrong in my opinion. It's a barbaric form of entertainment, not too different from the gladiatorial fights in the Coliseum in my opinion.




No if it's for entertainment. Especially not for entertainment.

You should really watch this video:







that's a small clip from a documentary called "earthlings" i believe.  It was a really sad, but eye opening documentary.  They have a new one coming out soon called unity, i believe


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Anonymous #3

Re: Do you believe that animals should be kept in captivity [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #19083426 - 11/03/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #5 said:
They could make them per order to prevent giraffemills and monkeymills from forming




How do you prevent any kind of mill from forming? If there is a way to profit off a business, you can rest assured that somebody will seek out to make a profit from it.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Do you believe that animals should be kept in captivity [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #19084783 - 11/04/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #3 said:
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Anonymous #5 said:
They could make them per order to prevent giraffemills and monkeymills from forming




How do you prevent any kind of mill from forming? If there is a way to profit off a business, you can rest assured that somebody will seek out to make a profit from it.




If they're genetically engineered on such an advanced level already, they could just make the animals asexual and make them to order. Problem solved. It would take at least a couple decades of research for the less scrupulous to copy the animals code and reproduce them successfully, and in that time the original, more ethical firm would have a firm grasp on the market, as well as giving legislators time to regulate the industry.

This would also devastate the puppymill market because who wants a dog when you can have an elephant, or a hippo, or a tiny sloth?


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Anonymous #7

Re: Do you believe that animals should be kept in captivity [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #19086343 - 11/04/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yes I believe it is OK to keep animals in cages and captivity

I like my bacon and eggs





and milk



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Anonymous #8

Re: Do you believe that animals should be kept in captivity [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19086989 - 11/04/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Only in very specific cases do I believe it is acceptable. For example, if a species is near extinction and needs to be rehabilitated to survive then I believe it is acceptable. At the same time though, the extinction that we are trying to prevent is often caused by humans in the first place. In terms of zoos and parks like SeaWorld, I view it as disgusting and barbaric. We tend to view all other species as infinitely inferior and worthless. Having animals live in tanks and cages for their entire lives is just wrong in my opinion. It's a barbaric form of entertainment, not too different from the gladiatorial fights in the Coliseum in my opinion.




:awethumb:  Same here, bro.


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