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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: usulpsychonaut]
#19121968 - 11/11/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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usulpsychonaut said: Does it require higher education to make basic observations about reality?
There is no reality for you. Everything that you've said in this thread is based off TV and media depictions of men and women. Like William Shatner and all that BS about how men kiss their wives' asses all the time on TV and in movies that are intended to be comedies. None of your beliefs that you are basing this stuff on is supposed to be true. 
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Elitist intellectuals impose their strange superstitions on what they see as the lesser humans, clearly you state that I am a lower creature, cause I've never read an academic paper. This secular religion is just as annoying as traditional Islam.
You are a lower creature for attempting to talk about academic "eggheads" as if you've actually talked to them or about topics studied in academia as is you were some kind of authority on it.
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Crystal G]
#19135923 - 11/14/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I do not watch television, aside from my Fringe and Doctor Who DVDs. I've been thinking about the alpha/sexist thing. Feel pretty certain that Alpha's get away with sexism, it works for them. They know when to avoid inappropriate comments/behaviour, but if they want to they can be as sexy as they like with their sexism.
You make allot of assumptions about me. I don't even know me as well as you think you know me.
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: usulpsychonaut]
#19138786 - 11/14/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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usulpsychonaut said: I've been thinking about the alpha/sexist thing. Feel pretty certain that Alpha's get away with sexism, it works for them. They know when to avoid inappropriate comments/behaviour, but if they want to they can be as sexy as they like with their sexism.
You make allot of assumptions about me. I don't even know me as well as you think you know me.
Name a few examples that you think that alpha males get away with sexism. Personally, I don't think you have the faintest idea what sexism means.
And the main reason that women don't speak out against feminism (edit: I meant sexism) amongst groups of guys when they see it, is because they are afraid of being labeled "the bitch" or "stuck up and anal and butt-hurt" and outed in the entire crowd.
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Crystal G]
#19138991 - 11/14/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i feel like almost everyone cheats
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: lunarpiscean]
#19140405 - 11/15/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tell yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. I never have and never will.
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: lunarpiscean]
#19140928 - 11/15/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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lunarpiscean said: i feel like almost everyone cheats 
lol seiously. I will try my best not to cheat but I will never put myeslf above other who do cheat. Its kind of a close minded way to look at it
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: topdog82]
#19140964 - 11/15/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just dont be a douche and get your ass beat by telling them hahaha thats what they would say to you sir but a true friend would at least be like what are you doing. Just the married guy tho his bitch will take half his shit and part of his paycheck for a long time if shes smart.
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Anonymous #3]
#19141035 - 11/15/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: Just dont be a douche and get your ass beat by telling them hahaha thats what they would say to you sir but a true friend would at least be like what are you doing. Just the married guy tho his bitch will take half his shit and part of his paycheck for a long time if shes smart.
well thats not fair either
What if the wife was fuckin the plumber? or the husbands best friend? Or refusing to fuck her husband?
You really cant look at these situations so simply like that
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Crystal G]
#19141227 - 11/15/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Crystal G said:
Certainly, it is a chemical reaction, but these reactions cannot simply be stimulated by just about anybody.
So you agree that "love" is just a simple chemical reaction?
I agree that it can't be stimulated by anybody.
However, if somebody was able to stimulate your chemical reactions (or push your buttons the right way) you would be inclined to believe that you are "in love" with them.
There is nothing special about this idea called love.
It's all 1's and 0's and ultimately, NOTHING in the end.
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It's actually quite rare to find somebody you are PASSIONATELY in love with, as opposed to feeling secure because they are a dependable guy. Again, chemistry easily explains this.
Again, it's all button pushing.
If you were a piano, and he was a keyboardist that only knew how to play "The Celebrated Chop Waltz" -
You would stick with him until you found a guy that could play Rachmaninov! 
Let's play pretend for a little bit.
Pretend I created the "Perfect Mate MachineĀ®" that featured somebody you thought was sexually attractive and pushed all of your buttons the right way.
I think that you would eventually start to develop feelings for that person.
Now, if that machine could implant years of false memories of "passion" and "intimacy" - I think that you would believe that you are "in love" with that person.
We're nothing special.
As unique as we'd like to think we all are, our brains are just wires in a box.
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Mr. Material]
#19141278 - 11/15/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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And in what way would that NOT be love? You are describing the experience of love - someone who knows you intimately, and also the reverse, in such a way that you push each others buttons just the right way.
It's one thing to talk about this theoretical machine, but it simply doesn't exist. Everything we experience is "just a chemical reaction". I think you're seriously understating the issue and it's complexity.
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Mr. Material]
#19141289 - 11/15/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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For some reason when I tell people that I don't believe in love, or that love is just an idea - they think I'm some angry bitter person.
Nothing could be further from the truth!
My disbelief in "love" has been positive, even liberating.
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Mr. Material]
#19141298 - 11/15/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You completely missed my point. You're oversimplifying "love" to come to a conclusion that is disingenuous to actual experience of love.
I'm not saying you're bitter or anything of the sort, but you have committed some logical fallacies by making simplifying assumptions that do not hold true for the majority of people.
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: pwnasaurus]
#19141308 - 11/15/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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pwnasaurus said: And in what way would that NOT be love?
I'm not debating Crystal G - I'm just trying to explain my point of view.
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pwnasaurus said:
I think you're seriously understating the issue and it's complexity.
No, my example was simple; that is all.
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: pwnasaurus]
#19141339 - 11/15/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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pwnasaurus said: You completely missed my point. You're oversimplifying "love" to come to a conclusion that is disingenuous to actual experience of love.
I'm not saying you're bitter or anything of the sort, but you have committed some logical fallacies by making simplifying assumptions that do not hold true for the majority of people.
No.
I'm saying that love is just an idea, and nothing more.
I'm not saying that this idea is true or false, I simply do not believe in it.
My "assumptions that do not hold true for the majority of people" hold the same amount of "truth" as the rest of the world.
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Mr. Material]
#19141359 - 11/15/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Love is a fucking opinion!
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Mr. Material]
#19141464 - 11/15/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Love is an idea in the same way that pain is. That doesn't make it any less of an experience. All feelings are brought on by chemical reactions. Every thought we have is a chemical reaction.
That doesn't make the experience any less real. On the contrary, since we only experience reality through chemical reactions, that puts love on par with every other experience we have.
I do believe that love is treated like it's some kind of mystical thing that rarely happens, and that probably does more harm than good. I've been in love dozens of times.
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Enlil]
#19141613 - 11/15/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i feel like cheating in marriage is wrong.
BUT if you're not married, i'm pretty indifferent to it. everyone has desires. its not like youre killng somebody by doing it. shit happens man.
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: lunarpiscean]
#19143666 - 11/16/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Love is an idea in the same way that pain is. That doesn't make it any less of an experience. All feelings are brought on by chemical reactions. Every thought we have is a chemical reaction.
That doesn't make the experience any less real. On the contrary, since we only experience reality through chemical reactions, that puts love on par with every other experience we have.
Precisely. Love is as real as pain, fear, anger, or sadness. Of course it's a reaction in your brain, if your brain weren't reacting at all you would be DEAD.
On a side note, damn, what is up with us agreeing all of a sudden?
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lunarpiscean said: i feel like cheating in marriage is wrong.
BUT if you're not married, i'm pretty indifferent to it. everyone has desires. its not like youre killng somebody by doing it. shit happens man.
That's... interesting. So if somebody cheats with the stripper on their bachelor/bachelorette party the evening before the wedding, that's totally cool to you?
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Crystal G]
#19143679 - 11/16/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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hey. if it's in someone's nature to cheat and be a piece of shit, that just is what it is.
human nature is human nature. if a person decides to be with a cheater, they should know they're being cheated on way before their wedding day.
marriage is a really big commitiment and i think you can get sued for money if theres proof you've cheated thats why its wrong
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Re: Just Found out my friends cheat on their girlfriends and wives [Re: Enlil]
#19143689 - 11/16/13 12:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do people read posts anymore?
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Mr. Material said:
I'm saying that love is just an idea, and nothing more.
I'm not saying that this idea is true or false, (real or unreal) I simply do not believe in it.
I guess people like the sound of sucking their own dick!
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