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extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use
#19075486 - 11/02/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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hello i am looking for other users who could help me find a way to transport co2 from my monos or other growing chambers to my plant grow room.
here is my initial idea
in my grow room i would have a reservoir with a pump. the pump would send water thru a hose to my mushroom room. connected to each of my monos would be a suction hose that would draw off co2 from the bottom of the tub( the area most concentrated in co2. the suction tube would be connected to a venturi valve or aspirator of some sort(haven't began sourcing any parts yet). after the venturi the water carrying the air sucked in by the venturi would make its way back to the plant grow room. and be degassed by a degassing column, stripping the water of any co2 over ambient growroom concentration. the cycle would then continue
im sure i made some mistakes in writing this but if theres anyone that could help me with my idea it would be appreciated here is a diagram of my system. i intend to have many monotubs/growing chamber
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: oxana]
#19075542 - 11/02/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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your better of with bags of myc in the room and tjetes probly mote co2 at the top of your chamber thhen then the bottom as it rides heat currents putt off by your sub
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: cronicr]
#19075592 - 11/02/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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your gonna have to type that a little more clearly i cant understand what you just said
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: oxana]
#19075612 - 11/02/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol sorry on my phone, there are companys that sell bags of myc for such a thing and was just pointing out that the bottom doesnthave higher co2 levels as it rides up with heat currents
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: cronicr]
#19075699 - 11/02/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: cronicr]
#19075711 - 11/02/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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http://www.amazon.com/ExHale-Homegrown-your-indoor-plants/dp/B00546SAZC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
yeah for $30 lol. i can buy 30pounds of bottled co2 for that price. my goals for this would be to exaust co2 from my tubs while using that "free" co2 for use in my grow room.
ive always heard that co2 settled to bottom. thats why it is suggested to pack the holes on the top loose and the holes on the bottom tight.
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: oxana]
#19075720 - 11/02/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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if it did we would all be dead
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: oxana]
#19077053 - 11/02/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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oxana said: ive always heard that co2 settled to bottom
It doesn't. It mixes with the air. In most fruiting chambers the CO2 is higher near the top because that's where the air exhausts.
You won't get enough from your monotubs to do your plants much good unless you have a shit ton of monotubs. I'd suggest making up a bunch of substrate bags. I'm using nearly 100 in my grow room, and I can keep the CO2 level above 700 ppm most of the time. You'll want the substrate bags in a closet or other separate enclosure so you can shut off the CO2 to your plants during their dark cycle. RR
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: RogerRabbit]
#19077263 - 11/02/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said:
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oxana said: ive always heard that co2 settled to bottom
It doesn't. It mixes with the air. In most fruiting chambers the CO2 is higher near the top because that's where the air exhausts.
You won't get enough from your monotubs to do your plants much good unless you have a shit ton of monotubs. I'd suggest making up a bunch of substrate bags. I'm using nearly 100 in my grow room, and I can keep the CO2 level above 700 ppm most of the time. You'll want the substrate bags in a closet or other separate enclosure so you can shut off the CO2 to your plants during their dark cycle. RR
roger im doing a shit ton of monotubs, 75-100 at a time.. thats why i want to tap into this if i can, why pay Airgas when i can use existing resources.
i actually have a plan b if you could take a look RR. it involves using trays instead of monos
Edited by oxana (11/02/13 09:38 PM)
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: oxana]
#19077278 - 11/02/13 09:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i missed something in my diagram the intake will have a nozzle that will release fine mist from a low output nozzle at 120psi. at set timer intervals
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: oxana]
#19078638 - 11/03/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The exhaust should be on top, co2 rises.
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: RogerRabbit]
#19079005 - 11/03/13 06:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: The exhaust should be on top, co2 rises.
nope it homogonizes with the other gases
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RogerRabbit said: It doesn't. It mixes with the air. In most fruiting chambers the CO2 is higher near the top because that's where the air exhausts.
You won't get enough from your monotubs to do your plants much good unless you have a shit ton of monotubs. I'd suggest making up a bunch of substrate bags. I'm using nearly 100 in my grow room, and I can keep the CO2 level above 700 ppm most of the time. You'll want the substrate bags in a closet or other separate enclosure so you can shut off the CO2 to your plants during their dark cycle. RR
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: oxana]
#19079015 - 11/03/13 06:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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not to quote roger rabbit, but this IS simple chemistry,
otherwise the co2 in OUR enviorment would layer and float into the upper attmosphere, on calm days. and we wouldnt breath a solution of
Nitrogen (N2) 780,840 ppm Oxygen (O2) 209,460 ppm Argon (Ar) 9,340 ppm Carbon dioxide (CO2) 397 ppm Neon (Ne) 18.18 ppm Helium (He) 5.24 ppm Methane (CH4) 1.79 ppm
. the only reason i had thought that it was highest at the bottom right on top of the substrate was because thats where its being released from, plus some of you stoners brainwashed me
Edited by oxana (11/03/13 06:57 AM)
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: oxana]
#19079017 - 11/03/13 06:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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oxana said:
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Notahacker420 said: The exhaust should be on top, co2 rises.
nope it homogonizes with the other gases
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RogerRabbit said: It doesn't. It mixes with the air. In most fruiting chambers the CO2 is higher near the top because that's where the air exhausts.
You won't get enough from your monotubs to do your plants much good unless you have a shit ton of monotubs. I'd suggest making up a bunch of substrate bags. I'm using nearly 100 in my grow room, and I can keep the CO2 level above 700 ppm most of the time. You'll want the substrate bags in a closet or other separate enclosure so you can shut off the CO2 to your plants during their dark cycle. RR
You contradicted yourself with that quote
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: Stromrider]
#19079026 - 11/03/13 06:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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explain
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: oxana]
#19079031 - 11/03/13 07:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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We all know co2 mixes with air (including hacker) He was saying you should be pulling the co2 out of the top because it rises. Not because the co2 itself rises but because the warm air in the fc rises. The RR quote also states that
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: oxana]
#19079037 - 11/03/13 07:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i did not contradit myself
It doesn't. It mixes with the air. In most fruiting chambers the CO2 is higher near the top because that's where the air exhausts.
as it says co2 mixes with air, and
ok that does make sense RR made a boo boo
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: oxana]
#19079049 - 11/03/13 07:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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alright im just gonna give this one up and grow some mushrooms, ill let you know how it goes
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: oxana]
#19079078 - 11/03/13 07:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That sounds like a great plan.
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Re: extracting co2 from mono tubs for plant use [Re: oxana]
#19079121 - 11/03/13 07:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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oxana said: i did not contradit myself
It doesn't. It mixes with the air. In most fruiting chambers the CO2 is higher near the top because that's where the air exhausts.
Yes, it mixes with the air, which is rising....there is more co2 at the top because heat and humidity both rise, pulling the co2 laden air with it.
So in this instance, co2 does rise to the top of the chamber, not because that is where the exhaust is, but because it just rises.
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