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Re: The Answers are Not Within [Re: LysergicX7]
#19082104 - 11/03/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Has there ever been a moment in your life when someone outside of you believed in you more than you believed in yourself and they turned out to be right? What the hell would we do without those people? It's as if other people are capable of knowing who we are better than we know ourselves.
Not that I recall.
I have a hard time believing someone else knows me better than I know myself. I've had a lot more experience and time to observe. 
I've had people point things out to me about myself that I had no idea I did. I'm sure this is an extremely common experience.
That has very little to nothing to do with someone else knowing you better than you know yourself.
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Re: The Answers are Not Within [Re: eve69]
#19082251 - 11/03/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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eve69 said: Then there was the girl who liked to be 'double fucked' she called it. She called it that because if your cock went into the cervix it was like entering another hole.
I don't think that's very healthy...
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"The application of awareness to mental states is a precision operation. This is particularly true of feeling or sensation. It is very easy to overreach the sensation. That is, to add something to it above and beyond what is really there. It is equally easy to fall short of sensation, to get part of it but not all. The ideal that you are striving for is to experience each mental state fully, exactly the way it is, adding nothing to it and not missing any part of it."
"let us use pain in the leg as an example. What is actually there is a pure, flowing sensation. It changes constantly, never the same from one moment to the next. It moves from one location to another, and its intensity surges up and down. Pain is not a thing. It is an event. There should be no concepts tacked on to it and none associated with it. A pure unobstructed awareness of this event will experience it simply as a flowing pattern of energy and nothing more. No thought and no rejection. Just energy."
"For most of us, we have earned high marks in school and in life for our ability to manipulate mental phenomena, or concepts, logically. Our careers, much of our success in everyday life, our happy relationships, we view as largely the result of our successful manipulation of concepts. In developing mindfulness, however, we temporarily suspend the conceptualization process and focus on the pure nature of mental phenomena. During meditation we are seeking to experience the mind at the preconceptual level."
But the human mind conceptualizes such occurrences as pain. You find yourself thinking of it as "the pain." That is a concept. It is a label, something added to the sensation itself. You find yourself building a mental image, a picture of the pain, seeing it as a shape.
"those concepts are tacked on to the living reality." Most likely you will probably find yourself thinking: "I have a pain in my leg. "I" is a concept. It is something extra added to the pure experience.
When you introduce "I" into the process, you are building a conceptual gap between the reality and the awareness viewing that reality.
The general idea, however, is almost too simple. You want to really see each sensation, whether it is pain, bliss, or boredom. You want to experience that thing fully in its natural unadulterated form.
The human mind seeks to conceptualize phenomena, and it has developed a host of clever ways to do so. Every simple sensation will trigger a burst of conceptual thinking if you give the mind its way.
What happens to the original sensation, the pure experience? It gets lost in the shuffle, completely overwhelmed and forgotten. We miss reality. We enter a world of fantasy."
Mindfulness by Bhante Henepola Gunaratana
"Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery; None but ourselves can free our minds." - Bob Marley
The Head and the Heart - Lost In My Mind:
"momma once told me, you're already home when you feel love."
Edited by Sse (11/04/13 09:00 AM)
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Re: The Answers are Not Within [Re: Sse]
#19084734 - 11/04/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Choosing stones... Big enough to drag me down Where I am... People's voice's make hollow sounds Just be quiet... They'll go away Open up your eyes... Don't let your mind tell the story here Open up your eyes... Just let me go It's so safe... It's so safe floating in the glass While above... While above all your troubles pass Just be quiet... They'll go away Open up your eyes... Don't let your mind tell the story here Open up your eyes... Just let me... Open up your eyes... Don't let your mind tell the story here Open up your eyes... Just let me go, let me go, let me go Open up your eyes... Just let me go...
-------------------- "Springs of water welling from the fire" "Life may seem to flee in a moment, but when the mind is freed of the veil of ignorance, and illusion that comes between the mind and the truth, life and death are only opposite sides of the same coin - "water welling from the fire."
"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions." -Thich Nhat Hanh instant "Experience always goes beyond ideas"
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Re: The Answers are Not Within [Re: Sse] 1
#19084949 - 11/04/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dude, I would rather have your own psychotic thoughts than copypasting.
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eve69
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Re: The Answers are Not Within [Re: Sleepwalker]
#19084951 - 11/04/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sleepwalker said:
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eve69 said: Then there was the girl who liked to be 'double fucked' she called it. She called it that because if your cock went into the cervix it was like entering another hole.
I don't think that's very healthy... 
It just happens sometimes.
AFAIK it never killed anyone.
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Re: The Answers are Not Within [Re: eve69]
#19085220 - 11/04/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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sorry I no cater 
as far as i'm concerned it is self beneficial; maybe goes even further then that. If you have created a problem for yourself then i'm sorry... there is the ignore feature. I may have utilized it in the past but I prefer the embrace feature hehehe.
it seems anything original(ultimately unoriginal) I produce is going to fuel the fires of delusion; within myself.
I feel I am better off constantly establishing my sense of one-pointedness and then going about my day in equanimity; personal preference of course. Though everything is eventually grist for the mill.

there's some more psychosis for you :p along with the rest of the psychotic gibberish that I copy and paste. It's all created delusion.
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Re: The Answers are Not Within [Re: eve69]
#19085244 - 11/04/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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eve69 said: It just happens sometimes.
AFAIK it never killed anyone.
A little poke once in a while is normal. Actually aiming to get "double fucked" seems like it could lead to some complications.
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Re: The Answers are Not Within [Re: Sleepwalker]
#19085569 - 11/04/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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sex is very personal
I think the OPs point is listen to your partner
(while prying her legs open and fucking her like a barbarian) ...or something....
if it's double fucking she wants who the fuck am I to say no? (..if physically possible...in this case were talking porn star deep pussy)
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